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[KingRoxas]

I think that a Templar companion is needed, whether he/she is optional or not. I would prefer a new character.

[LolaLei]

Kyle Kabanya wrote...

DA3 is supposedly going to occur after the events of Origins and DA2. So therefore Cullen is old and out of shape to be a teammate. And sadly no Warden.

Second, Templars need the pauldron armor from Origins. As long as that armor makes a comeback, I'm fine.

Depends how long after DA2 it's set and how old Cullen actually is in DA:O, his model looked kinda old but apparently he's supposed to be quite young in it (probably a retcon in DA2.) Besides Kaidan in ME3 is about 35-36 and he still kicks arse and looks good doing it. I doubt Cullen would be made any older than that.

[darkness of Dragon]

Why are you want a Templar? You have a Seeker! If I understand it right, seeker are the secret elite Templars of the chantry. Under the command of the Divine. I absolute confinced that these Seeker we get, will be thinking nearly the same as a common Templar.

sorry for bad english. It is not my nativ Language

[LolaLei]

darkness of Dragon wrote...

Why are you want a Templar? You have a Seeker! If I understand it right, seeker are the secret elite Templars of the chantry. Under the command of the Divine. I absolute confinced that these Seeker we get, will be thinking nearly the same as a common Templar.

sorry for bad english. It is not my nativ Language

Well, for me personally I don't just want any old Templar, I want Cullen as a companion/love interest in DA3... simply because I've been waiting to have him in my party for 2 games and he's an interesting character... amongst other things lol.

I don't have a problem with having a Seeker companion, Cassandra seems like she could be fun to have around, but if I had to pick between her and Cullen I'd pick Cullen lol.

[KotorEffect3]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

darkness of Dragon wrote...

Why are you want a Templar? You have a Seeker! If I understand it right, seeker are the secret elite Templars of the chantry. Under the command of the Divine. I absolute confinced that these Seeker we get, will be thinking nearly the same as a common Templar.

sorry for bad english. It is not my nativ Language

Seekers and templars are not to friendly among each other I'm afraid.............. Seekers look for templars on occasion. It would be interesting to have them both as companions.

And english is not my native language too like many others on this forum so no worries .

It seems to me that seekers are to templars what templars are to mages.

[GunMoth]

LolaLei wrote...

5trangeCase wrote...

....why do people love Cullen? I only vaguely know who he is, and has a shade of a character.

Lol, it's a long story. Do you remember him from DA:O if you played as a female Mage? If you do then you'll know the backstory to his plight. Mix that with the fact that his character really develops during DA2 and the fact that they made him hot as hell, and there's your answer!

:U Indeed. The DA: Origins story as a female mage was so cute. Forbidden love met with an awkward templar who blushes and runs away like a little school girl when you hit on him. Oh Cullen. 


Too bad he turns out to be a jerk after the circle gets overrun. 

[LolaLei]

GunMoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

5trangeCase wrote...

....why do people love Cullen? I only vaguely know who he is, and has a shade of a character.

Lol, it's a long story. Do you remember him from DA:O if you played as a female Mage? If you do then you'll know the backstory to his plight. Mix that with the fact that his character really develops during DA2 and the fact that they made him hot as hell, and there's your answer!

:U Indeed. The DA: Origins story as a female mage was so cute. Forbidden love met with an awkward templar who blushes and runs away like a little school girl when you hit on him. Oh Cullen. 


Too bad he turns out to be a jerk after the circle gets overrun. 

Can't say I blame him, he was tortured for weeks/months and watched all his Templar friends die. He seemed to be more sympathetic by the end of DA2 at least... bah, if he a companion/love interest in DA3 my Mage is gonna romance the sh!t outta him!

