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[Nuchy]

 Covenant would easily win, their plasma weapons are like 20 times stronger than the Reapers.

[survivor_686]

Too bad the Reapers would brainwash the whole lot of them.

[GigaTheToast]

You got it wrong, in comparison to the Halo series the Covenant would be the protheans, and the Reapers would be the Flood.

But to be fair, I think the Covvies could stand a decent chance at stopping the reapers by strength alone, they've pretty much jury-rigged every known species for galactic war. Plus they have super weapons.

Of course they'd probably go the same way as the protheans for the same reasons.

[crimzontearz]

1 indoctrinated prophet.....bye bye covenant

[tractrpl]

The very fact that humanity was able to hold its own against the covenant leads me to believe that they wouldn't have stood a chance against the Reapers. The flood, however, operates on a similar level. Both take control over the bodies of organics. The question is if the flood can "hack" the organic components of Reaper starships. If they can, then the Reapers would be effed. If not, then the flood would be effed.

[Nobrandminda]

Did anyone else think the Flood were a really unconvincing threat in Halo? I mean, they're basically just zombies who are smart enough to use guns. Yeah, Halo 3 introduced a couple new variants, but still.

It doesn't help that all of the Halo games get significantly easier at the point that the flood (and the shotgun) are introduced.

The flood are little more than husks, but that was enough to give the covenant trouble. Imagine if they were backed up by Reaper capital ships. Wouldn't end well.

[Lookout1390]

Takes 1 reaper to indoctrinate a covenant higher-archy figure.

Civil war erupts

Reapers just swoop in and clean up the remainder.

[Faded-Myth]

The one thing Reapers have over the Covenant is time. Pre-ME3 Reapers would just indoctrinate them slowly over a long period. Infiltrate their prophets, who are some of the weakest-minded and shallow leaders I've seen in a science-fiction for a while. We already know how willing they are to jump on superstition and manipulate entire races. They'd be the perfect puppets for the Reapers.

Post-ME3? Space Child would probably just have a fit and claim the Covenant are breaking his ridiculous rules. Cortana would wipe the floor with him. Reapers disabled. Like Shepard should have done.

[Coldsniper1]

Giga I think you had it mostly right with your first point.

The Covenant are almost exactly like the Protheans enforcing a unified doctrine across their Empire; THIS is how you fight in Space and THIS is how you fight on the ground. So limited in fact that the UNSC Marines, a vastly inferior force, were able to beat them in ground warfare (or at least delay)

They would respond the same way to a Reaper threat and attrition would set in with an ultimate Reaper victory.

'For every harvested Covenant Warrior there are two casualties; the converted warrior and his buddy who can't pull the trigger on a friend'

[DarkWyccan]

The Reapers already took out the Forerunners who built the Halo weapons, that is why they are all gone and only the Halos remain.

[An English Gamer]

 The covenants cruisers are about the size of a Reaper. The Assault carriers are about 2.5 times the size. And the supercarriers are over 20 times the size at around 27km. Add on that plasma is unaffected by shields and that their fleet dwarfs the Reapers. They could probably win.
Also to the people who argue that humanity held them back: the covenant reduced humanity from dozens of colonies to just Earth. Killing over 23 Billion people and still going strong.

[liggy002]

Reapers = Flood = Lambent

[NovaM4]

Reapers will win. Because if they Indoctrinate even one Prophet.. The covenant is no more..

[Flammenpanzer]

Nuchy wrote...

 Covenant would easily win, their plasma weapons are like 20 times stronger than the Reapers.

Turns out the Reapers have a V.I kid controlling them, so yeah....I'd say Covenant win.

[Dalorm]

An English Gamer wrote...

 The covenants cruisers are about the size of a Reaper. The Assault carriers are about 2.5 times the size. And the supercarriers are over 20 times the size at around 27km. Add on that plasma is unaffected by shields and that their fleet dwarfs the Reapers. They could probably win.
Also to the people who argue that humanity held them back: the covenant reduced humanity from dozens of colonies to just Earth. Killing over 23 Billion people and still going strong.

Uh basically humans were dead. The Covenant landed on earth and were cleaning house when the Brutes started civil war and the Elites joined the Humans and pushed the Brutes and Flood off of Earth and back into what ever hole they climbed out of. Elites = Badass.

[Liber320]

Reapers = super intelligent Flood with advanced weaponry and brainwashing abilitites

They would wreak havoc on any species/collective that relies on blindly following religious zealots (Prophets)

[Stygian1]

liggy002 wrote...

