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[GroverA125]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.

I'll believe it when I see it. Your word has been untrue before.

*End of Contribution*

[RiouHotaru]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Wow, this sounds...****ing terrible.

If true I'm done.

...Rob, stop it, you're not THAT gullible 

[wantedman dan]

RiouHotaru wrote...

He did come out later and confirm that he was referring to the EC when he made that post.

Of course he did, after they were verbally firebombed. He was willing to say anything to alleviate some of the pressure.

[RiouHotaru]

wantedman dan wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

He did come out later and confirm that he was referring to the EC when he made that post.

Of course he did, after they were verbally firebombed. He was willing to say anything to alleviate some of the pressure.

Considering the EC was in their DLC schedule to begin with, his statement is completely accurate.  They -were- working on something that would supposedly change our minds.

[wantedman dan]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Considering the EC was in their DLC schedule to begin with

Where have they said it was intended all along?

[phat0817]

Its BS folks Bioware said it already

[wantedman dan]

phat0817 wrote...

Its BS folks Bioware said it already

They also said we weren't going to get "endings A, B, or C," either. Look how that turned out.

[xsdob]

You guys are unbelievable, you are taking 4chans side over biowares? You'd trust the site that has spawned threads dedicated to pedophilia and torture molestation of fictional characters over someone from bioware?

Cause that's what your basically doing when you dismiss what gambles said, your pretty much saying that both of these points are equally invalid, when gamble probably has much more legitimate authority than some guy on 4chan.

[Johanna]

ImmovableMover wrote...

as if millions of wallets suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly shut.

Ahahahahahahaha!  This is the BSN I know and love.  Well played.

[xsdob]

Do I really need to post thread simulator vids here to show you just how bad 4chan can be, or screenshots?


Also, I will admit, that wallet line was pretty funny.

Modifié par xsdob, 18 avril 2012 - 07:07 .

[Bfler]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.

I hope what you say is true because such an end wouldn't satisfy me.

[wantedman dan]

xsdob wrote...

You guys are unbelievable, you are taking 4chans side over biowares? You'd trust the site that has spawned threads dedicated to pedophilia and torture molestation of fictional characters over someone from bioware?

Cause that's what your basically doing when you dismiss what gambles said, your pretty much saying that both of these points are equally invalid, when gamble probably has much more legitimate authority than some guy on 4chan.

I sincerely hope your post is not directed to me.

[phat0817]

xsdob wrote...

You guys are unbelievable, you are taking 4chans side over biowares? You'd trust the site that has spawned threads dedicated to pedophilia and torture molestation of fictional characters over someone from bioware?

Cause that's what your basically doing when you dismiss what gambles said, your pretty much saying that both of these points are equally invalid, when gamble probably has much more legitimate authority than some guy on 4chan.

^^ this is 100 percent correct....really people come on...

[sth128]

Yay more star child!

*happy dance*

Aww this was not legit EC preview

*sad face*

/sarcasm

[Daedalus1773]

count_4 wrote...

Daedalus1773 wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Daedalus1773 wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Even if this was true, you couldn't start a colony with only the several dozen people on the Normandy without bad things happening further down the road, unless Joker decided to put several hundred/thousand civilians into the hold before running like a coward. Not to mention that with chirality either everyone is dead or only Tali and Garrus are dead.

Anyway, it gets points at least for being somewhat realistic with its description of only drawing out the ending without really changing anything.

Biologically speaking, the human genome requires only 37-50 healthy adults to propogate and maintain a viable gene pool. However to your point, the further you want to go down the generational tree to have a healthy gene pool the larger the initial population you will require.

Throw alien DNA into the mix, and all bets are off.

I agree with your underlying point - it is exceptionally hard to believe that the crew we see on the Normandy would be sizeable enough to found a sustainable colony.

Make that 500 if you even want to think about starting any kind of colony. 

The number is subjective, depending on how far out you grow the generational trees.

And since we're dealing in a futuristic sci-fi universe where genetic engineering has been demonstrated to be  extremely advanced, it is theoretically possible that a diverse enough gene pool could be created from 2 individuals through direct intervention.

Not really subjective, more like a rule of thumb to keep genetic variation stable over time. But you're right, it depends on how many generations are considered.

As for the sci-fi: In a science lab maybe but with only a crashed ship and no actual scientist on-board? Unlikely.

Conjecture. Mordin would obviously be the most handy for that, but Dr. T'Soni (too bad she's an archeologist, but still very smart & long-lived) + Chakwas in a fully stocked medbay? Who knows?  Not worth arguing over in any event.

Modifié par Daedalus1773, 18 avril 2012 - 07:12 .

[darkstarxt]

-Draikin- wrote...

Cirreus wrote...
I appreciate the speed on the debunk hammer, but the "we aren't yet at a state in production" worries me.

I'd be more worried if they actually were in a state of production at this point. This is one thing they definitely don't want to rush this time around.

this

[ChampDude]

People are actually believing this? Wow

[xsdob]

wantedman dan wrote...

xsdob wrote...