[Windninja47]

Cullen's okay, I'm pretty indifferent to him even though my cannon Hawke is a templar supporter. He doesn't seem like leader material so I guess he'd be fine with following the new PC around. I only really need 3 companions in these games anyway- one to be the LI, one to be my bro, and one to be my respected rival. He's male so he can't be the LI and he doesn't seem interesting enough to be my bro. If he mans up then I suppose he could make an okay rival, maybe...

[Burnouts3s3]

I think Cullen would be great for Dragon age 3 considering all the spotlight he's been getting.

People might say "But you already had Alistair and he was a Templar", but not really. Alistair didn't undergo the vows and was never officialy made a templar, only had the training. With Cullen, we'd have a great contrast: Alistair, sympathetic to mages and Cullen, distrustful of mages.

[The Six Path of Pain]

Why do so many people like Cullen he's a bigot hypocrite,sure he helps you at the end of DAII,but only because he finally accepted that Meredith was crazy.IF he is in future DA games wether he's a companion or not and there's a (kill him) option i'm not going to hesitate to pick it....As for for the question meh I would rather they make some companion with new specializations.

[Auriel]

Hm. Even if people don't like Cullen/templars, since when did we only have companions that we/everyone liked? Would it not be worth the experience to have a character you love to hate? For example, I did not like Anders in DA2, at all, but I would never say that he needs to be taken out of the game. Because I know there are people who love him. I say we need a wide variety of companions so that everyone can have at least one that they like.

As for a templar companion, definitely! Even better if it's Cullen So much potential for great character dynamics. I can definitely see a situation where the player would be presented with a chance to help a mage (with a potentially dangerous outcome), to which the templar would object so strongly that based on your approval/friendship you would either have to fight him or have him leave. Pretty basic stuff, really, and it would satisfy those who just want to kill off every templar.

[Asch Lavigne]

If DA3 is about the war and we have a Templar companion with a mage in the party (and who doesn't think we'll get a mage) it'll be whine whine whine ala Anders back and forth for the whole game.

[LolaLei]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

If DA3 is about the war and we have a Templar companion with a mage in the party (and who doesn't think we'll get a mage) it'll be whine whine whine ala Anders back and forth for the whole game.

I'm hoping DG 'n' co will avoid another Anders situation, it does start to get annoying when all the bugger wants to talk about is the Mage plight. I'd get pissed off with Cullen too if he's gonna go on about Templars and Mages all the time, I wanna hear proper banter from my companions about a wide variety of different things, not just about what defines them.

[Auriel]

LolaLei wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

If DA3 is about the war and we have a Templar companion with a mage in the party (and who doesn't think we'll get a mage) it'll be whine whine whine ala Anders back and forth for the whole game.

I'm hoping DG 'n' co will avoid another Anders situation, it does start to get annoying when all the bugger wants to talk about is the Mage plight. I'd get pissed off with Cullen too if he's gonna go on about Templars and Mages all the time, I wanna hear proper banter from my companions about a wide variety of different things, not just about what defines them.

Yeah. I must admit I can see how that would be a potential problem with having a templar. Their experiences in life pretty much revolve around mages and other templars, and especially in a war between the two there would probably not be much else for them to talk about. At least in the beginning.

But then again, if the war was all the game was about, I'd be quite disappointed. There's bound to be a lot of new experiences for the templar, and it would be a great opportunity for them to grow as a person and have your protagonist guide them through the process. So the focus could very well shift as the game progresses.

[LolaLei]

I figure that a Templar probably doesn't have much life experience outside of the Order, especially Cullen or someone like him, so in theory the opportunity for him/her to experience new things should generate some interesting banter.

[Auriel]

LolaLei wrote...

I figure that a Templar probably doesn't have much life experience outside of the Order, especially Cullen or someone like him, so in theory the opportunity for him/her to experience new things should generate some interesting banter.

Exactly, that's what I was trying to say

[MissA-Black]

It would be interesting if the game gave you the opportunity, through dialogue, to support his stance against mages or convince him there is a middle ground, similar to hardening Alistair or Leliana.

That said, I fully support Cullen as companion/LI.

