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[JBONE27]

 I mean about not changing the ending.  Think about it, there was a huge uproar about how terrible the ending is, and this was often coming from long-time fans IE their base.  The Retake the Ending Movement, while still a vocal minority is growing daily, and are now at nearly 63 thousand.

That, coupled with the fact that they have lied before, as is apparent in neumerous polls throughout these boards, leads me to hypothosise that Bioware is changing the ending into something completely different.  Whether or not it will be better is completely unknowable until there is a script leak, or the Extended Cut actually comes out.

Here is my guess though on how they will do it.  

They get rid of everything after the big choice (which actually makes a difference in this part), and you end up being grabbed by your squad. and you go after Harrbinger.  You fight his avatar TIM (in the same way Saren was the avatar of Soverign) within Harrbinger, and depending on what you chose, either you gain enhanced power (Synthesis), TIM has fewer defenses (Destruction), or you end up taking control of the other squadmates, and fight Shepard and TIM using their powers (control).  

At the end of the control scenario, assuming you win, Shepard gains some control of his/her body, and destroyes the core of Harrbinger killing him/herself in the process, then a funeral followed by an epilogue.  

At the end of destruction, Shepard and company run out of Harrbinger as Joker takes the killing shot on it, Shepard may be crushed depending on EMS, otherwise, it's very simmilar to the ending to ME1, except ther is an epilogue where the immediate rammifications are explained.  

At the end of synthesis, Shepard's powers blow out destroying TIM and Harrbinger, and depending on whether or not you accepted Liara's gift either Shepard becomes paralized, or simply loses all of the extra power.  After that, show an epilogue.

At least that's the way I'd do it if I was relying on something other that IT and keeping in the part with the star brat.  

But then again, this cannot even be called a theory... it can barely be called a hypothosis, and something I'd like to see if they don't get rid of the starchild and don't use IT.

[Dridengx]

So you think Bioware is changing their ending because Retake gained 1,000 members in the last 2 weeks? (even though some are happy now, some gave up but never left the facebook group) interesting. So Bioware is releasing statements from even their Co Founder denying this, using PR ads using Retake's uprising as a quote to sell their game in magazines, and denying your cupcakes all to give you secretly what you want this summer?

I really wouldn't think that way, you are setting yourself up for mass disappointment but I'm no seer

Modifié par Dridengx, 18 avril 2012 - 09:28 .

[XyleJKH]

I like your enthusiasm, however BioWare doesn't like negative feedback. Hiding behind the "artistic integrity" BS shows that they don't care about their fan base and the extended cut will yet be another failed attempt at something that could have been so much more

[BadgerladDK]

I kind of doubt it, man. They'd have to be monumentally stupid to deliberately further undermine their own credibility at this point. They've made mistakes, but they're not idiots.

[HenchxNarf]

Other than the fact that every statement and every piece of PR tells us otherwise.

They like their endings. You're not getting any more endings. How many times do they/people have to tell you that until it sinks in.

Just because you're a very vocal minority of the fanbase doesn't make you special snowflakes that can somehow cause a company to not only lie but give something that is not deserved.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

We're off!

[HenchxNarf]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

We're off!

I read most of your posts in the yeti from the old bugs bunny cartoons, is that bad? lol

Modifié par HenchxNarf, 18 avril 2012 - 09:37 .

[JBONE27]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Other than the fact that every statement and every piece of PR tells us otherwise.

They like their endings. You're not getting any more endings. How many times do they/people have to tell you that until it sinks in.

Just because you're a very vocal minority of the fanbase doesn't make you special snowflakes that can somehow cause a company to not only lie but give something that is not deserved.

How many times did they mention extremely different endings?  How many times did they mention no ABC choice?  I rest my case.

