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[o Ventus]

Anti-killer wrote...

Covenant slipspace can do 312 LY a day IIRC

That's slipspace, not conventional FTL flight.

[Anti-killer]

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Covenant slipspace can do 312 LY a day IIRC

That's slipspace, not conventional FTL flight.

Slipspace is the only FTL Halo has.

not like it actually matters. Covenant have far superior FTL speed,

[Nicksta92]

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Reaper's weapons are far inferior to those of the Covenant. The Reaper shields are far inferior to those of the Covenant. And there are a lot more Covenant ships than Reapers.

Covenant would curb stomp the Reapers.

The bolded part is a fallacy.

Again, there are AT LEAST 20,000 Capital Ships (1 billion / 50,000). 1 Capital Ship is manufactured per harvest (IIRC), while every other species is made into Destroyers. Nobody knows how old the Reapers are, let alone what their exact numbers are.

True, I misremembered my numbers. There are likely more Reaper Capital ships than Covenant. I apologize.

But since the Covenant ships are far superior to the Reapers in every conceivable way, I'm not sure what difference it makes.

Do you play StarCraft?

Do you know what the Zerg rush is?

He doesn't seem to know what a Zerg rush is...hence he will be, where is the word he used, "curbstomped".  I didn't play all the Halo's but did humanity win by sheer force?  Or did they use a crucible-like cheating device?  If they did the former, Covenant automatically loses

[Anti-killer]

Nicksta92 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Reaper's weapons are far inferior to those of the Covenant. The Reaper shields are far inferior to those of the Covenant. And there are a lot more Covenant ships than Reapers.

Covenant would curb stomp the Reapers.

The bolded part is a fallacy.

Again, there are AT LEAST 20,000 Capital Ships (1 billion / 50,000). 1 Capital Ship is manufactured per harvest (IIRC), while every other species is made into Destroyers. Nobody knows how old the Reapers are, let alone what their exact numbers are.

True, I misremembered my numbers. There are likely more Reaper Capital ships than Covenant. I apologize.

But since the Covenant ships are far superior to the Reapers in every conceivable way, I'm not sure what difference it makes.

Do you play StarCraft?

Do you know what the Zerg rush is?

He doesn't seem to know what a Zerg rush is...hence he will be, where is the word he used, "curbstomped".  I didn't play all the Halo's but did humanity win by sheer force?  Or did they use a crucible-like cheating device?  If they did the former, Covenant automatically loses

The Covenant went into Civil war, and lost not only their best commanders(The Sangheili), but also a ton of ships. and even then, they were still destroying Humanity

[111987]

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Reaper's weapons are far inferior to those of the Covenant. The Reaper shields are far inferior to those of the Covenant. And there are a lot more Covenant ships than Reapers.

Covenant would curb stomp the Reapers.

The bolded part is a fallacy.

Again, there are AT LEAST 20,000 Capital Ships (1 billion / 50,000). 1 Capital Ship is manufactured per harvest (IIRC), while every other species is made into Destroyers. Nobody knows how old the Reapers are, let alone what their exact numbers are.

True, I misremembered my numbers. There are likely more Reaper Capital ships than Covenant. I apologize.

But since the Covenant ships are far superior to the Reapers in every conceivable way, I'm not sure what difference it makes.

Do you play StarCraft?

Do you know what the Zerg rush is?

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

[111987]

Nicksta92 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

The Reaper's weapons are far inferior to those of the Covenant. The Reaper shields are far inferior to those of the Covenant. And there are a lot more Covenant ships than Reapers.

Covenant would curb stomp the Reapers.

The bolded part is a fallacy.

Again, there are AT LEAST 20,000 Capital Ships (1 billion / 50,000). 1 Capital Ship is manufactured per harvest (IIRC), while every other species is made into Destroyers. Nobody knows how old the Reapers are, let alone what their exact numbers are.

True, I misremembered my numbers. There are likely more Reaper Capital ships than Covenant. I apologize.

But since the Covenant ships are far superior to the Reapers in every conceivable way, I'm not sure what difference it makes.

Do you play StarCraft?

Do you know what the Zerg rush is?

He doesn't seem to know what a Zerg rush is...hence he will be, where is the word he used, "curbstomped".  I didn't play all the Halo's but did humanity win by sheer force?  Or did they use a crucible-like cheating device?  If they did the former, Covenant automatically loses

No, the humans were getting annihilated and would have been if not for the Flood and a civil war destroying the Covenant from within (and their crazy religious fervor).

[o Ventus]

Anti-killer wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Covenant slipspace can do 312 LY a day IIRC

That's slipspace, not conventional FTL flight.

Slipspace is the only FTL Halo has.

not like it actually matters. Covenant have far superior FTL speed,

Then why bother making a comparison?

Conventional FTL equates to "flying REALLY fast". Slipspace vs. mass relay is a better comparison.

[Anti-killer]

If you guys want the Covenant to get even meaner, they have the Forerunner dreadnaught. stiff a few Covenant weapons on it, and it'll joyride through the Reapers

[Anti-killer]

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Covenant slipspace can do 312 LY a day IIRC

That's slipspace, not conventional FTL flight.

Slipspace is the only FTL Halo has.

not like it actually matters. Covenant have far superior FTL speed,

Then why bother making a comparison?

Conventional FTL equates to "flying REALLY fast". Slipspace vs. mass relay is a better comparison.

indeed.

a Mass relay is much faster. don't even compare them.

[o Ventus]

111987 wrote...

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

Sovereign didn't just have its shields down. It was more or less unconscious (See: completely defenseless, not jsut left without shields) after Saren was killed.

