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Laurencio wrote...

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I think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more important".


To be fair, pragmatically it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of resources, money and work on a 3D face that was supposed to only be shown for 4 seconds in a "picture frame". It's a tad... I dunno.. excessive?


But... they spent the even more money and work on modelling characters such as Chobot's, which I took one look at and denied entry to my Normandy.

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They got Chobots face in though, thats what everyone wanted.

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Liara has 5 fingers and two t*ts.  Go ahead, break my immersion.

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That picture of Tali is WAY more immersion breaking than Liara, even in all her five-fingered, two-titted glory.

It's the hair. It's that hair. I'm just like... what? Seriously? You're giving her hair like that? I don't even... what?

Why would a species that has spent 300 years sticking its head in a helmet even have hair? Wouldn't it get really sweaty and hot and create hygiene problems?



Nah.  They probably have some cleaning protocol thing in their suits w/ Pantene.

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So...instead of doing what EVERYONE WANTED they went and did the exact opposite and created one of the laziest reveals of all time?

I really hope that this Extended Edition fixes the Tali thing and gives us a proper reveal.

It's wishful thinking, I know. However, can you blame me for thinking that they'd attempt to do their jobs?

Modifié par Aurvant, 18 avril 2012 - 05:09 .


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Xion66 wrote...

 


Posted today on reddit and uploaded on youtube.

UPDATE: Apparently this is from the Final Hours app.

They ripped off some other image. Mr. Hudson.. Head of bioware.. Liar of the first degree.

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The fact that you can justify putting the time and resources into Diana Allers and not take the time and effort for Tali is just flat out awful. AWFUL.

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Aurvant wrote...

So...instead of doing what EVERYONE WANTED they went and did the exact opposite and created one of the laziest reveals of all time?

I really hope that this Extended Edition fixes the Tali thing and gives us a proper reveal.

It's wishful thinking, I know. However, can you blame me for thinking that they'd attempt to do their jobs?


I can confirm it won't. The extended cut is just adding more stuff to Biowares crappy ending that nobody wants.(IGN will be happy though....and thats about it.)
It will pretty much be a non event. Might catch it on youtube, but won't be worth putting the disk back in the tray. It's a shame, I'm starting to resent mass effect now all because of that ending. I spent nearly 2 years replaying ME 2 because the ending always made it worth it.
I've been playing dues ex human revoultion allot latlely, I'm hoping that gets a sequel so I can get engaged in another franchise.

Modifié par eoinnx03, 18 avril 2012 - 05:15 .


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Action Bawstard wrote...

The fact that you can justify putting the time and resources into Diana Allers and not take the time and effort for Tali is just flat out awful. AWFUL.


So true. I wonder did multiplayer cause them to rush the game and make just awfull not thought out choices. I doubt it though, but how do you go from making ME 2 to the ending of ME 3 and the Tali face thing. Eugh! So sad, best thing to do is just move on.

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I wanted to see her face when she took off her mask on Rannoch. When they panned out I was like what the fuuuu----

I didn't romance her, but I still thought that would have been a beautiful reveal (especially if she jumps off a cliff afterwards, which never happened to me). If they only wanted Tali to show it to the Talimancers, they could have done a better job than that...

Keep the mystery if the writers wanted it. With the internet, people were bound to figure out it was stock photo eventually.

Modifié par GlassElephant, 18 avril 2012 - 05:18 .


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and to think allers got more dedication that tali, man there going against everything they created with ME1+2...ridiculous, there out of touch, ego maniacs who will mess up the extended cut on purpose as thats how they seem to roll.

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Action Bawstard wrote...

The fact that you can justify putting the time and resources into Diana Allers and not take the time and effort for Tali is just flat out awful. AWFUL.


Well, Tali won't guarantee support from IGN. :whistle:

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eoinnx03 wrote...

They got Chobots face in though, thats what everyone wanted.


And her other assets... Artistic Integrity!

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While I agree with some of the sentiments shared in this topic, I am afraid I have to disagree with one common opinion.

Let's be honest. There is no reason to believe Tali's face pic was done in Photoshop. That amount of work and effort could have easily been handled in Microsoft Paint.

Nonetheless, I for one am still glad to see that, through the Final Hours app, they have decided to clarify this decision without sacrificing their artistic vision. I can only hope the Extended Cut DLC is as successful and follows this model.

Modifié par Devil Mingy, 18 avril 2012 - 05:26 .


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eoinnx03 wrote...

Aurvant wrote...

So...instead of doing what EVERYONE WANTED they went and did the exact opposite and created one of the laziest reveals of all time?

I really hope that this Extended Edition fixes the Tali thing and gives us a proper reveal.

It's wishful thinking, I know. However, can you blame me for thinking that they'd attempt to do their jobs?


I can confirm it won't. The extended cut is just adding more stuff to Biowares crappy ending that nobody wants.(IGN will be happy though....and thats about it.)
It will pretty much be a non event. Might catch it on youtube, but won't be worth putting the disk back in the tray. It's a shame, I'm starting to resent mass effect now all because of that ending. I spent nearly 2 years replaying ME 2 because the ending always made it worth it.
I've been playing dues ex human revoultion allot latlely, I'm hoping that gets a sequel so I can get engaged in another franchise.



The sequel is Deus Ex...

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eoinnx03 wrote...

Action Bawstard wrote...