[Parmida]

Y U NO GIVE ME CULLEN?!
I want Cullen as a companion and bi LI.<3
He can assume direct control of my Bloodmage anytime.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Who is that Masked Man wrote...

I don't hate him, but I continue to dislike him, in part because of his role in DAO.

I can't blame post-tortured Cullen for being traumatized. I do blame him for using that as justification for killing all the surviving mages, regardless of their guilt. Irving was also tortured, but he didn't go insane. Whereas Cullen, in his DAO epilogue, ends up as either a murdering hobo vigilante or a Meredith-style tyrant ruling the Circle through fear.

That's because they are all compromised.
A logical course of action doesn't necessarily have to be a nice one.

Then in DA2, for most of the game we find Cullen firmly in the jerkass faction of the templars. He admires Meredith, and implicitly endorses the "Tranquil Solution." He says that mages are "weapons" and should not be treated as people. He is never shown saying or doing anything to address the templars' abuses of power, such as their sexual abuse of Circle mages.

a) you make it sound like it's rampant
you make it sound as he can actually do anything about it. Thing with rapists is they usually take precautions not to get caught. And with middle ages, and no forensics, how do you prove guilt?
It's impossible to prove today if a few days pass, let alone then.

I'll tell you this, though: given the chance, I am definitely exploding him with blood magic in at least one playthrough.

And I'm definately going to nutralize every mage I run across.

[Lotion Soronarr]

5trangeCase wrote...

You can't blame "Cullen's shortcomings" on bad writing, he is not a real person, every one of his shortcomings is the intention of the writer.

If Cullen isn't a rapist himself, then he's fine with other people being rapists. That is part of his character.

Poopyco*k!

Unless you can actually support that statement with actual proff that Cullen knew about it, knew who did it and could have done something but didn't, then you got nuttin'.

[Lotion Soronarr]

cindercatz wrote...
No, I want NPCs to be consistent to the choices of previous games. Cullen *is* a serial killer in some of my DA:O saves, and in DA2, he's basically made his way north and gotten a new job.

Eh? Ruling the Cirlce with an Iron Fist does not equal a serial killer.

He's the guy that has Lily shipped off to be tortured and locked up just because her boyfriend turned out to be a blood mage, and who supported routinely tranquilling mages just because they weren't showing enough progress in their studies.

You mean the woman who helped a known blood mage break into the vault, steal stuff and escape?
Yeah, the law is kinda clear on that.
Also, many see becoming tranquil as a mercy or a lesser evil over having to kill the guy.

[Lotion Soronarr]

wsandista wrote...
Ser Otto was doing his Templar duty by invetigating rumors of blood magic in the alienage. He stayed around because he sensed "evil" which means demons, which as I understand fall under the Templars jurisdiction as well, so he was still performing his duty. A Templar would be out of place in a party because (s)he would not be putting their duty first. Thats why a deserter or someone who was expelled from the order works the best since they know how the Templars work by having served with them, but still have the freedom to move around without being brought to task for neglecting their duty(since they no longer are obligated to perform them).

You know...following the protagonist could very well BE a templars duty.

Let's say when Gregoir let Wynee go with you he also sent a templar to esort/keep an eye out. Makes sense, no?

In other owrds, a templar can very well travel with a protagonist - it all depends on what his orders are, what his duty is and how he sees going about it.

And yes, DAIII needs soem more templar perspective BADLY. We're being drowned in mage companions and mage misery. Time for a proper look from the other side.

I jsut fear the big wigs at EA will  take a look at statistical data and go "Most people choose mages. They like them more. Make Templars evil in the sequel, they will like it". I bet that's what happened to Cerberus and TIM.

So if you're reading this David, I have just one plea: Don't make the templars/Circles evil in the end.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 29 août 2012 - 12:01 .

[KingRoxas]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
We're being drowned in mage companions and mage misery. Time for a proper look from the other side.