Actually, cardiac arrest is probably a closer analogue than just going unconscious.

[crimzontearz]

The infinity is the size of two capital ship reapers and likely has a supermac......sooooooooo

[111987]

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

Sovereign didn't just have its shields down. It was more or less unconscious (See: completely defenseless, not jsut left without shields) after Saren was killed.

Actually, cardiac arrest is probably a closer analogue than just going unconscious.

What are you saying, that Sovereign's deactivation somehow weakened the integrity of its armor?

Come on. the torpedo goes straight through it, and it explodes.

[Lili_oups]

 stupid thread

the reapers would rape the covenants easily

assuming control end of story

[o Ventus]

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

Sovereign didn't just have its shields down. It was more or less unconscious (See: completely defenseless, not jsut left without shields) after Saren was killed.

Actually, cardiac arrest is probably a closer analogue than just going unconscious.

What are you saying, that Sovereign's deactivation somehow weakened the integrity of its armor?

Come on. the torpedo goes straight through it, and it explodes.

No, I'm saying that Sovereign is floating there, immobilized and taking fire from hundreds of other ships at the same time.

[Anti-killer]

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

Sovereign didn't just have its shields down. It was more or less unconscious (See: completely defenseless, not jsut left without shields) after Saren was killed.

Actually, cardiac arrest is probably a closer analogue than just going unconscious.

What are you saying, that Sovereign's deactivation somehow weakened the integrity of its armor?

Come on. the torpedo goes straight through it, and it explodes.

No, I'm saying that Sovereign is floating there, immobilized and taking fire from hundreds of other ships at the same time.

Sovereign destroyed most of the ships.

even then, it wasn't "Hundreds of ships"

[111987]

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

Sovereign didn't just have its shields down. It was more or less unconscious (See: completely defenseless, not jsut left without shields) after Saren was killed.

Actually, cardiac arrest is probably a closer analogue than just going unconscious.

What are you saying, that Sovereign's deactivation somehow weakened the integrity of its armor?

Come on. the torpedo goes straight through it, and it explodes.

No, I'm saying that Sovereign is floating there, immobilized and taking fire from hundreds of other ships at the same time.

There were not 'hundreds of other ships'. But in any case, it's the disruptor torpedo from the Normandy that is what causes Sovereign to explode.

A Covenant energy projector, which is much more powerful than a disruptor torpedo, has longer range, and bypasses kinetic barriers could thus do severe damage to a Reaper Capital ship. Destroying it in only a few, or one, well-placed shots. And it doesn't even have to get close to do so.

[C-Sec Officer]

Lili_oups wrote...

 stupid thread

the reapers would rape the covenants easily

assuming control end of story

But what if instead of the covenant, they went against the flood?

[o Ventus]

Anti-killer wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I do not play Star Craft, but I can guess what a Zerg Rush is. Covenant slip space jumps neutralize any rushing tactics though. Their energy projectors can fire from at least 100,000 kilometers away, each bypassing Reaper shielding entirely and likely one-shotting them (as they can one shot UNSC ships, and a single disruptor torpedo could lance through Sovereign with its shielding down).

Sovereign didn't just have its shields down. It was more or less unconscious (See: completely defenseless, not jsut left without shields) after Saren was killed.

Actually, cardiac arrest is probably a closer analogue than just going unconscious.

What are you saying, that Sovereign's deactivation somehow weakened the integrity of its armor?

Come on. the torpedo goes straight through it, and it explodes.

No, I'm saying that Sovereign is floating there, immobilized and taking fire from hundreds of other ships at the same time.

Sovereign destroyed most of the ships.

even then, it wasn't "Hundreds of ships"

The entirety of the Council fleet, the 5th Fleet, and an unnamed turian fleet.

That's at least 100 ships.

This marks the 2nd time in 2 days I'll have watched the ending cutscene to ME1. I can see what's going on.

Modifié par o Ventus, 22 juin 2012 - 12:33 .

[Anti-killer]

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

[o Ventus]

Anti-killer wrote...

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

You mean High Charity?

I haven't played the Halo games in forever, but wasn't that destroyed (or at least taken over by the Flood)?

[111987]

Anti-killer wrote...

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

A single Foreunner ship could probably wipe out the Reapers...

[Anti-killer]

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

You mean High Charity?

I haven't played the Halo games in forever, but wasn't that destroyed (or at least taken over by the Flood)?

High charity was taken over by the Flood. the Forerunner ship escaped and fled to Earth.

just to let you know, it's engines(which were only 25% operational) was powering the whole of High charity, which dwarfs the citadel by a huge margin.

if the Covenant were to put weapons on it, the Reapers better be saying their prayers.

[111987]

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

You mean High Charity?

I haven't played the Halo games in forever, but wasn't that destroyed (or at least taken over by the Flood)?

Nah, the dreadnaught was the thing powering High Charity.

halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner_Dreadnought

[agu123]

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

You mean High Charity?

I haven't played the Halo games in forever, but wasn't that destroyed (or at least taken over by the Flood)?

I think he's talking about the ship inside High Charity.

[o Ventus]

Anti-killer wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Did I forget to mention that the covenant have a Forerunner Dreadnaught at their disposal?

You mean High Charity?

I haven't played the Halo games in forever, but wasn't that destroyed (or at least taken over by the Flood)?

High charity was taken over by the Flood. the Forerunner ship escaped and fled to Earth.

just to let you know, it's engines(which were only 25% operational) was powering the whole of High charity, which dwarfs the citadel by a huge margin.

if the Covenant were to put weapons on it, the Reapers better be saying their prayers.

Oh yeah, the Keyship.

Wasn't it implied to be destroyed when the Ark detonated?