The fact that you can justify putting the time and resources into Diana Allers and not take the time and effort for Tali is just flat out awful. AWFUL.


So true. I wonder did multiplayer cause them to rush the game and make just awfull not thought out choices. I doubt it though, but how do you go from making ME 2 to the ending of ME 3 and the Tali face thing. Eugh! So sad, best thing to do is just move on.


Of course moving on is best. But its always so nice to just sit in stew in anger for a little while. There are many things I sit and stew in anger besides the ending at ME3. Had to replay ME2 over a few times just to remind myself how wonderful the series once was.
There were some aweome parts to ME3 (oh god the combat <3 ), but overall, ME2 was my favorite.

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Yeah...yet another reason why we haven't much of anything from these two since its release and subsequent fall-out from the "minority".

Modifié par KrazyKiko, 18 avril 2012 - 05:22 .


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That is cringing to watch.

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Master Che wrote...

They bunted that reveal!

They should have shown her face in game at that scene on Rannoch where she takes off her f******g MASK! That's a no brainer! Depending on the outcome, you would either see her with a closed eye, soft smile as she took in the air of her homeworld or you would see her beyond distraught with tears streaming down her face as she...well...you know. It would have been dramatic and in context! Instead, she gives Shepard, who's already seen her face, a PICTURE of her? That's just awkward and seemingly out of character given how she's presented as being a fairly modest person. It seems out of character for her to be posing like that for a potrait!


That would have been epic.  And perhaps tease us a little with her taking off her mask and only seeing the back of her head.  Then when we have given up then spring the reveal.

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The_Duke75 wrote...



Laurencio wrote...



Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...



I
think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a
deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more
important".




To be fair, pragmatically it doesn't make
sense to spend a lot of resources, money and work on a 3D face that was
supposed to only be shown for 4 seconds in a "picture frame". It's a
tad... I dunno.. excessive?




Then they should have
done the obvious and NOT reveal her at all. The main reason I romanced
Tali was because she had something mysterious about her that made me
"fall" for her. Personally I would have preferred it to stay that way.
Nothing wrong with the pic, besides the failed photoshop on it, but
that's not how I pictured her. In this case it would have been art if
they kept her mask so the player can picture her in his/her mind.


They tried to listen to fan feedback, which had fans pretty split in wanting to see it or not. For me that picture is about as revealing as a picture of a space hamster. It lasts for 4 seconds, and it has a different texture than any of the other pictures of character models, making it easier to flat out ignore the "reveal" as nothing more than a drawing or artistic rendering Shepard picked up.

If you don't like it, then don't accept it. It's really that simple, at least I can't really see why it wouldn't be that simple.

Mholl704 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I think what they're really trying to say is "we thought putting a deformed version of Chobot's face into the game was more important".


To be fair, pragmatically it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of resources, money and work on a 3D face that was supposed to only be shown for 4 seconds in a "picture frame". It's a tad... I dunno.. excessive?


But... they spent the even more money and work on modelling characters such as Chobot's, which I took one look at and denied entry to my Normandy.


A character who had a continued pressence in the game, including a handful of short dialogues. She had to be 3D modeled, it was part of the reason for the character. Wheter or not they could have skipped her all together and just used Emily Wong or that other woman who I would never in a million years let aboard my ship, is another story.

Even if they had done that though, Tali's limited facial exposure wouldn't have justified a 3D model.

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The top comment basically sums up how I feel. I can't believe they didnt even admit that they used Getty Images and a quick photoshop to ruin a moment we have been waiting 5 YEARS for.

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Well this is just awkward.

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They look happy with that photoshop photo. Oh my god

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Laurencio wrote...


They tried to listen to fan feedback, which had fans pretty split in wanting to see it or not. For me that picture is about as revealing as a picture of a space hamster. It lasts for 4 seconds, and it has a different texture than any of the other pictures of character models, making it easier to flat out ignore the "reveal" as nothing more than a drawing or artistic rendering Shepard picked up.

No, that's really just bullpoop.

Either you don't show it (fine), or you do it properly and model her (fine). What you don't do is put the least possible amount of effort in and still reveal her. That's the worst of both worlds.

It's not good in any reality. Please check yourself :happy:

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That video really bothers me.
They talk as if they did a good job at giving the character a image which reflects her species, they did not.
I would of preferred not to see the face at all if they decided to got a half-ass job and say yeah that's in that's how we want to picture every Quarian.

I swear it sounds almost as if they want us to believe the Protheans separated humans on two different planets and changed their evolution so now we have the Quarians and the Humans who look alike.
That would be interesting but Bioware is far too incompetent.

Modifié par The Protheans, 18 avril 2012 - 05:35 .


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Master Che wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Liara has 5 fingers and two t*ts.  Go ahead, break my immersion.

Image IPB

That picture of Tali is WAY more immersion breaking than Liara, even in all her five-fingered, two-titted glory.

It's the hair. It's that hair. I'm just like... what? Seriously? You're giving her hair like that? I don't even... what?

Why would a species that has spent 300 years sticking its head in a helmet even have hair? Wouldn't it get really sweaty and hot and create hygiene problems?



Nah.  They probably have some cleaning protocol thing in their suits w/ Pantene.

But what is the point of having hair if you're a quarian? You'll never see it. Neither will anyone else. You'll rarely brush it. It will only stay in your helmet getting matted and tangled.