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[Pasquale1234]

Jasmine96 wrote...

Dejajeva wrote...

I don't know that "kumbaya" is really a good tune for belly dancing, but I'm in.

it is if we do it in slow motion with tassels, lots of tassels

Broodmother cosplay FTW.

[LolaLei]

Pasquale1234 wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

Dejajeva wrote...

I don't know that "kumbaya" is really a good tune for belly dancing, but I'm in.

it is if we do it in slow motion with tassels, lots of tassels

Broodmother cosplay FTW.

Dressed like that they'd have to give us Cullen! ... If only to make us stop LOL!

[berelinde]

I'm taking comfort in the fact that there is no possible way Cullen could have died during DA2. He survives, no matter what. Also consider the fact that his story is woven through both previous games. Sure, it's possible that BioWare would have created an interesting, charismatic, drop-dead gorgeous character with obvious relevance to the plot and that they would somehow fail to include him in the third game, but it would be a wasted opportunity of epic proportions.

[PsychoBlonde]

LolaLei wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

I'd prefer not seeing Cullen as a companion since I've had personal hatred for him since the Broken Circle quest in Origins. Trying to trick Wynne into turn on me with his misleading dialogue.

Bastard....

Actually, I think this is yet another reason why he'd make an *interesting* companion.  He has a complex personality and history that ties into a lot of previous events with a lot of room for options.  Where else are you going to find a character that is:

A. Already known to the players of the previous games
B. Had a crush on FemaleMageWarden
C. Was tortured by blood mages, then Rescued, possibly by MageWarden
D.  Met and interacted with Hawke during all the craziness in Kirkwall
E.  Watched Meredith gradually go bat**** insane

If you are one of the people who has an interest in the whole mage/templar conflict, Cullen would be a wonderful person to sit down with over a beer and seriously debate the merits of various points of view, 'cause he has personal experience with just about every damn crazy thing that can happen.  He's also someone who could be seriously conflicted over the issue without the source of that conflict being an *informed* trait.

Also, as a potential love interest his romance arc would be interesting since he'd likely be doing battle with his heart and his head, trying to stay strong with his Templar beliefs yet desperately wanting to be part of a physical intimate relationship, something his character seems to have little to no experience in... And if you character happens to be a Mage, then that's adding more drama to the mix. What's not to like!

... Also, he's hot!

Also, they could use Cullen as a starting point to go more in-depth on the whole Lyrium Addiction angle, 'cause he's probably getting to the point where it's starting to affect him negatively.

[Melca36]

Jasmine96 wrote...

 So I think anders was brought back partly because of fan demand right? So speaking hypothetically if a certain group of people possibly wanted a companion to come back how would they help persuade Bioware to use them? I imagine there's no secret ritual or something lol. So do they just comment on the forums or what? Just out of curiosity

Um.....the fans don't have that sort of control.

if you replay the Origins Expansion....it was sort of obvious.

[the_one_54321]

Melca36 wrote...
if you replay the Origins Expansion....it was sort of obvious.

That's funny, after I played the Origins expansion, Anders was dead. <_<

[LolaLei]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...
if you replay the Origins Expansion....it was sort of obvious.

That's funny, after I played the Origins expansion, Anders was dead. <_<

LOL!

[LolaLei]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

I'd prefer not seeing Cullen as a companion since I've had personal hatred for him since the Broken Circle quest in Origins. Trying to trick Wynne into turn on me with his misleading dialogue.

Bastard....

Actually, I think this is yet another reason why he'd make an *interesting* companion.  He has a complex personality and history that ties into a lot of previous events with a lot of room for options.  Where else are you going to find a character that is:

A. Already known to the players of the previous games
B. Had a crush on FemaleMageWarden
C. Was tortured by blood mages, then Rescued, possibly by MageWarden
D.  Met and interacted with Hawke during all the craziness in Kirkwall
E.  Watched Meredith gradually go bat**** insane

If you are one of the people who has an interest in the whole mage/templar conflict, Cullen would be a wonderful person to sit down with over a beer and seriously debate the merits of various points of view, 'cause he has personal experience with just about every damn crazy thing that can happen.  He's also someone who could be seriously conflicted over the issue without the source of that conflict being an *informed* trait.