You guys are unbelievable, you are taking 4chans side over biowares? You'd trust the site that has spawned threads dedicated to pedophilia and torture molestation of fictional characters over someone from bioware?

Cause that's what your basically doing when you dismiss what gambles said, your pretty much saying that both of these points are equally invalid, when gamble probably has much more legitimate authority than some guy on 4chan.

I sincerely hope your post is not directed to me.

That depends, do you think you were dismissing mike gambles post as a lie?

I know at least 3 poster who outright called him a liar, and you weren't one of them.

[The Night Mammoth]

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.

Behold! The powers that be speak to us!

[wantedman dan]

xsdob wrote...

That depends, do you think you were dismissing mike gambles post as a lie?

I know at least 3 poster who outright called him a liar, and you weren't one of them.

I was dismissing Mike Gamble, yes. See for yourself.

wantedman dan wrote...

As if I'm going to trust either of those tools; Gamble or the "art monkey."

Gamble? Give me a break. He force-fed us lies about the game up until its release, then was largely silent about the game for the MONTH following.

As for "art monkey?" 4 chan. C'mon.

Edited for accuracy.

[Ross42899]

Well, this would be a good, solid base for an EC but it would certainly not be enough. IMO the upcoming EC must definately fill some plotholes/answer open questions and not just add an epilogue. It needs both epilogue & filled plot holes/answered questions.

For example some of those questions would be:

- Why is Joker escaping with Normandy at all and not fighting against the Reapers?
- Why are my London squadmates suddenly on board the Normandy?
- Why does starchild look exactly like the little boy from the begining?
- Why can Anderson reach the Citadel control room before Shepard, if he followed him and there is no other way than Shepard's to the control room?
- What will happen with the fleets (stucked?) at earth?
- Is FTL travel still be possible without mass relays?
- Did some inhabitants of the Citadel survive?
- can galactic community/economy, etc. be re-established?

and more questions like this.

[Computron2000]

xsdob wrote...

You guys are unbelievable, you are taking 4chans side over biowares? You'd trust the site that has spawned threads dedicated to pedophilia and torture molestation of fictional characters over someone from bioware?

Cause that's what your basically doing when you dismiss what gambles said, your pretty much saying that both of these points are equally invalid, when gamble probably has much more legitimate authority than some guy on 4chan.

Do keep in mind that authority does not mean truth. For example, remember that Iraqi minster that said things like everything is perfectly fine? I would suspect he is supposed to be an authority on what was going on...

Each information source is independent. If one is untrue, it does not mean the other is automatically true when both do not specifically refer to the same point.

An example of when they both refer specifically to the same point.
Jack says Shepard is a man. Miranda says Shepard is a woman. This is in the same game so only one can be correct

Now let us look at when both do not refer to the same point
Jack says Shepard is a man. Miranda says Jack is lying because Jack is blind. Now both can be liars because Shepard is a woman and Jack is not blind.

[xsdob]

wantedman dan wrote...

xsdob wrote...

That depends, do you think you were dismissing mike gambles post as a lie?

I know at least 3 poster who outright called him a liar, and you weren't one of them.

I was dismissing Mike Gamble, yes. See for yourself.

wantedman dan wrote...

As if I'm going to trust either of those tools; Gamble or the "art monkey."

Gamble? Give me a break. He force-fed us lies about the game up until its release, then was largely silent about the game for the MONTH following.

As for "art monkey?" 4 chan. C'mon.

Edited for accuracy.

That's pretty bad, but not this bad.

"I don't believe anything out of 4chan myself, but bioware is full of known liars. Your boss Casey Hudson is a huge liar. This is fact. So while 4chan is full of it, no offense, but so are a lot of bioware people. They say one thing, and something different happens."

"Trusted you once, won't do so again."

"Multiplayer DLC was from the same source, so..."


Oh, and that guy who just compared bioware to the iraqi goverment.

You know, because an unstable and corrupt goverment where assassinations appear to be a way of winning elections and a company trying to fix it's mistakes are so very much alike. <_<

Modifié par xsdob, 18 avril 2012 - 07:22 .

[sth128]

darkstarxt wrote...

-Draikin- wrote...

I'd be more worried if they actually were in a state of production at this point. This is one thing they definitely don't want to rush this time around.

this

The due date was the day I paid for and installed the game (well release date since I pre-ordered). Every single day Bioware takes I'm taking 10% off the final mark. Right now ME3 ranks -420%.

Oh and the final was 52% of term mark, which means the EC has to be the equivalent of 10 perfect games to get a mark of zero.

[liggy002]

bigbade wrote...

hope it's not true, that doesn't sound much better.

And if that's it, I'm done with this crap.  Unless, they are keeping the destroy ending as is and making an IT DLC expansion.

Modifié par liggy002, 18 avril 2012 - 07:23 .