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[XTR3M3]

They should have not revealed her face at all if a really poorly done photoshop'd image is all they were going to do. It cheapened a character and mystery of a situation. They killed the whole Tali mystery with the same bad "choices" that gave us the ending.

If I could have them do something simple in the EC? delete the whole "Tali reveal" photo crap. We are better off not knowing if that was how they were going to do it.

[halbert986]

See but they never say "This picture was the best, we loved it." It sounds more like they never wanted to do an in game rendering, but would rather just do a photo. Ok fine by me. But render the photo! Don't slap some purple over a human model from google images.

To me that video sounds more like covering up shoddy work due to time constraints or whatever. Putting a positive spin on something no one is happy with.

[jumpingkaede]

 If nothing else, this whole affair has been comedic gold.

halbert986 wrote...

See but they never say "This picture was the best, we loved it." It sounds more like they never wanted to do an in game rendering, but would rather just do a photo. Ok fine by me. But render the photo! Don't slap some purple over a human model from google images.

To me that video sounds more like covering up shoddy work due to time constraints or whatever. Putting a positive spin on something no one is happy with.

I think Tali is awesome, and the stock photo 'chop didn't offend me as much as the purely amateurish nature of the photoshop.

It's something I could do.  And do better.  And I haven't really played with Photoshop since I was doing design with 3.0.  It's also something that plenty of people online have done better.  Using the same stock photo.  And if they wanted to create a face, well, fans -- for nothing other than their love of th game -- have come up with countless examples of a Quarian's face that puts Bioware to shame.

And Bioware gives us this.

Modifié par jumpingkaede, 18 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[aj2070]

Dr. Megaverse wrote...

Excerpt from Final Hours:

"...In this case it's the trilogy that's ending, and Casey Hudson doesn't want to be the guy who forgot to wrap up a plot line that fans want to see resolved."

Omfg....faceplam

Wow.  Just... wow.

So as I read this, Casey Hudson has no problem being the guy who intentially failed to wrap up a plot line the fans wanted to see resolved.  Should have stuck with forgot.

Modifié par aj2070, 18 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[DanteTrixter]

Artistic integrity at its finest!

[NM_Che56]

They bunted that reveal!

They should have shown her face in game at that scene on Rannoch where she takes off her f******g MASK! That's a no brainer! Depending on the outcome, you would either see her with a closed eye, soft smile as she took in the air of her homeworld or you would see her beyond distraught with tears streaming down her face as she...well...you know. It would have been dramatic and in context! Instead, she gives Shepard, who's already seen her face, a PICTURE of her? That's just awkward and seemingly out of character given how she's presented as being a fairly modest person. It seems out of character for her to be posing like that for a potrait!

Modifié par Master Che, 18 avril 2012 - 04:07 .

[comrade gando]

They think this is an acceptable design for tali???

Cue Biff from back to the future: Hello mcfly, anybody home? *knocks on forehead*

[Fingertrip]

I'm okay with tali's face. Some people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's a video game, give it a rest.

[Goober2049]

Xion66 wrote...

Ah, thank you for that update, I was wondering about the source but found the information poignant enough to post here, if it's from the app, couldn't this just be a recording of the video playing?

It's entirely possible, but since you can access the videos without having to open the app on the PC version, it would be easier to just upload the actual MP4 file that is in HD instead of recording it with his phone.

Watching them both side by side again, i'm pretty convinced that this guy took the harder, lower quality route. The only difference between the videos is where he adds in the screen shots from the game.

[emp6]

lordnyx1 wrote...
Yeah, people didn't want to see her ingame..
sigh

I actually believe that showing her not in the game was the right way. Tali was so beloved by the fanbase that no possible model/rendering could meet the expactations. But they way they handled this fact was just poor.

Why didn't they put some old photos of quarians from the time before the suits on Rannoch. In a ruin. Iike the ones on Haestrom. In this case, people would have a frame of how quarians look and could imagen they're own Tali (like they did since ME1). It would keep the mistery up but in a nice way.

