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Synthesis...pretty horrific, if you think about it


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GorrilaKing

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Even though it''s the supposedly "good" ending, with everyone living, it still seems quite horrific to me.

---Medics desperately trying to knit an injured soldier back together...green light passes through them...and, apart from the trauma of suddenly being composed of bio-mechanical parts, they don't know how the man's body works now!

---Geth suffering systems failure due to delays between the newly-introduced nerve strains and artificial ganglia.

----Normandy's computer core turning into half a brain (EDI is not her body, she IS the Normandy, her processors and blue box are stored onboard). Does that mean she needs a neurosurgeon and a technician to repair her damage? The same goes for Geth ships, since they are part of the Consensus or at least have individual Geth inside them.

---Children! How traumatising would it be for a young child to suddenly undergo a change of your looks and the way your entire body works...and see the change in your own parents??? I see psych wards practically exploding.

And these are just the things that come to mind immediately. The idea is just...terrifying, if you think too much about it.

And on another note...the Catalyst can create a beam of energy that somehow manages to affect any organic and synthetic thing in the universe....and yet it cannot simply switch into "kill reapers, leave other synthetics intact" mode??? Really, what the hell??

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The Angry One

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Also, think of the primitive worlds that have no idea what's going on.
Suddenly *green light* and poof! Everybody has glowing green eyes and is apparently half-synthetic.

Hell imagine the impact of such an event on Earth, *today*. There'd be conspiracy theories, riots, mass suicides...

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Roxy Lalonde

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The implications of Synthesis unnerve me to no end, to be honest. The biologist in me dies a little when Starchild is all "A NEW DNA!!!!!", and you're rewriting all life, organic or otherwise, without its consent.

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It's the fact that it's imposing a change on everyone without their consent that made it impossible to me. Same reason I destroyed the Geth heretics in ME2 rather than indoctrinate them.

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The Angry One

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Roxy Lalonde wrote...

The implications of Synthesis unnerve me to no end, to be honest. The biologist in me dies a little when Starchild is all "A NEW DNA!!!!!", and you're rewriting all life, organic or otherwise, without its consent.


Yeah and "the final evolution of all organic life".
Starbaby, you fail at biology forever!

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Extra-Planetal

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I still say Synthesis ending - IT'S A TRAP

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Synthesis:   

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Roxy Lalonde

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The Angry One wrote...

Roxy Lalonde wrote...

The implications of Synthesis unnerve me to no end, to be honest. The biologist in me dies a little when Starchild is all "A NEW DNA!!!!!", and you're rewriting all life, organic or otherwise, without its consent.


Yeah and "the final evolution of all organic life".
Starbaby, you fail at biology forever!


Kid clearly never took any science classes. "Final evolution" is practically an oxymoron. 
Also, I feel like Starchild reaaallly should've expanded on what the frak Synthesis even did. Yeah, it ~combines~ synthetic and organic life. Right. How. What parts of synthetic life does each organism get and how is that determined? SO MANY QUESTIONSSS.

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Tirranek wrote...

It's the fact that it's imposing a change on everyone without their consent that made it impossible to me. Same reason I destroyed the Geth heretics in ME2 rather than indoctrinate them.


My thoughts exacly.

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Roxy Lalonde wrote...

The implications of Synthesis unnerve me to no end, to be honest. The biologist in me dies a little when Starchild is all "A NEW DNA!!!!!", and you're rewriting all life, organic or otherwise, without its consent.



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It's space magic! It doesn't have to make sense!!!

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I think it's laughable that the star kid says that it's the "final evolution."

Evolution doesn't have an endpoint, that along with the new DNA crap makes me wonder what kind of science classes the writers attended.

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Also, did anyone notice that when Shepard asked "And there will be peace?" the Starchild paused before saying " The Cycle will end"

There is no guarrantee that the reapers WILL leave us alone. And based on what we've heard the reapers say to us, they wouldn't.

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Oh come on guys, lets called it what it is "reaperized"; like the planet and the squad members who step off the ship synthesis is just a prettier way of saying "reaperized" or in ME speak, husks.

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Roxy Lalonde

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KingZayd wrote...