[FDrage]

HenchxNarf wrote...
Just because you're a very vocal minority of the fanbase doesn't make you special snowflakes that can somehow cause a company to not only lie but give something that is not deserved.

comapred to the "silent majoity" ... ah yes seen and heard that before ...

here have a cookie

[HenchxNarf]

JBONE27 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Other than the fact that every statement and every piece of PR tells us otherwise.

They like their endings. You're not getting any more endings. How many times do they/people have to tell you that until it sinks in.

Just because you're a very vocal minority of the fanbase doesn't make you special snowflakes that can somehow cause a company to not only lie but give something that is not deserved.

How many times did they mention extremely different endings?  How many times did they mention no ABC choice?  I rest my case.

You take pre-release statements as if they're etched in gold and never to be changed.

It's called hyperbole. You're not supposed to take it at face value. Maybe that's your problem.

[thebigbad1013]

HenchxNarf wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Other than the fact that every statement and every piece of PR tells us otherwise.

They like their endings. You're not getting any more endings. How many times do they/people have to tell you that until it sinks in.

Just because you're a very vocal minority of the fanbase doesn't make you special snowflakes that can somehow cause a company to not only lie but give something that is not deserved.

How many times did they mention extremely different endings?  How many times did they mention no ABC choice?  I rest my case.

You take pre-release statements as if they're etched in gold and never to be changed.

It's called hyperbole. You're not supposed to take it at face value. Maybe that's your problem.

I'm curious, you're telling us that you are perfectly fine with products nothing matching their description? That us who took BioWare at their word are wrong for doing so? Cause that is certainly....something.

And to the OP, no, I highly doubt that BioWare are lying about this. Why would they?

[Cypher_CS]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[RaggieRags]

I don't understand how anyone can still talk about a "vocal minority". I have followed ME3 threads on many different forums and everywhere I look the majority hates and complains about the ending. BSN isn't the only place to conduct polls about it.

[HenchxNarf]

RaggieRags wrote...

I don't understand how anyone can still talk about a "vocal minority". I have followed ME3 threads on many different forums and everywhere I look the majority hates and complains about the ending. BSN isn't the only place to conduct polls about it.

You know it could be because its the same people.

[JBONE27]

bigbad1013 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

JBONE27 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Other than the fact that every statement and every piece of PR tells us otherwise.

They like their endings. You're not getting any more endings. How many times do they/people have to tell you that until it sinks in.

Just because you're a very vocal minority of the fanbase doesn't make you special snowflakes that can somehow cause a company to not only lie but give something that is not deserved.

How many times did they mention extremely different endings?  How many times did they mention no ABC choice?  I rest my case.

You take pre-release statements as if they're etched in gold and never to be changed.

It's called hyperbole. You're not supposed to take it at face value. Maybe that's your problem.

I'm curious, you're telling us that you are perfectly fine with products nothing matching their description? That us who took BioWare at their word are wrong for doing so? Cause that is certainly....something.

And to the OP, no, I highly doubt that BioWare are lying about this. Why would they?

Simple, to keep people talking.  The saying goes, "There is no such thing as bad publicity."

[SLana]

HenchxNarf wrote...

RaggieRags wrote...

I don't understand how anyone can still talk about a "vocal minority". I have followed ME3 threads on many different forums and everywhere I look the majority hates and complains about the ending. BSN isn't the only place to conduct polls about it.

You know it could be because its the same people.

In my country, many people rage only on local forums just because they don't speak english.

[Icinix]

RaggieRags wrote...

I don't understand how anyone can still talk about a "vocal minority". I have followed ME3 threads on many different forums and everywhere I look the majority hates and complains about the ending. BSN isn't the only place to conduct polls about it.

Everytime I see it I have to chuckle to myself.

I can't pick up a gaming magazine that doesn't have some commentary about the ME3 ending in it at the moment and lot of those magazines themselves say how massive this is.

Whatever though, they can call it a vocal minority all they want, it won't make it so.

[RaggieRags]

HenchxNarf wrote...

You know it could be because its the same people.