Also, as a potential love interest his romance arc would be interesting since he'd likely be doing battle with his heart and his head, trying to stay strong with his Templar beliefs yet desperately wanting to be part of a physical intimate relationship, something his character seems to have little to no experience in... And if you character happens to be a Mage, then that's adding more drama to the mix. What's not to like!

... Also, he's hot!

Also, they could use Cullen as a starting point to go more in-depth on the whole Lyrium Addiction angle, 'cause he's probably getting to the point where it's starting to affect him negatively.

There's a thought! I'm curious to find out what more about the whole lyrium addiction thing. I remember that old Templar guy in DA:O that had started to lose his mind... Aw, I'd hate to see Cullen go the same way, though it would be a really interesting development! I wonder if lyrium withdrawl is kinda like coming down off something like heroin?

[brushyourteeth]

I'm still confused about how Templars get their abilities in the first place. They basically use magic against magic.

I know they drink lyrium, but it's still debatable whether that does the trick or if it's just a convenient means of Chantry control. Whether it is the lyrium or not, does that mean that any average joe with enough discipline (and maybe enough lyrium) can learn some forms of magic, even if it's just Chantry-approved spell disruption? If you're a warrior in the game, you can master the Templar abilities without ever guzzling a single potion. So is everybody born quasi-magical (even dwarves like Sandal)?

I'd like an explanation for that, please, Particularly from Cullen's sexy mouth.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 18 avril 2012 - 05:47 .

[brushyourteeth]

And I agree, ^ LolaLei - Bioware loves giving us troubled, falling-apart romances. So be it -- give me a lyrium withdrawn Cullen who questions his faith in the Chantry leadership!

[The Elder King]

brushyourteeth wrote...

I'm still confused about how Templars get their abilities in the first place. They basically use magic against magic.

I know they drink lyrium, but it's still debatable whether that does the trick or if it's just a convenient means of Chantry control. Whether it is the lyrium or not, does that mean that any average joe with enough discipline (and maybe enough lyrium) can learn some forms of magic, even if it's just Chantry-approved spell disruption? If you're a warrior in the game, you can master the Templar abilities without ever guzzling a single potion. So is everybody born quasi-magical (even dwarves like Sandal)?

I'd like an explanation for that, please, Particularly from Cullen's sexy mouth.

Alistair said that probably lyrium isn't needed to use Templar ability. Lyrium makes their abilities more effective.
Though I agree that an explanation of the Templar's abilities are needed. And why it affects only mages (though in-game the Templars skills work, even if not with full effect, on non-mages too).

[The Elder King]

brushyourteeth wrote...

And I agree, ^ LolaLei - Bioware loves giving us troubled, falling-apart romances. So be it -- give me a lyrium withdrawn Cullen who questions his faith in the Chantry leadership!

He could have left already the Chantry, from what we know. The majority of the Templars left it. In this case he'd already questioned hisfaith in the Chantry's leadership (though I think not for the reason you wanted).

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

I'm still confused about how Templars get their abilities in the first place. They basically use magic against magic.

I know they drink lyrium, but it's still debatable whether that does the trick or if it's just a convenient means of Chantry control. Whether it is the lyrium or not, does that mean that any average joe with enough discipline (and maybe enough lyrium) can learn some forms of magic, even if it's just Chantry-approved spell disruption? If you're a warrior in the game, you can master the Templar abilities without ever guzzling a single potion. So is everybody born quasi-magical (even dwarves like Sandal)?

I'd like an explanation for that, please, Particularly from Cullen's sexy mouth.

It just increases the effectiveness of their Templar skills, I suspect the Chantry use it as a means to control them... which makes me wonder what the Templars are gonna do now that they've broken away from the Chantry since it's the Chantry who control the Lyrium trade with the Dwarfs.

[LolaLei]

hhh89 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

And I agree, ^ LolaLei - Bioware loves giving us troubled, falling-apart romances. So be it -- give me a lyrium withdrawn Cullen who questions his faith in the Chantry leadership!

