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[GeneralBacon339]

Morrigen was an awesome character!  Aside from being the only character in DA1 to have a unique default look...  She had that Comical Bad girl personality!  Would like to see Morrigen Mature since DA1, perhaps raising a child has given her a better sense of responsibility.

Much like JACK's Changes between ME2 and ME3 THAT was impressive! 

[the_one_54321]

No.

Frankly, after DAII I don't trust them to reintroduce old NPCs.

[Asch Lavigne]

Morrigan with an "a".

As a Morrigan fan if they bring her back (in any capacity) it better mean something to the story, not just fanservice.

Jack's change was ridiculous. I found her ME3 role as completely unbelievable for her character.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 18 avril 2012 - 05:15 .

[cJohnOne]

Do you really want a mother to be a companion. Morrigan would be changed from how she was in DAO wouldn't she? How would she get the hero to help her in getting her objectives? I do want Morrigan to return but am unsure about her role.

[Dakota Strider]

I really enjoyed the Morrigan character, and it would be nice if she had a large role in DA3. However, I would also want to play my Warden who went running after her and their kid. And I really doubt Bioware is going to let us play the Warden again, at least not in any meaningful way (and I doubt that it will happen at all). So, probably the best we can hope for, is some real brief scenes with her, and if those of us that had our ranger romance her are lucky, we will hear her say as she departs, "Time to get back to the hubby."

Modifié par Dakota Strider, 18 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[deuce985]

I want Morrigan, Allistair and Leliana back.

Leliana seems like a logical choice in the war effort...

And I have no idea how they're going to tie a plotline in with Morrigan/Flemeth when the world is at war. Maybe it was Flemeth's plan all along.

Something I wondered about Flemeth though...did she appear in DA2 after I killed her in DA:O? I don't think it really specifies(or I think)...because Lothering is getting destroyed. Flemeth did hint that Morrigan just left with the Wardens in DA2...so it would seem as though I didn't kill her yet?

Just started again to refresh my memory on the story.

Modifié par deuce985, 18 avril 2012 - 06:35 .

[CarlSpackler]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Morrigan with an "a".

As a Morrigan fan if they bring her back (in any capacity) it better mean something to the story, not just fanservice.

Jack's change was ridiculous. I found her ME3 role as completely unbelievable for her character.

I found Jack's behaviour in M3 perfectly reasonable, and I very much enjoyed the scenes with Jack.  I just disliked that in ME2 you couldn't really get to know/encourage Jack unless you romanced her.  There was no friendship path like we had in DAO, an excellect addition IMO.

As for Morrigan, I agree I don't want to see Morrigan in a cameo.  She was the face of DAO for a long time before the game was even released.  Her character cast a pretty wide shadow over the DA game world and it was noticeable to me in DA2. 

I have mixed feelings about her returning as a companion though.  On one hand I enjoyed the character immensley (aside from a couple gripes about some aprove/disaprove moments and a bothersome character growth moment) and would love to spend more time with this character.  On the other, I see her so clearly as the companion of the hero of fereldan and integral to those events and those people that I can't see her tagging along with Hero #3 in the DA world for another quest, no matter how awesome hero#3 may eventually be.

Modifié par CarlSpackler, 18 avril 2012 - 06:41 .

[Dakota Strider]

deuce985 wrote...

Something I wondered about Flemeth though...did she appear in DA2 after I killed her in DA:O? I don't think it really specifies(or I think)...because Lothering is getting destroyed. Flemeth did hint that Morrigan just left with the Wardens in DA2...so it would seem as though I didn't kill her yet?

I cannot remember exactly how it was worded, but you received some foreshadow after "killing" Flemeth in DAO, that it was probably not the end of her.  I believe Morrigan actually said she expected that Flemeth would return, but Morrigan would be stronger, and ready for her.

[deuce985]

Dakota Strider wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Something I wondered about Flemeth though...did she appear in DA2 after I killed her in DA:O? I don't think it really specifies(or I think)...because Lothering is getting destroyed. Flemeth did hint that Morrigan just left with the Wardens in DA2...so it would seem as though I didn't kill her yet?

