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Zulmoka531 wrote...

Deltoran wrote...

Zulmoka531 wrote...

I don't think this would have been so bad had the stock image not been, well for lack of a better word, so lazily edited.

It is so..close to it's original that it is like no effort went into it whatsoever. I mean at least change the background from trees and plains to a more Rannoch-ish looking area.


Yes and no...it was a lazily done photoshop but at the same time, a photoshop, even a good one wouldn't have done it for me.  Seeing her face in the Rannoch and romance scenes would've been the best...3d model...it's not THAT hard, and it would be 'totally worth it'. 


I agree with you. It pains me to see Chobot get a full character in the game (though the events around here concerning IGN and EA ,yadda yadda, doesn't surprise me) and then Tali reduced to a stock image. But given the reality of it, I still would have prefered some work go into the photo if a render was out of the question.

That whole life giving you lemons and lemonade thing.


when bioware gives you a lemon, you imagine what it would be like with any other fruit. and then bioware gives you two lemons.

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Jat371 wrote...

katamuro wrote...

DoktorAffentanz wrote...

Just amazing what, became of the people who brought us Mass Effect 1....


yeah people changed for the worse


It makes me wonder what parts of ME1 were Casey Hudson's contributions...

He was the one in charge of designing all the different underground science facilities for the side missions.

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bro_9009 wrote...

There were multiple threads with Tali's face pictures made by fans. Whether you like them or not, I think a lot more effort went into them than in finding a stock photo.

This thread has high-resolution images, I think there is even an explanation on how to mod this pictures into the game to replace stock photo: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10897758/1 (thread titled "This one sees debate on Tali's Face. It would like to provide you with a mod...")

Here is one of these Tali images:

Image IPB

Another thread: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11372403/1

See that picture fits tali, and its already made they should have just used it

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not sure why she has brown eyes though..

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Giving us nothing but a photo was bad enough, but making it a lazily edited photoshop instead? You can't tell me that bioware thought we would be happy with that, they just couldn't.

And then they shoehorn Chobot in, give us a face full of uncanney valley, ( I swear, she reminds me of a furby I used to own in regards to facial animations) and she barely even has enough lines to justify being in the game....

Its maddening. Hell if they had to stick with a crummy picture they could have at least used concept art instead of photoshopping a human's face, chopping off some fingers, and calling it a day. >.>

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M0keys wrote...

Zulmoka531 wrote...

Deltoran wrote...

Zulmoka531 wrote...

I don't think this would have been so bad had the stock image not been, well for lack of a better word, so lazily edited.

It is so..close to it's original that it is like no effort went into it whatsoever. I mean at least change the background from trees and plains to a more Rannoch-ish looking area.


Yes and no...it was a lazily done photoshop but at the same time, a photoshop, even a good one wouldn't have done it for me.  Seeing her face in the Rannoch and romance scenes would've been the best...3d model...it's not THAT hard, and it would be 'totally worth it'. 


I agree with you. It pains me to see Chobot get a full character in the game (though the events around here concerning IGN and EA ,yadda yadda, doesn't surprise me) and then Tali reduced to a stock image. But given the reality of it, I still would have prefered some work go into the photo if a render was out of the question.

That whole life giving you lemons and lemonade thing.


when bioware gives you a lemon, you imagine what it would be like with any other fruit. and then bioware gives you two lemons.


Or...if Bioware gives us lemons:

www.youtube.com/watch

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halbert986 wrote...

Am I the only person who remembers Grunt describing Quarians as tough? Crispy, hard skinned? He says they're difficult to kill with a blade is what I'm getting at.

Just another thing about ME2 that was dismissed? File that one along with anderson was councilor?

No, you're just the only person that didn't realize Grunt was talking about their Suits.

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Deltoran wrote...

Or...if Bioware gives us lemons:

www.youtube.com/watch


lol... combustible lemons....

Modifié par DoktorAffentanz, 18 avril 2012 - 09:26 .