He could have left already the Chantry, from what we know. The majority of the Templars left it. In this case he'd already questioned hisfaith in the Chantry's leadership (though I think not for the reason you wanted).

It'll be interesting to see how they'll bring him back and in what capacity. If he does become a companion/LI what would drive him to join up with a bunch of random misfits?

[Dejajeva]

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NOVEL ASUNDER


Okay.

Actually come to think about it, this may not be a actual spoiler, because I just checked the wiki and this is listed in the description, but whatever. And I'm still unclear about how much this may or may not effect DA3 since it is a novel and not necessarily canon.  But I'm taking it as canon  because Mr. Gaider wrote it and he's the head writer, so it all comes from his brain anyway.

After the events in Kirkwall, the conclusion of Asunder is that both the Templar order (including the seekers, obviously) and the Cirlce both split completely from the Chantry. So Cullen could have a lot of paths he could have taken. He could be still in the order as Templar, or he could be a rogue Templar- I'm not sure if Lord Seeker Lambert considers Templars who don't agree with him anymore criminals or what. Or he could have sided with the Chantry? I think there's a lot of interesting options for him considering the book. Even if we're not considering the book, it can stil get pretty interesting. Especially since Cassandra is a seeker, even though she was seen with Leliana and she is definately not a seeker, unless she's spying.

ETA: Hahaha, I'm late to the party. That's what I get for not reading everything that close.

Modifié par Dejajeva, 18 avril 2012 - 07:28 .

[Jessihatt]

I'd love Cullen as a companion and LI.
He'd be a great one and it'd be especially interesting after the events of Asunder.
But I think we'll get a Seeker companion, so maybe we won't get a Templar.

We can dream!

[Arppis]

I just hope he remains dead.

[brushyourteeth]

Dejajeva wrote...

Even if we're not considering the book, it can stil get pretty interesting. Especially since Cassandra is a seeker, even though she was seen with Leliana and she is definately not a seeker, unless she's spying.

Who's definitely not a seeker, Leliana? She's a personal friend of the Divine from waaay back, so she'll stay loyal to Justinia even if everyone else splits.

Though apostate Templars will make for an interesting story dynamic. Can't imagine more than half of them will stick with Lambert (who wasn't really involved with the Order until recently anyway). Seems like bunches of them hate the Templar line on mage brutality, but stay because they feel like they're serving the Maker or just want a job. There could be a civil war just within the Templars themselves, nevermind what those pesky mages are up to.

[Dejajeva]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Dejajeva wrote...

Even if we're not considering the book, it can stil get pretty interesting. Especially since Cassandra is a seeker, even though she was seen with Leliana and she is definately not a seeker, unless she's spying.

Who's definitely not a seeker, Leliana? She's a personal friend of the Divine from waaay back, so she'll stay loyal to Justinia even if everyone else splits.

Though apostate Templars will make for an interesting story dynamic. Can't imagine more than half of them will stick with Lambert (who wasn't really involved with the Order until recently anyway). Seems like bunches of them hate the Templar line on mage brutality, but stay because they feel like they're serving the Maker or just want a job. There could be a civil war just within the Templars themselves, nevermind what those pesky mages are up to.

I don't see Leliana being a seeker, but that sort of depends on Cassandra being with Lambert or being a "rogue" outfit that still supports Justinia.  If the seekers have split from the Chantry, and Cassandra is "officially" there to interrogate Varric on the orders of Lambert or whoever- and Leliana is on the side of the chantry....why would she be there?
I understood that Cassandra's interogation  happened after the events in DA2.  But I wonder now if Cassandra isn't a part of the "official" seeker split and is still loyal to Justinia.

[brushyourteeth]

^ I guess I kind of assumed that the interrogation happened before the final events of Asunder, but you're right -- that totally doesn't make sense based on Varric's guess about why Cassandra's questioning him.

They've both been official seekers in the past. Who Cassandra's loyal to is anybody's guess, though she seems pretty open to the idea that Meredith might be more to blame than the mages. I think you're right -- if Cassandra's with Lambert, Leliana's playing both sides to help Justinia. She definitely wouldn't change loyalties.