I find it hard to believe a "vocal minority" in here would magically know all at the same time whenever a poll is being conducted somewhere on the Internet and rush in the scew the results, while the majority of forum regulars just don't bother to vote at all.

[HenchxNarf]

RaggieRags wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

You know it could be because its the same people.

I find it hard to believe a "vocal minority" in here would magically know all at the same time whenever a poll is being conducted somewhere on the Internet and rush in the scew the results, while the majority of forum regulars just don't bother to vote at all.

Wanna make a bet? The flash mob hit the gametrailers poll as soon as someone found out about it.

You would be surprised the length some of them would go to make sure they look like "winners"

[RaggieRags]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Wanna make a bet? The flash mob hit the gametrailers poll as soon as someone found out about it.

You would be surprised the length some of them would go to make sure they look like "winners"

How does this mob find out about these polls that have never even been mentioned in here? How about forum discussions that are limited only to readers of a certain magazine in Finnish? People make rally calls to vote in polls over in here all the time, so if this mob was purposely trying to hit every single ME3 poll on the Internet, you'd know about it. We have threads about everything the retakers are doing right here in BSN. Scewing online polls hasn't been on the agenda.

[AkiKishi]

By the time anything appears most people will have ceased to care. Which beg's the question is the delay because they need time, or are they just buying time until people move on ?

March was a quiet month, Witcher 2 just came out , that will distract a lot of people . Next month Max Payne comes out and so on.

[Common Danger]

My sons will ot play the game now they hate the ending 3 colors wow walk this way and pick your color how glorious do you need a brick to fall from the sky to fall on your head EA / Bioware to see the light that no one liked the ending, and the few that did they make up the very vocal minority.

Do you know that the Gaming commision is looking in to the multiplayer store practices as well "the Microsoft points VS credits re Exploits Random number generator" .

I know you will ban me for posting what I sent the gamming commision and talked about with them conerning the game so I wont go there.

You will not listen to us. This is why I took such drastic actions.

If any one wants to pm me to the contents of that converstaion I will be glad to send it to them

Modifié par Common Danger, 18 avril 2012 - 10:08 .

[HenchxNarf]

Common Danger wrote...

My sons will ot play the game now they hate the ending 3 colors wow walk this way and pick your color how glorious do you need a brick to fall from the sky to fall on your head EA / Bioware to see the light that no one liked the ending, and the few that did they make up the very vocal minority.

Do you know that the Gaming commision is looking in to the multiplayer store practices as well "the Microsoft points VS credits re Exploits Random number generator" .

I know you will ban me for posting what I sent the gamming commision and talked about with them conerning the game so I wont go there.

You will not listen to us. This is why I took such drastic actions.

If any one wants to pm me to the contents of that converstaion I will be glad to send it to them

I call bull. Just saying.

[Common Danger]

Thats why EA had so many people on the phone then it ended so quickly after no thank you just click. You need to read the law,  and thats why a cerified copy is off to redman washinton the legal department with a ticket number from microsoft they want to see it as well.

  

Modifié par Common Danger, 18 avril 2012 - 10:17 .

[AkiKishi]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Common Danger wrote...

My sons will ot play the game now they hate the ending 3 colors wow walk this way and pick your color how glorious do you need a brick to fall from the sky to fall on your head EA / Bioware to see the light that no one liked the ending, and the few that did they make up the very vocal minority.

Do you know that the Gaming commision is looking in to the multiplayer store practices as well "the Microsoft points VS credits re Exploits Random number generator" .

I know you will ban me for posting what I sent the gamming commision and talked about with them conerning the game so I wont go there.

You will not listen to us. This is why I took such drastic actions.

If any one wants to pm me to the contents of that converstaion I will be glad to send it to them

I call bull. Just saying.

Would not suprise me since you are gambling with real money when you buy a pack. It's a gamble just like a lottery ticket, not a purchase. The rules are very different.