Reapers > Flood > Lambent

Fixed. 

[Dalorm]

NovaM4 wrote...

Reapers will win. Because if they Indoctrinate even one Prophet.. The covenant is no more..

If you read the books the Prophet/Elite relationship wasnt that great to begin with and we saw in the games how a Prophet went insane basically and the Elites were first to jump ship and took a good amount of the Covenant fleet with them i.e some Grunts, Hunters and Jackals. Basically the Brutes were the only 100% devoted faction along with the Swarmer race.

[Stygian1]

Dalorm wrote...

NovaM4 wrote...

Reapers will win. Because if they Indoctrinate even one Prophet.. The covenant is no more..

If you read the books the Prophet/Elite relationship wasnt that great to begin with and we saw in the games how a Prophet went insane basically and the Elites were first to jump ship and took a good amount of the Covenant fleet with them i.e some Grunts, Hunters and Jackals. Basically the Brutes were the only 100% devoted faction along with the Swarmer race.

Were the swarmers even sentient? I always thought they were "dronish."

But, I'm not very good with Halo lore.

You have a good point though, I think the elites would be able to see the indocrination occuring and be able to react to it instead of blindly following their prophets in the sun or something. 

Overall though, indoctrination is probably the Reaper's best hope at defeating the covenant. 

[razor150]

tractrpl wrote...

The very fact that humanity was able to hold its own against the covenant leads me to believe that they wouldn't have stood a chance against the Reapers. The flood, however, operates on a similar level. Both take control over the bodies of organics. The question is if the flood can "hack" the organic components of Reaper starships. If they can, then the Reapers would be effed. If not, then the flood would be effed.

humanity also had more effective weaponry for there ships in Halo, and fighting units like the Spartan, but even then there ships were over watched be Covenant vessels by a pretty wide margin. 

It really is hard to say though without being able to translate the effective strength of the Reapers and Covenant when compared to each other. In my opinion the Reapers have the advantage in pure power.

[Dalorm]

A more interesting battle than Reapers vs Covenant would probably be Reapers vs Gravemind Stage Flood. It would basically be a race to infect the galaxy. It would be interesting to see if the Flood had the shear brute force numbers to down a reaper destroyer in ground combat.

[razor150]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Did anyone else think the Flood were a really unconvincing threat in Halo? I mean, they're basically just zombies who are smart enough to use guns. Yeah, Halo 3 introduced a couple new variants, but still.

It doesn't help that all of the Halo games get significantly easier at the point that the flood (and the shotgun) are introduced.

The flood are little more than husks, but that was enough to give the covenant trouble. Imagine if they were backed up by Reaper capital ships. Wouldn't end well.

From Halo 1, 2 and 3 the Flood can "hack" ships, and Gravemind had control over a monitor in 2. The problem is getting a flood form in position to actually hack a Reaper ship. I don't think the Flood would stand a chance against the Reapers, because the Flood's advantages against organics no longer exist against the Reapers.

[Dark_Caduceus]

A straight up fight is the Reapers getting stomped out of oblivion.

With indoctrination it really depends; much like the ME races the Covenant appear quite dependent on alien technology they don;t really understand so indoctrination will likely be very dangerous.

Would be interesting.

Of course, indoctrination tends to effective against influential leaders in politics and science who seek new technology or power(or are just desperate against the power of the Reapers).

If the Reapers faced an enemy that basically said "We can crush you in naval and ground combat, good luck indoctrinating someone important" then things could be quite problematic indeed for the Reapers.

[Dalorm]

Stygian1 wrote...

Dalorm wrote...

NovaM4 wrote...

Reapers will win. Because if they Indoctrinate even one Prophet.. The covenant is no more..

If you read the books the Prophet/Elite relationship wasnt that great to begin with and we saw in the games how a Prophet went insane basically and the Elites were first to jump ship and took a good amount of the Covenant fleet with them i.e some Grunts, Hunters and Jackals. Basically the Brutes were the only 100% devoted faction along with the Swarmer race.

Were the swarmers even sentient? I always thought they were "dronish."

But, I'm not very good with Halo lore.

You have a good point though, I think the elites would be able to see the indocrination occuring and be able to react to it instead of blindly following their prophets in the sun or something. 

Overall though, indoctrination is probably the Reaper's best hope at defeating the covenant. 

From my understanding they were sentient but still very heavily relied on a hive perpective. Kinda like the Geth. The more in one place the smarter they get because they depend on each other to share the data collected from each individual.