I cannot remember exactly how it was worded, but you received some foreshadow after "killing" Flemeth in DAO, that it was probably not the end of her.  I believe Morrigan actually said she expected that Flemeth would return, but Morrigan would be stronger, and ready for her.

Oh yea, I remember that. So yea, she definitely can't be killed that easy.

[King Cousland]

<Sten voice> No.

Morrigan is one of my favourite characters, if not the favourite after Flemeth, but she'd do much better as an NPC from now on. Her purpose in DA:O as a companion worked well, and was weaved in with the plot. But, like Alistair, she's better as a plot device now since she seems to have an over-arcing role in the series. I'm not sure how to articulate this properly, but having her as a companion would make her seem...unimportant, at least in my eyes. Morrigan would serve a better purpose as a leader, now, not a follower.

[Uccio]

If Morrigan returns then my Warden has to come back too, after all they are a pair rasing happily their god child.

[Curlain]

the_one_54321 wrote...

No.

Frankly, after DAII I don't trust them to reintroduce old NPCs.

I'd have to agree with this, particularly with talk of a voiced Warden circling around.  Also to many variables now exist with Morrigan, is she in love with the Warden or not, are they together or not, (are they allies at all or enemies), did the Dark Ritual happen etc and so forth.  With their recent trip ups in both DA2 (in terms of making sure player choice was carried over into DA2) and ME3 by all accounts by largely invalidating choice and conscequences.  I think BioWare would be smarter to leave the rage bomb now inherent with Morrigan well alone (as far as I'm concerned, she's gone through the Eluvian to another realm with my main Warden, and that's it.  I don't think I want to see what DA3 would do with her)

[TheJediSaint]

Though I would like to see Morrigan again, I'd rather see her fill in as a younger, hotter version of Flemeth. Essentially, the player would have no idea if she's really an ally or an enemy until the end of her involvement.

[MagmaSaiyan]

Dakota Strider wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Something I wondered about Flemeth though...did she appear in DA2 after I killed her in DA:O? I don't think it really specifies(or I think)...because Lothering is getting destroyed. Flemeth did hint that Morrigan just left with the Wardens in DA2...so it would seem as though I didn't kill her yet?

I cannot remember exactly how it was worded, but you received some foreshadow after "killing" Flemeth in DAO, that it was probably not the end of her.  I believe Morrigan actually said she expected that Flemeth would return, but Morrigan would be stronger, and ready for her.

DA2 takes place just after/during the destruction of lothering, which by that time Warden and the group have already gone past, unless you do the friendship glitch with Morrigan, and she places a piece of herself in an amulet therefore, thats why she is still alive

[Brockololly]

the_one_54321 wrote...

No.

Frankly, after DAII I don't trust them to reintroduce old NPCs.

This.

Leave old NPCs alone, especially LIs. If we're playing as a new PC, I want new NPCs. Don't dredge up old NPCs only to handwave away the effects old PC's had on them or by radically changing them to the point they may as well be a new character if we're not going to be able to see that character development on screen and through the POV of the old PC.

Because unless BioWare seriously invests in meaningful unique content to show the diverging consequences of the Warden's effect on Morrigan, her showing up again will more than likely only end up being one big handwavey, one sized fits all moment. And playing as a new PC, any consequences won't even feel as significant as if you were the Warden dealing with them, since the Warden is the one who made the choices and has a relationship with Morrigan, for good or ill.

TheJediSaint wrote...

Though I would like to see Morrigan
again, I'd rather see her fill in as a younger, hotter version of
Flemeth. Essentially, the player would have no idea if she's really an
ally or an enemy until the end of her involvement.

Eh...no. Whats the point of bringing back Morrigan if you're not even going to recognize her as Morrigan? Just some "Oh, what a twist!" moment at the end? Granted, I wouldn't be surprised if thats what happens- some sort of Gandalf the White type moment or not unlike what they did with Anders in DA2 where from the onset he's mostly a completely different character than the one you last saw in Awakening. And that disconnect is compounded by playing as a new PC who has no prior relationship with Anders or Morrigan anyway.