Though I'd argue that the "rogue" outfit is really the one that doesn't support the Chantry, but that's me.

Well off-topic now, so I'll repeat:

Cullen fans, unite! We want Cullen!

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 18 avril 2012 - 07:50 .

[Dejajeva]

Yay Cullen!

[LolaLei]

Arppis wrote...

I just hope he remains dead.

Huh? Cullen isn't dead.

... Unless you're talking about Anders, cos of the thread title.

[Octan92]

LolaLei wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

And I agree, ^ LolaLei - Bioware loves giving us troubled, falling-apart romances. So be it -- give me a lyrium withdrawn Cullen who questions his faith in the Chantry leadership!

He could have left already the Chantry, from what we know. The majority of the Templars left it. In this case he'd already questioned hisfaith in the Chantry's leadership (though I think not for the reason you wanted).

It'll be interesting to see how they'll bring him back and in what capacity. If he does become a companion/LI what would drive him to join up with a bunch of random misfits?

This got me to thinking and I'd like to propose a hypothetical question.

Let's say Cullen was added as a companion, but his mind is starting to become addled because years of lyrium use catching up with him.  He even starts mistaking you, his love interest, for Mage Amell or Surana.  Your fellow mage companion presents a possible, but radical, solution, possess Cullen with a entity of the Fade with the hopes it restores his mind. The mage then reveals the only entity willing to go possess an addled templar is a desire demon.  Do you...

1.) Refuse the suggestion. Cullen slowing continues to lose memories. His still has a strong sword arm and retains his templar skills. He loves you but can't remember why.

2.) Convince Cullen to become possessed. The posession is largely successful, Cullen wins the battle of wills and mind is mostly restored. Gameplay wise he switches specialization to Spirit Warrior. Now for the cost, while he still loves you, he loses a lot of impulse control to the desire demon and a monoganous relationship on his end is impossible.

Modifié par Octan92, 18 avril 2012 - 08:56 .

[LolaLei]

Octan92 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

And I agree, ^ LolaLei - Bioware loves giving us troubled, falling-apart romances. So be it -- give me a lyrium withdrawn Cullen who questions his faith in the Chantry leadership!

He could have left already the Chantry, from what we know. The majority of the Templars left it. In this case he'd already questioned hisfaith in the Chantry's leadership (though I think not for the reason you wanted).

It'll be interesting to see how they'll bring him back and in what capacity. If he does become a companion/LI what would drive him to join up with a bunch of random misfits?

This got me to thinking and I'd like to propose a hypothetical question.

Let's say Cullen was added as a companion, but his mind is starting to become addled because years of lyrium use catching up with him.  He even starts mistaking you, his love interest, for Mage Amell or Surana.  Your fellow mage companion presents a possible, but radical, solution, possess Cullen with a entity of the Fade with the hopes it restores his mind. The mage then reveals the only entity willing to go possess an addled templar is a desire demon.  Do you...

1.) Refuse the suggestion. Cullen slowing continues to lose memories. His still has a strong sword arm and retains his templar skills. He loves you but can't remember why.

2.) Convince Cullen to become possessed. The posession is largely successful, Cullen wins the battle of wills and mind is mostly restored. Gameplay wise he switches specialization to Spirit Warrior. Now for the cost, while he still loves you, he loses a lot of impulse control to the desire demon and a monoganous relationship on his end is impossible.

****, now that IS a question!

... I seriously don't know which I'd pick... Hm, I think I'd go with the desire demon. If my PC truly loves him and wants to save him then she'll have to make sacrifices. She'd be aware that it's the desire demon that makes him behave the way he does regarding sex and would be aware that under normal circumstances he wouldn't behave like that. Besides, it would give her the chance to try out free love LMAO! ... That being said Cullen would be really pissed off if he found out that he was now an abomination. He'd probably want her to kill him, so that option would probably come back and bite me in the arse lol.

I'd try out the first option as well though, out of interest to see what outcome is better... ****, I hope Bioware aren't reading this, knowing our luck they'd go and put this in the bloody game!

Modifié par LolaLei, 18 avril 2012 - 09:12 .