Also, did anyone notice that when Shepard asked "And there will be peace?" the Starchild paused before saying " The Cycle will end"


He's a creepy bugger, with his circular logic and vague "answers". I stood there for a couple of minutes and shot at him.

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The Angry One

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The worst part about "final evolution" is that some people actually buy this, they think that merging with synthetics will halt all evolution. Because evolution works that way right.
Nevermind the fact that synthesis changes so little that Joker still has brittle bones, but this is somehow going to stop the need to survive and adapt to enviroment? Yeah, right.

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Lemme check what happens when we forcibly convert an organic being to have synthetic components...Husks!

Also, Synthetics don't have DNA. Since we're now chock full of synthetic components, it would appear we can be hacked. Anyone else think the Quarians become our new overlords in the synthesis ending?

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survivor_686 wrote...

Lemme check what happens when we forcibly convert an organic being to have synthetic components...Husks!

Also, Synthetics don't have DNA. Since we're now chock full of synthetic components, it would appear we can be hacked. Anyone else think the Quarians become our new overlords in the synthesis ending?

Nope, but the catalyst or harbinger did "assuming direct control"

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Anyone else think Starchild is lying at this point? He really tries to sell you on the control or synthesis choices...which basically leave the Reapers as a major player on the galactic scene.

Destroy means his kind will be removed from the galaxy.

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The Angry One wrote...

Also, think of the primitive worlds that have no idea what's going on.
Suddenly *green light* and poof! Everybody has glowing green eyes and is apparently half-synthetic.

Hell imagine the impact of such an event on Earth, *today*. There'd be conspiracy theories, riots, mass suicides...

This imposes two questions: How far did the pulses from the relays actually go out and were dormant relays activated?
If the pulses only cover the near vicinity of their relay of origin and the dormant relays aren't activated(which would make rebuilding the relay network even easier)  then this is not much of a problem.

For me it is more the fact that Shepard enforces a complete make-over upon every being of the affected races without their consent.
I'm pretty sure a lot of them would rather take their chances in a conventional battle than succumb to this.

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Roxy Lalonde wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Also, did anyone notice that when Shepard asked "And there will be peace?" the Starchild paused before saying " The Cycle will end"


He's a creepy bugger, with his circular logic and vague "answers". I stood there for a couple of minutes and shot at him.


same.. and then i forgot where i was meant to go.. accidentally triggered the synthesis cutscene when wondering around.. DON'T MAKE ME JUMP INTO THE ENERGY BEAM, I JUST WANTED A CLOSER LOOK!

in the end, the rage was all part of the Starchild's trap too :(

Modifié par KingZayd, 18 avril 2012 - 01:07 .


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Roxy Lalonde

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survivor_686 wrote...

Anyone else think Starchild is lying at this point? He really tries to sell you on the control or synthesis choices...which basically leave the Reapers as a major player on the galactic scene.

Destroy means his kind will be removed from the galaxy.


Whenever you start to think/say "Am I the only one who - ", remind yourself that no, you are not. There are whole threads for such thoughts. Lots of people on here - most people, in my experience - think Starchild is lying through his synthetic teeth. 

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survivor_686 wrote...

Lemme check what happens when we forcibly convert an organic being to have synthetic components...Husks!

Also, Synthetics don't have DNA. Since we're now chock full of synthetic components, it would appear we can be hacked. Anyone else think the Quarians become our new overlords in the synthesis ending?


the geth are better hackers i believe.. or EDI. probably the geth.

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It's supposed to be one ending. Not necessarily a good one. It is one hell of a decision to make. Then again, the chance probably won't ever come again either.

If you don't like it, don't choose it. Problem solved.

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survivor_686 wrote...

Anyone else think Starchild is lying at this point? He really tries to sell you on the control or synthesis choices...which basically leave the Reapers as a major player on the galactic scene.

Destroy means his kind will be removed from the galaxy.


No, I don't think it's intended to be portrayed as lying, because Shepard isn't given a choice to refuse. The developers clearly intended these to be real, valid options (or they wrote Indoctrination after all).

Also, if it's lying, why do you think the Destroy option would work as advertised?

Synthesis is pretty much the worst option I can think of, but it's the option we're given, that's what you have to go by. Going to point at the ending thread in my signature again.