Modifié par Brockololly, 18 avril 2012 - 10:58 .

[seraphymon]

deuce985 wrote...
Something I wondered about Flemeth though...did she appear in DA2 after I killed her in DA:O? I don't think it really specifies(or I think)...because Lothering is getting destroyed. Flemeth did hint that Morrigan just left with the Wardens in DA2...so it would seem as though I didn't kill her yet?

Whne first meeting her, she just barely helped the warden. After meeting her nextime in the mountains, is pulled a voldemort on an object, to help bring her back to life. In which Morrigan also knows in witch hunt that she has tricked her way past death.

[Quett]

Nope. My Warden went with Morrigan into the mirror in Witch Hunt, I don't know why Morrigan would be running around adventuring in DA3. I'm pretty sure my Warden isn't the stay-at-home dad type.

A Cameo is fine I suppose, so long as though don't ruin anything. That said, it'd be better to just not have her in it at all.

[Leon481]

I'm on the fence. On the one hand, she seems like she has a greater purpose now than to just help some adventurer's party along. On the other hand, her having a personal relationship with the new MC would add an extra amount of dramatic element to her story when it finally comes to fruition. It's a hard choice to make.

She definitely needs to come back either way though, even if it's just to give the player some clues before she disappears forever. I'm actually of the opinion that it might be too soon in the series for that, but it depends on how soon and in what manner Bioware decides to move along the Flemeth storyline. They have already added a new thread to it in the comic storyline, so maybe it could move along faster than we thought.

[Xeyska]

the_one_54321 wrote...

No.

Frankly, after DAII I don't trust them to reintroduce old NPCs.

This.

I wouldn't mind a cameo if they do it right, but no otherwise.

Modifié par Xeyska, 18 avril 2012 - 11:24 .

[Who is that Masked Man]

Yes, bring back Morrigan.

Her story was left unfinished. We've been promised answers for a long time, and I want them, dammit.

Oh, but party member? No. It just wouldn't be the same.

Modifié par Who is that Masked Man, 18 avril 2012 - 11:32 .

[Anvos]

No

Or maybe if there is scences of your warden based on their relationship, such as the male Cousland who romanced her yet didn't do the ritual bringing the entirety of Highever's rebuilt army to force her to tell him where their nongod baby child is and to try and get her to come back home.

Modifié par Anvos, 19 avril 2012 - 12:26 .

[Emzamination]

I would love to have morrigan back as a companion so I can ask her questions about my warden and the child but something tells me the events of Da3 are going to center heavily around her so I don't see the "permanent" companion option happening.If she was to come back as a companion I would not want her to be flagged as a romance "if" she was in a relationship with my warden, thats spitting in my warden's face and disrespectful.

[Dakota Strider]

I just hope that they are considering Witchhunt to be canon for the campaign. And if they allow your decision there to have an affect on Morrigan in DA3. Wonder what % of people that played that, went with Morrigan through the Eluvian....and how many tried to add an extra breathing hole for her with a bit of steel. Either they give custom Morrigan content for each group...or they decide one of those two decisions were invalid, and just have Morrigan appear based on one particular plot path.

If Bioware does not allow for more than one particular plot path with Morrigan in DA3... for me, and I know many others will be very upset if it is not the one where she and The Warden are together again. Though, I recall there used to be a lot of people that claimed to have hated Morrigan, so I am sure a large number would be upset with that conclusion as well.

Hard for Bioware to win here. I hope they are up to the task of doing what it takes to please most of the fans. It would probably require a lot more game hours, role play paths, and storylines than their recent games have provided. But, perhaps they will revert back to the old Bioware, that won them the huge fanbase they have now.

[Aldaris951]

I remember reading somewhere david gaider said that they are having issues having correct imports, So its more than likely they wont import witchhunt choices, False advertisement ftw.