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[Common Danger]

EA tried to blow it off as a trading card you can not trade it with outher users on line I have a recording of the call, it is legal as long as one person know it is being recorded and they state that the call is recorded so that makes to copies

Modifié par Common Danger, 18 avril 2012 - 10:23 .

[KDD-0063]

Sure. About the so called vocal minority. There are people, some are always vocal, while some are always silent.

The problem is never that some are vocal. If you compare ME3 forum to that of ME2 or DAO, ME3 forum lacks threads talking about great moments of the game, and that is the problem. It's not the people's fault that they don't talk about it, it's because people's feeling on the ending is so overwhelming that everything else is secondary.

If majority of people actually like the ending we would see a lot more threads talking about Tuchanka or Rannoch.

------------------------------------alright. enough about vocal minority--------------------------------------------

Anyway. To the OP.

The extended cut announcement is more like a PR speak that shrugs off some pressure before PAX.

The announcements on twitter and etc doesn't deny anything; and "tweaking" of the ending such as IT can really be seen from both sides. They can argue it's extending the ending because the previous scenes are there; they can also argue it's changing the ending.

but from their general tone of defending the ending, don't get your hopes up. The "anything is possible" announcements are more likely there so that the people who think ending should be changed are not immediately disappointed.

On a bright side, it isn't logical for them to work on anything else till summer so they get a good two to three months to work on EC, because if EC is a disappointment, I cannot see how a paid DLC which would come out at about the same time--assuming they split their focus and work on both--would sell well.

but EA's managers aren't known for being logical.

Modifié par KDD-0063, 18 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[AkiKishi]

Common Danger wrote...

EA tried to blow it off as a trading card you can trade it with outher users on line I have a recording of the call, it is legal as long as one person know it is being recorded and they stat that the call is recorded for quality control so that makes to copies

Let me get this straight before I go reporting to my boss.

You buy a pack, but it's completely random whether or not you get something you can use in it ? So you can end up wasting money and get nothing?

Make another thread on the subject good for data gathering.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 18 avril 2012 - 10:24 .

[FlyingWalrus]

The more convoluted the theories get, the sadder the desperation feels.

I just applied Occam's Razor to the matter and was done with it. I like Mass Effect 3 for what it is but the lost potential of it will always haunt me, even if the Extended Cut DLC fills in every perceptible inconsistency in the endgame.

[FlyingWalrus]

Also, don't use Microsoft Points to buy reinforcement packs. That's just dumb, and you're JUSTIFYING EA's ridiculous and increasingly permeating pay-to-win business model.

[Common Danger]

it is totally random based on the random number generator with in your Xbox360, PC or PS3. has no permanent seal to prevent the tampering of the device or manipulation of the code.

[AkiKishi]

Common Danger wrote...

it is totally random based on the random number generator with in your Xbox360, PC or PS3. has no permanent seal to prevent the tampering of the device or manipulation of the code.

Online gambling in other words ? 

And you definately can't trade items so you could spend real money and end up with nothing?

[Common Danger]

Now you know why they hung up on me I have about three pages

[AkiKishi]

Common Danger wrote...

Now you know why they hung up on me I have about three pages

Passed it up the chain. Cheers for the heads up.

Really needs a thread of it's own.

http://www.gamblingc...uk/default.aspx

As it applies in the UK if anyone wants to check it out.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 18 avril 2012 - 10:39 .

[Common Danger]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

Also, don't use Microsoft Points to buy reinforcement packs. That's just dumb, and you're JUSTIFYING EA's ridiculous and increasingly permeating pay-to-win business model.

I did not justify anyting that  EA did just the opposite

[Ravian Gale]

Dridengx wrote...

So you think Bioware is changing their ending because Retake gained 1,000 members in the last 2 weeks? (even though some are happy now, some gave up but never left the facebook group) interesting. So Bioware is releasing statements from even their Co Founder denying this, using PR ads using Retake's uprising as a quote to sell their game in magazines, and denying your cupcakes all to give you secretly what you want this summer?

I really wouldn't think that way, you are setting yourself up for mass disappointment but I'm no seer

Actually, we can safely assume that they will change it because EA lost 6% of their stock value yesterday. They have been on a steady decline for months now, but ever since ME3 came out, things have been turning for the worst for them. Their stock value only rose when the game did come out for the first 3 days, but then afterwords that changed.

I would suggest you check the news articles dug up by the HTL crew. 

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

JBONE27 wrote...
The Retake the Ending Movement, while still a vocal minority is growing daily, and are now at nearly 63 thousand.

Do you know stats professionals uses about how many consumers doesn't complain about a problem for each one who does?
Do you know how polls works?
Solve those issues instead of trolling people.

[Arik7]

Every single poll conducted shows over 80% opposition to the current ending, extended or not.... It doesn't really matter how large the facebook group is, the Retake movement represent the overwhelming majority of Mass Effect 3 players. The pro-enders are an extremely tiny minority. I keep seeing the same 3 or 4 people here attacking the Retake movement and not in intelligent way.

[PaddlePop]

Ravian Gale wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

So you think Bioware is changing their ending because Retake gained 1,000 members in the last 2 weeks? (even though some are happy now, some gave up but never left the facebook group) interesting. So Bioware is releasing statements from even their Co Founder denying this, using PR ads using Retake's uprising as a quote to sell their game in magazines, and denying your cupcakes all to give you secretly what you want this summer?

I really wouldn't think that way, you are setting yourself up for mass disappointment but I'm no seer

Actually, we can safely assume that they will change it because EA lost 6% of their stock value yesterday. They have been on a steady decline for months now, but ever since ME3 came out, things have been turning for the worst for them. Their stock value only rose when the game did come out for the first 3 days, but then afterwords that changed.

I would suggest you check the news articles dug up by the HTL crew. 

QFT

[ToaOrka]

They're not lying, because in this case, lying would require more effort than just using the "Artistic Integrity" excuse to pump out more of the same ending that we already didn't like.

[Common Danger]

there are alot of people that did not know how 2 and 3 tied togeher and what was mising there I played the arival again to remember myself I think there should have been some sort of notice in the dash of of ME3 about the arrival pack and a way to obtain and play it with ME3 to understand. that would have cloesed a loop there.

The ending was really lacking I can say that, I was expexting more it was to short and a cut scene did not cut it

[Sanunes]

I doubt we will be getting more then what they said they were going to do, for BioWare has said they liked the ending as it was.

The problem with any poll on these message boards is the sample area isn't diverse, for it would be like going to a stadium and conducting a poll if a coach/player should be fired because of a bad season. Its the same here, the people that are upset about Mass Effect 3 are all gathering in message boards or other places where people are feeling the same so the polls are going to be naturally showing people aren't in favor of the endings. Its why any "official poll" will ask you personal information to see where the opinions are from.

[Common Danger]

Bioware is owned by EA, EA controls what Bioware says and does and how it does it. They hold the purse strings.

Modifié par Common Danger, 18 avril 2012 - 12:06 .

[nythwx]

I thought no spoilers were allowed

[Common Danger]

nythwx wrote...

I thought no spoilers were allowed

what spoilers are mentioned I dont see any thing that tells you about the end

Modifié par Common Danger, 18 avril 2012 - 12:40 .

[RebelTitan428]

XyleJKH wrote...

I like your enthusiasm, however BioWare doesn't like negative feedback. Hiding behind the "artistic integrity" BS shows that they don't care about their fan base and the extended cut will yet be another failed attempt at something that could have been so much more

+1

[Nadya2]

Bioware have turned into the gaming Equivalent of a Politician.  lots of promisses, lots of hype.  and a crappy job end result.

Trusting EAware  is like Trusting a politician.   they have 0 credibility.