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They definitely did this on purpose to spite us, nobody in their right mind would think for a millisecond this crappy shoop would suffice. And why even a shoop, what about the rannoch scene??? Bunch of...idk what to say, although I will refer to that first youtube. Omment. Sums it up pretty well. Sry casey if you see this but this is atrocious

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Either show us Tali's face as a complete and unique 3D model,

or not at all and keep it a romantic secret.



Instead, they did both half-assed.

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Hallex and the artist Forta. A warning of things to come, thinly veiled.

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Bioware has really weird priorities.

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No wonder the ending sucks, if it was written by these two.

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Why could they not use Tali's VA as her face? I've seen a picture oh her VA and she's good looking.

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The Invisible Commando wrote...

Why could they not use Tali's VA as her face? I've seen a picture oh her VA and she's good looking.


Thats not artistic enough for bioware.... only photo shopping a random image from google image search is.

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The Invisible Commando wrote...

Why could they not use Tali's VA as her face? I've seen a picture oh her VA and she's good looking.


maybe consent issues?

I'd rather they didn't show her face at all, instead of that photo

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The Invisible Commando wrote...

Why could they not use Tali's VA as her face? I've seen a picture oh her VA and she's good looking.


They would have to pay her more for her likeness; using a stock image would have been much cheaper.

Of course, this falls apart when you notice almost every squadmember is modeled after their VA (Allers, Miranda) or a model (every human squadmate.)

Bioware is lazy.

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A bad decision. Just a real, bad decision. Why the hell show her face like that? From all the ways, why a photoshop on some pic Shepard has? Why something so random? Why not a model like you know, ALL OTHER CHARACTERS. If you liked the picture why not make Derek make a concept based on it and then the 3D artists would make their job?

Why not show it after the battle with the geth, where she can breath in the quarian home planet again? Where she's on soil she can says it's hers, where she'll build her little house. Why didn't in that moment, she turn around to Shepard smiling? Actually, do you know what would every Tali fan would like to see? TALI SMILING. Is she smiling in that picture? NO. This picture shows no care, no touch, no will. Just a lazy photoshop on whatever Casey had it.

In a game where there are strong feelings everywhere you really didn't think this properly.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 18 avril 2012 - 09:52 .


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Had three games which hinted at her facial features depending on helmet/lighting conditions when looking at her. They came up with something to use for a picture. Which was close to how I thought she looked. So was it really hard to create that face for her in game? You already have a body to work with just need to create a head or tweak a human female head to add to that body.

Just a few missed opportunities with her in game during cut scenes. Stuff that could be patched into existing scenes.

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Opsrbest wrote...

And people wonder why they won't come and talk to them on the forums.

Look it is not my fault they've been giving me so much facepalm material lately.

If they chose to stick their noses out the reinforced steel door of their bomb shelter I would be the image of courtesy and thank them cordially for providing us with so much joke fuel.

Then I would hug whoever wrote Eve, cuz wow. 

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They could always patch a different texture into it's place, like they did with the batarian codex in ME1 when BDTS came out.

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RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

A bad decision. Just a real, bad decision. Why the hell show her face like that? From all the ways, why a photoshop on some pic Shepard has? Why something so random? Why not a model like you know, ALL OTHER CHARACTERS. If you liked the picture why not make Derek make a concept based on it and then the 3D artists would make their job?

Why not show it after the battle with the geth, where she can breath in the quarian home planet again? Where she's on soil she can says it's hers, where she'll build her little house. Why didn't in that moment, she turn around to Shepard smiling? Actually, do you know what would every Tali fan would like to see? TALI SMILING. Is she smiling in that picture? NO. This picture shows no care, no touch, no will. Just a lazy photoshop on whatever Casey had it.

In a game where there are strong feelings everywhere you really didn't think this properly.

Couldn't agree more.

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Yeah. This is for all those people who still trust Bioware and what they are doing with the extended cut DLC.

Be ready to be disappointed yet again people. The ending can't be explained, it HAS to be changed.

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Why didn't they model her acter her voice actor?

Because they didn't feel the voice actor fit the image. Simple as that.

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"Mac is a bosh'tet and Casey with his silly beret is an even bigger one."

:lol: