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[Anti-killer]

D24O wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

The thing is compared to some other scifi franchises the Reapers are pretty lame. The covenant super carrier is 29 km long, 11 km wide, and 4 km high. The covenant capital High Charity is a 348 km long space station. Darth Vader's flagship, the Executor, is 19 km long. The second death star was 900 km in diameter. The Reapers would get wrecked.

Too true man. Too true. Other Sci-Fi fleets would s***t on ME's, but ME is just so much cooler than them.

Only because a lot of other SciFi franchises suffer the DBZ effect. Once one moderately powerful superweapon is disabled or destroyed, the next one they introduce will destroy the universe.

The Reapers more or less stay the same. That's why they're more believable as villains, even if they aren't "good" villains.

IIRC the covenant never really got progressively stronger and stronger. I mean, even the UNSC had giant stations like the Hierophant, and thir ships of the line were about the size of a Capital Reaper as well, but they were always at a disadvantage in space combat.

In one book, I believe the UNSC destroyed a Gas giant with a few Shiva nukes. said nukes aren't really that good against Covenant ships...just saying.

[kristopherah]

I think the real question is who would win Sheperd or the entire combined covenant fleet I thing Sheperd

[o Ventus]

Grimwick wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

The thing is compared to some other scifi franchises the Reapers are pretty lame. The covenant super carrier is 29 km long, 11 km wide, and 4 km high. The covenant capital High Charity is a 348 km long space station. Darth Vader's flagship, the Executor, is 19 km long. The second death star was 900 km in diameter. The Reapers would get wrecked.

Too true man. Too true. Other Sci-Fi fleets would s***t on ME's, but ME is just so much cooler than them.

Only because a lot of other SciFi franchises suffer the DBZ effect. Once one moderately powerful superweapon is disabled or destroyed, the next one they introduce will destroy the universe.

The Reapers more or less stay the same. That's why they're more believable as villains, even if they aren't "good" villains.

Although I would argue that the covenant also didn't do this and remain fairly believable in the story..

Well I never said the Covenant themselves do this, rather that a number of SciFi villains do.

And for clarification, the part you bolded in my earlier post was just me exaggerating to show how absurd the premise is.

Modifié par o Ventus, 08 juillet 2012 - 05:46 .

[D24O]

Anti-killer wrote...
In one book, I believe the UNSC destroyed a Gas giant with a few Shiva nukes. said nukes aren't really that good against Covenant ships...just saying.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is it that Covenant were OP because the nukes blew up a gas giant?

[Anti-killer]

D24O wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...
In one book, I believe the UNSC destroyed a Gas giant with a few Shiva nukes. said nukes aren't really that good against Covenant ships...just saying.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is it that Covenant were OP because the nukes blew up a gas giant?

no, i'm saying that in the books the UNSC pull off alot of powerful crap they shouldn't be able too

[Grimwick]

o Ventus wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

The thing is compared to some other scifi franchises the Reapers are pretty lame. The covenant super carrier is 29 km long, 11 km wide, and 4 km high. The covenant capital High Charity is a 348 km long space station. Darth Vader's flagship, the Executor, is 19 km long. The second death star was 900 km in diameter. The Reapers would get wrecked.

Too true man. Too true. Other Sci-Fi fleets would s***t on ME's, but ME is just so much cooler than them.

Only because a lot of other SciFi franchises suffer the DBZ effect. Once one moderately powerful superweapon is disabled or destroyed, the next one they introduce will destroy the universe.

The Reapers more or less stay the same. That's why they're more believable as villains, even if they aren't "good" villains.

Although I would argue that the covenant also didn't do this and remain fairly believable in the story..

Well I never said the Covenant themselves do this, rather that a number of SciFi villains do.

And for clarification, the part you bolded in my earlier post was just me exaggerating to show how absurd the premise is.

Ooops.. I didn't bold that, I was quoting someone else quoting you.

The irony being that the covenant do just that...

[D24O]

Anti-killer wrote...

D24O wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...
In one book, I believe the UNSC destroyed a Gas giant with a few Shiva nukes. said nukes aren't really that good against Covenant ships...just saying.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is it that Covenant were OP because the nukes blew up a gas giant?

no, i'm saying that in the books the UNSC pull off alot of powerful crap they shouldn't be able too

Ok, you have a point. They also strap 9 nukes together and destory a covenant fleet and half a planet, so they do have some tricks up their sleeve.

[Anti-killer]

D24O wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

D24O wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...
In one book, I believe the UNSC destroyed a Gas giant with a few Shiva nukes. said nukes aren't really that good against Covenant ships...just saying.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is it that Covenant were OP because the nukes blew up a gas giant?

no, i'm saying that in the books the UNSC pull off alot of powerful crap they shouldn't be able too

Ok, you have a point. They also strap 9 nukes together and destory a covenant fleet and half a planet, so they do have some tricks up their sleeve.

That'd be the NOVA bomb. it destroyed a Moon, a covenant fleet and fried a quater of a planet.

though they only made 1 of them.

[D24O]

Anti-killer wrote...

That'd be the NOVA bomb. it destroyed a Moon, a covenant fleet and fried a quater of a planet.

though they only made 1 of them.

Yes, but my original point stands, the Covenant wasn't really modified endlessly like in a DBZ story arc, the Humans were still on the ropes until the Seperatists came to help them, and even then they only won because Truth comitted his fleet to the Ark and lost it all.

Modifié par D24O, 08 juillet 2012 - 06:00 .

[N7 samus aran]

Samus stomps, badly. Her plasma beam can probably one-two shot kill pretty much anything there except the Reaper Destroyer, wave + x-ray visor allows her to snipe through walls and stun opponents with electricity, etc etc. The Reaper Destroyer goes down to a few volleys of missiles and/or a powerbomb up it's ass.

Samus wins 100/100 times. And honestly, a Banshee one shot kill wouldn't even work, Samus's armor + 8 energy tanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any of the **** armor in ME.

Edit: And that's not even getting into Samus's superhuman physiology, such as super speed and reaction times, ridiculous jump height, etc.

[N7 samus aran]

ONE mac round from a UNSC ship is 1.17 teratons reapers dead

[v TricKy v]

The Covenant are a lot more advanced than the Reapers. A Reaper Capital ship would be like a Fighter against a Covenant Super Carrier. I think even the UNSC could beat the Reapers. Their ships are packing a lot more firepower than a Reaper Capital ship. They also have Spartans which is like an instant win.

[crimzontearz]

N7 samus aran wrote...ONE mac round from a UNSC ship is 1.17 teratons reapers dead

regular ships have 64 kiloton yield MACS which is nearly twice as much as that of a dreadnought's cannon in ME





orbital defense supermacs have a 51.6 gigatons. The infinity is long enough to have a supermac.





still several hundreds if not thousands of times more powerful than any reaper weapon or alliance weapons

[N7 samus aran]

Pretty much any computer system hit by a phazon virus is going down in short order, and spreading that much phazon around would be absolutely devastating. It’ll be very difficult to avoid death or corruption if every computer connected to a network is spewing phazon everywhere.
“not happening…..it would have to pierce their environmental suit. to infect them. quarians could upgrade their protection if neccessary.”
In regard to the X-parasites, they’ve pierced that kind of thing before. They got past both Samus’s energy shielding and power suit. That thing is superior to pretty much all of Mass Effect’s shielding. Also, how would those shields and other tech hold up against Electromagnetic Pulses? Space Pirates regularly employ EMP grenades to shut down electronics (Samus’ suit is immune) and the Elysians (sentient robots) can use them to heal or attack. I’m pretty sure that would work as a dual overload and sabotage.
Any robot or AI I could also see falling to a squad of those freaking Rezbits. I hate them, but it’s more fun when they’re on your side. Basically, they can wirelessly transmit a virus and/or hack nearly anything (Samus is not totally immune). That’s in addition to their near impenetrable shield and their laser weapons. Annoying things.
But really, when ALL of Metroid is bearing down on you, there’s few that can stand up to it. The Chozo, Luminoth, and Alimbics are back in action, the Ing, phazon, and X are not dead, etc. The Space Pirates and GF are at their prime. The countless named species would be able to lend a hand, like the Ylla, N’Kren, Jovians, Vhozons, Krikens, Phyrggisians, even the extinct Diamonts could be there for this. The possibilities are endless. reapers will lose against metroid verse badly

[N7 samus aran]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Why can't these threads just die, we all know the Reapers would destroy them.

Not only can the Reaper force them to fight each other, they can turn them into more Reapers and troops.
Not only that the two could not exist in the same galaxy as the Reapers would have to come before them and make them fall along their path, even if they don't discover mass effect technology the Reapers can destroy them with sheer numbers and turning them against each other.

I don't know what  all the fan fiction going around about who has stronger shields and weapons is about.
The Covenant has nothing other than fan fiction on the Reapers in their favor.
The Reapers have Indoctrination.

Indoctrination > Fan Fiction

  space pirates from Metroid would defeat Reapers so its not fanfiction covenant and space pirates own Reapers

[Skirata129]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Did anyone else think the Flood were a really unconvincing threat in Halo? I mean, they're basically just zombies who are smart enough to use guns. Yeah, Halo 3 introduced a couple new variants, but still.

any enemy with no supply chain, and who's numbers increase exponentially as yours shrink is a major threat.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Considering how the Sangheili work, the Reapers could win easily...

[N7 samus aran]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Considering how the Sangheili work, the Reapers could win easily...

Space pirate fleet own reapers so can covenant forerunners would blow up Reapers into millions of pieces and thats stupid star child that destroyed ME3 ending

[crimzontearz]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Considering how the Sangheili work, the Reapers could win easily...

uh....the sangheili are not beneath pressing an advantage (in this case their superior weaponary)...look at what they did with the Mglegkolos

[Zardoc]

I don't get the point of threads like these (nor why people seem to have the urge to necro them for no bloody reason, but that is beside the point). We all know the Reapers/ME-verse would lose against pretty much any other sci-fi universe. So why bother?

[TurianFrigate]

Covenant come on have you seen the size of that super-carrier.

[crimzontearz]

TurianFrigate wrote...

Covenant come on have you seen the size of that super-carrier.

even without the size advantage...come on even the UNSC has weapons that would one shot a reaper capital ship

[Lionfranky]

It is funny when everyone just spews out indoctrination as if it were key to solving all problems.
If that were the case, why couldn't Reaper just indoctrinate the councils? Because they couldn't.
Indoctrination is short ranged. And throughout the game, Reapers preferred direct conflict than mind trick.
I don't know where people get idea that Reapers think smart enough to use indoctrination all the time.
And some people suggested that Covenant would misunderstand Reaper for Forerunner technology.
Rofl. Covenants are very familiar with Forerunner technology although they just mimiced the tech.
Even then, Covenants fought sentinels aka sacred warriors according to them. So Covenant won't stay idle and let Reapers attack.

It just astounds me how many people overrate Mass Effect and downplay Halo. So much ignorance that it hurts.

[crimzontearz]

As I said....The Covenant was wiping the floor with the UNSC and at full potential the UNSC could effectively repel the reapers

[Ledgend1221]

Is everyone forgetting that Reapers kinetic barriers only stop high-speed projectiles? They can't stop energy weapons. The covenant's shields can stop both. The covenant also uses pure energy based weapons.