(It btw sucks that we don't see anything quarian at Rannoch at all...lazy mother****ers)

[Garlador]

Fingertrip wrote...

I'm okay with tali's face. Some people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's a video game, give it a rest.

The "face" is fine. It's the insanely lazy execution that bothers most people. A generic, badly-done photoshopped stock photo.

They managed to spend time, money, and resources modeling Jessica Chobot's face, but they couldn't be bothered to model the face of a beloved squadmate that's been by your side in all three games.

It was a lazy, underwhelming, and vastly disappointing method of reveal, not just for Tali, but for her entire species. The quarians, and Tali, deserved far more effort.

[Pairikas]

The Moment on Ranoch when she put away her Mask was so Perfect to show her face... but well, that would have mean some Work, so they make that Random-Internet-Pic Thing. What a Great Artistic Vision.

[NM_Che56]

Fingertrip wrote...

I'm okay with tali's face. Some people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's a video game, give it a rest.

[howieloader]

Garlador wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

I'm okay with tali's face. Some people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's a video game, give it a rest.

The "face" is fine. It's the insanely lazy execution that bothers most people. A generic, badly-done photoshopped stock photo.

They managed to spend time, money, and resources modeling Jessica Chobot's face, but they couldn't be bothered to model the face of a beloved squadmate that's been by your side in all three games.

It was a lazy, underwhelming, and vastly disappointing method of reveal, not just for Tali, but for her entire species. The quarians, and Tali, deserved far more effort.

It's art breh... You don't get it that's a you problem...

/sarcasm off

[shepskisaac]

Just look how mature comments under that YT video are

[Excl]

Fingertrip wrote...

I'm okay with tali's face. Some people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's a video game, give it a rest.

No it's not ... it's "art".

[Nightwriter]

"It went through its own round of revisions and everything, and then finally we sort of had that, 'Yep, this is her, everyone agrees on it, that looks... that looks, you know, proper.'"

Modifié par Nightwriter, 18 avril 2012 - 04:16 .

[Storm258]

Ooooh right, it "went through it's own round of revisions and everything", like all your "artistic vision" throughout the game, correct?. Or rather taking a stock photo from a website and photoshop it with almost no effort. Seriously, I am not a huge Tali-fan, and I still would have preferred to show her face at that moment on Rannoch, which would have been totally epic, rather than including this completely pointless character of James Vega or the even more pointless Diana Allers thing, which was probably meant for some IGN Jessica Chobot fans to drool over, but turned to look nothing like the original.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

IsaacShep wrote...

Just look how mature comments under that YT video are

+100

[DoktorAffentanz]

Fingertrip wrote...

I'm okay with tali's face. Some people are really blowing this out of proportion. It's a video game, give it a rest.

So, because it's a video game, they don't have to put effort into it?

Hmmm.... maybe I should start making video games that have crappy images in it and you can buy them cause it's okay that they are full of crappy images cause they are video games.

Right....

[NM_Che56]

Excl wrote...
No it's not ... it's "art".

Just not Bioware's art...unless you count the photoshoped embelishments...

[jeff359]

it has a lens flare though ...

[Reaper_PL]

"Went it's own round of revisions"... More like applying multiple times lens flare effect.

[Xion66]

IsaacShep wrote...

Just look how mature comments under that YT video are

Judging people's stance by youtube commenters is probably the silliest thing I've ever seen, comment section usually blow but it's pretty much accepted that youtube comments are not even worth to take into consideration.

[jijeebo]

That first comment is epicsauce. xD

But seriously, they went from "Keeping the mystery." to photoshopping a stock photo in 30 seconds...

They do realise that even though it wasn't an in-game model it still ruined the mystery, right?

I mean... Were they HIGH when they were making all these decisions? It's redunkulous.

Good grief.