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Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.

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Vasparian wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


I don't believe anything out of 4chan myself, but bioware is full of known liars. Your boss Casey Hudson is a huge liar. This is fact. So while 4chan is full of it, no offense, but so are a lot of bioware people. They say one thing, and something different happens.

 This

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Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.

+1 Amen

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Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenario sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until such time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.


Quoted for troofz.

It's already gone on record that Casey and Mac's horribad ending will stand, and that the REApers don't give two licks what we fans think of it because Casey's ego and gross overestimation of his and Mac's "prowess" as writers >>>>>> fan satisfaction.

Until I see otherwise, I'm just going to assume that the promised DLC is nothing but a metric boatload of slides and cutscenes that boil down to "your choices didn't matter, the Starchild pwns all".

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Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.


Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...

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Of all the things to troll about, why must /vg/ persist in spitting out crap about ME3?

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Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


Thanks man! I feel better already... :D

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MrAtomica wrote...

Of all the things to troll about, why must /vg/ persist in spitting out crap about ME3?


Because its easy

Modifié par Kanon777, 18 avril 2012 - 08:29 .


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Kanon777 wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.


Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...


No, he should say nothing, unless it is a press release stating that Hudson has been fired.

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Wow...and people wonder why the ME devs rarely if ever say anything here >_>

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Kanon777 wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.



Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...

 
Maybe because they misrepresented their product & lied to their consumer base.That doesn't  merit any communication?If they can't show any of their famous "integrity" when it comes to being accountable for their words and actions then maybe you're right and it is pointless.

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Wow.. once again..

Stay classy, BSN, stay classy.

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Ubergrog wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.


Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...


No, he should say nothing, unless it is a press release stating that Hudson has been fired.


I just hope he dosent listen to people like you and starts talking more wih community 

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Sounds mildly better in that it provides closure and atleast allows you to challenge Starkid as he makes you betray all your values.

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niteight wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.



Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...

 
Maybe because they misrepresented their product & lied to their consumer base.That doesn't  merit any communication?If they can't show any of their famous "integrity" when it comes to being accountable for their words and actions then maybe you're right and it is pointless.


He said nothing that would merit this type of treatment here, all he did was a comment of the production state of the EC. Why do you guys jump to call him a liar over such a trivial matter? He has no reason to lie about that.

All im seeing here is alot of emotional response instead of rational behaviour, you guys are sabotaging our relations with the devs by acting like this, and then youll complain bout how evil the devs are for not having a dialogue with the "community"...

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Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.

This post is in the highest order of truthy truth. 

Bioware, you rustled my jimmies extemely hard in the last month. I am hesitant to let you care for my jimmies once more. 

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Ubergrog wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.


Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...


No, he should say nothing, unless it is a press release stating that Hudson has been fired.


Yet there are piles of people complaining that no one is communicating with them. Way to be the example of the reason why.

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Avissel wrote...

Wow...and people wonder why the ME devs rarely if ever say anything here >_>


... No kidding.

Lots of people are thankful for anything Bioware has to say. Not every single thing has turned out to be false. Yes, some of it has (actually, a lot), but I'd rather have some communication back and forth rather than none.

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I don't think we need any more evidence as to why ME involved Bioware employees don't comment on topics here than the reaction to said comment in this thread. My word.

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Kanon777 wrote...


All im seeing here is alot of emotional response instead of rational behaviour, you guys are sabotaging our relations with the devs by acting like this, and then youll complain bout how evil the devs are for not having a dialogue with the "community"...


Then Bioware/EA shouldn't have lied to us in the first place.

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Thanks for commenting Mr. Gamble! It's nice to get some official word on things like this.

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oblique9 wrote...

Avissel wrote...

Wow...and people wonder why the ME devs rarely if ever say anything here >_>


... No kidding.

Lots of people are thankful for anything Bioware has to say. Not every single thing has turned out to be false. Yes, some of it has (actually, a lot), but I'd rather have some communication back and forth rather than none.




Such is the problem that the Dev's themselves created.  They (Gamble, Husdson) had shattered the trust of a fanbase that a couple of months ago would only sing their praises and support.  Make no mistake, the fanbase's reaction is a consequence of Bioware's actions.  Trust is a fragile thing, and not easily restored.  And that is a good thing, to be honest.  If a pass is given, we will just be lied to again.

As for me, I HOPE he is telling the truth.  But I know by his previous statements he is a liar, so the "source" those statements come from hold as much credit as Gamble (or most anyone on Bioware's staff) does.  That is, not much.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.

This post is in the highest order of truthy truth. 

Bioware, you rustled my jimmies extemely hard in the last month. I am hesitant to let you care for my jimmies once more. 

Believe 4chan then lol

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Phew Mike gameble saved the day

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Kanon777 wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

Don't worry. This is not legit. In fact, we aren't yet at a state in production where mr "art monkey" could even see what he is describing.


How are we supposed to believe you? The described scenareo sounds exactly like something the fools who made the current ending would do.

Why am I so skeptical? These same people lied to the fans, we have recorded and timestamped moments of direct (and BBB certified) dishonesty to the consumer...

Your company LIED to us, and you have done nothing to rebuild support with your players. Until shuch time as you give me a reason, I will assume the worst.


Why should he say anything then? No matter what he says from now on youll acuse him of being a liar. There is no point in communicating with people like you...


@Gamble: Thank you for communicating with us, and thank you for taking the time to definitively refute this 'leak'. I wish Bioware would talk more. Additional communication with us angry fans would really help us simmer down.

@Ubergrog: I agree with you, and I understand why you're angry (I'm angry too), but I think you're just a little too ureasonable in your hate. Bioware's response to this whole mess has seriously hurt my trust in them. There have been a lot of lies thrown around, but all of them were either resonably early in dev (thus they could have been truth at the time) or done by Bioware's PR and spoken by a representative in some official capacity. Gamgle is here as an actual person, so I have no reason to distrust him.

@Kanon77: That's probably the reason Bioware's been so silent lately; they're afraid of having rage directed at them. However, I think that the best solution to reduce the fan outrage at this point is to talk anyways. They'd get flamed heavily at first, but it'd go a long way with repairing relations.

Modifié par KillerHappyFace, 18 avril 2012 - 09:04 .