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jumpingkaede wrote...
I think Tali is awesome, and the stock photo 'chop didn't offend me as much as the purely amateurish nature of the photoshop.

It's something I could do.  And do better.  And I haven't really played with Photoshop since I was doing design with 3.0.  It's also something that plenty of people online have done better.  Using the same stock photo.


QFT. Am I disappointed that we didn't get a full 3D model of her face? A bit. But honestly I liked the design. I even liked the idea of her giving Shepard a picture of her, and I can handle it being a modified stock photo. I was, however, appalled at the execution of it all. I mean come on, look at the fingers! And where's her suit? And why are there trees behind her? And why nail polish?

If you're going to Photoshop a picture, at least do it right!

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If you wear a jacket inside, you're either a giant douche or a turd sandwich. I think we see one of each in this video.

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Resources may have been used to make Chobot's face rather than Tali's, but it could be worse. At least they didn't put Chobot's face on Tali. Image IPB

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It's sad that they are in charge.

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Syokhan wrote...

jumpingkaede wrote...
I think Tali is awesome, and the stock photo 'chop didn't offend me as much as the purely amateurish nature of the photoshop.

It's something I could do.  And do better.  And I haven't really played with Photoshop since I was doing design with 3.0.  It's also something that plenty of people online have done better.  Using the same stock photo.


QFT. Am I disappointed that we didn't get a full 3D model of her face? A bit. But honestly I liked the design. I even liked the idea of her giving Shepard a picture of her, and I can handle it being a modified stock photo. I was, however, appalled at the execution of it all. I mean come on, look at the fingers! And where's her suit? And why are there trees behind her? And why nail polish?

If you're going to Photoshop a picture, at least do it right!


Plus the convert image to b&w --> apply purple hue.  Quarians are purple, right?  So EVERYTHING IN THE PICTURE should be purple!  Including the background obviously.

The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that Hudson and/or Walters photoshopped it themselves and no on the team had the heart to break it to them.

Modifié par jumpingkaede, 18 avril 2012 - 04:46 .


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Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more important".


To be fair, pragmatically it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of resources, money and work on a 3D face that was supposed to only be shown for 4 seconds in a "picture frame". It's a tad... I dunno.. excessive?

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After "We had noooo ideeeeaaaa that there would be soooooo much demand for it" nothing really surprises me anymore (*it* being probably the most important thing the ending should have done).

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That vid is hilarious! These two should do more standup... wait, it wasn't a comedy?

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Deltoran wrote...

The_Duke75 wrote...

Ah yes, Casey.

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Pretty much...almost everything they say at this point just disgusts me.  They thought a stupid picture (poorly done in ps) would be ok?  Wow.


It's just... No.

You know what really, REALLY p***es me off though?

If you do good by her on Rannoch, you get literally THE most perfect moment ever in the history of history for the reveal of a character to occur... But instead they ignore that and give us a photo later which carries nowhere near as much emotional impact as seeing a Quarians face when you've just helped them back into their homeworld.

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To me this is what Tali's face should have looked like.

http://nebezial.devi...in-3d-290554560

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jumpingkaede wrote...

What scares me is that if this was the final product after the revisions what was the before?


Mac told you.

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I honestly don't think he was joking...

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tfa1 wrote...

Resources may have been used to make Chobot's face rather than Tali's, but it could be worse. At least they didn't put Chobot's face on Tali. Image IPB


From Saints Row the Third

"Why you gotta put that image in my head,bro?"

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That extended cut of ME3 had better be really good. Catch my drift, BioWare?

- Let me clarify: Give Tali a proper face model and in-game reveal on Rannoch like you should have to begin with. I don't care if you have to find that model from the photo or retcon Tali's face and hire someone new.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 18 avril 2012 - 04:56 .


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Kreidian wrote...

To me this is what Tali's face should have looked like.

http://nebezial.devi...in-3d-290554560


SWEET JESUS YES

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Laurencio wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more important".


To be fair, pragmatically it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of resources, money and work on a 3D face that was supposed to only be shown for 4 seconds in a "picture frame". It's a tad... I dunno.. excessive?


A better photoshop of the same stock photo should take less than 30 minutes.  Just sayin'.  

It would've cost however much they're paying the graphic designer.  Let's say $200/hour.  So $100.

Plus whatever they're paying Casey Hudson to pore through thousands of stock photos of attractive women.  Let's say $7,000/hour.  

So yeah.  

Modifié par jumpingkaede, 18 avril 2012 - 04:54 .


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I'm just amazed and flabbergasted that these are the same people who gave us ME1.

Seriously, just what the hell happened? Last I checked, Invasion of the Body Snatchers wasn't a documentary!

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The_Duke75 wrote...

Ah yes, Casey.

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Nice.

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Mojenator12345 wrote...

The_Duke75 wrote...

Ah yes, Casey.

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Nice.



Yeah, I laughed for a minute...

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Listening to that video again, you really get a sense that everything wrong with ME3 is Casey's fault. Mac says Casey wanted the picture. "Casey even had image of how that would look on the desk." At some point, Hudson clearly went from supervising a collaboratively developed product to painting the universe the way he wanted.

Anyone get the feeling his like a goblin from HP? Everything is ultimately his so we can all go to hell. Freakin ******.

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Laurencio wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more important".


To be fair, pragmatically it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of resources, money and work on a 3D face that was supposed to only be shown for 4 seconds in a "picture frame". It's a tad... I dunno.. excessive?


Then they should have done the obvious and NOT reveal her at all. The main reason I romanced Tali was because she had something mysterious about her that made me "fall" for her. Personally I would have preferred it to stay that way. Nothing wrong with the pic, besides the failed photoshop on it, but that's not how I pictured her. In this case it would have been art if they kept her mask so the player can picture her in his/her mind.

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Anyone ever see that south park where George Lucas and Spielberg constantly rape Indiana Jones?? Same thing just substitute Casey and Mac.  Shepard for Indiana Jones of course. 

Modifié par vivaladricas, 18 avril 2012 - 05:03 .


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Idiots... They really did not understand at all, did they?

No. They know that they messed up and are giving pathetic excuses. Do you really believe that the project director is that stupid?

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the red boon wrote...

I wonder if they're also responsible for Shepard's obcession with the little boy.


lol. Shepard has seen so much death and destruction, and yet she/he becomes obssesed with that little boy. It really annoys me even if he is suppose to represent Earth, it was not a good idea. ( I mean I like the original scene when he dies, but the he is overused on the dream and on the end). 

And I can't believe that Casey and Mac actually say that they don't reveal her face in-game to keep the mystery. The face is revealed after all, so we all know how she looks like. So how is this keeping the mystery?? Just another moment when they dropped the ball. 

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Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more important".

Lol. I fully agree that Chobot looks rather awful in the game compared to real life.

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Yeah I agree with the top comment on youtube. What a total miss step. Shame they are in charge, and not other great writers like Patrick Weekes.