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#76
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Also on melee being weaksauce, check it on a well specced infiltrator.

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Seriously? what did you smoke op? i am used to playing drell without fitness, the geth is immortal ;)

All in all the geth infiltrator DOUBLED my efficiency, tho i have to play a lot more carefull then what i am used from my no fitness fem infiltrator

But i agree, not everyone is suited for a geth, especially as every error means death

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Funny thing, but my geth engineer in hunter mode is a Great defensive team player, because my turrets will help block enemy advances, my 25% damage buff helps my geth shotgun X completely crush whatever my turret doesn't get, and I can move fast to help my team mates who might be in trouble or down, and in hunter mode, I don't stress over phantoms or enemy hunters sneaking up on me anymore, because I can see them and all the flipping in the world won't save that phantom from my shotgun. 

**EDIT:  Ok, I will say this, my geth engineer IS pretty weak when it comes to melee, I rarely ever kill a normal mob with only one power melee attack.  However, my geth infiltrator is quite different, as he can crush stuff in melee.  It's all in how you spec and how you play the spec.

Modifié par Raseri, 18 avril 2012 - 10:02 .


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Using cover, check. Having a turret down at all times to delay, torch, and restore, check.

What's the problem here, exactly? I die the least when I play a Geth. Bad players are just as terrible with any other class/race combination. There are a million threads like these, maybe if you people combined all of your "Dear _____ class" threads to **** you'd realize that a lot of people are unskilled and/or reckless regardless of what they play. But a lot of them are damned good. Find the ones that are and latch on so that the rest of us are spared from these derpy threads.

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Oh dear. Health and shields are just two names for the same damn thing so it only matters how much they have combined. Geth arent more squishy then other classes,even with hunter mode on.

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sheltomlee wrote...

There's another thread on here just today that states that hunter mode is useless. I'm telling you there's an entire ocean of people who don't know how to play and SHOULD go back to bronze and practice with geth before moving up.


Maybe you should go back to bronze? You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Bad players are gonna suck no matter what class they use, unless it's a salarian engineer on fb white.

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

sheltomlee wrote...

There's another thread on here just today that states that hunter mode is useless. I'm telling you there's an entire ocean of people who don't know how to play and SHOULD go back to bronze and practice with geth before moving up.


Maybe you should go back to bronze? You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Bad players are gonna suck no matter what class they use, unless it's a salarian engineer on fb white.


When the class came out I did go to bronze and practice with it. Thanks for taking the time to make my point for me, idiot.

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Brownfinger wrote...

Using cover, check. Having a turret down at all times to delay, torch, and restore, check.

What's the problem here, exactly? I die the least when I play a Geth. Bad players are just as terrible with any other class/race combination. There are a million threads like these, maybe if you people combined all of your "Dear _____ class" threads to **** you'd realize that a lot of people are unskilled and/or reckless regardless of what they play. But a lot of them are damned good. Find the ones that are and latch on so that the rest of us are spared from these derpy threads.

Pretty much. Although I find it amusing that still comes as a surprise to some people.

Also, I just read this in salarian voice.

#84
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... Have you seen a Geth Engineer on gold? ****, I'll show you.

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Op should go back to bronze, all of his Posts indicate hè's immature and hè generalises an entire race and hè contradicts himself by failing at wordchoices and instead of admitting hes wrong hè says hes correct.

Ow the irony.

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tonnactus wrote...

Oh dear. Health and shields are just two names for the same damn thing so it only matters how much they have combined. Geth arent more squishy then other classes,even with hunter mode on.


Hunter mode drops 400 off your shields.  But that doesn't mean much when you've got 3  fungineer turrets healing you.

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This ain't right
First vanguards, then infiltrators and now you're trying to make the poor geth hated :(
And yes, put some points into fitness and you have as much shields as other classes in HM
E: this assuming HM only effects base shields, as somebody stated

Modifié par molecularman, 18 avril 2012 - 10:04 .


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Wesus wrote...

Op should go back to bronze, all of his Posts indicate hè's immature and hè generalises an entire race and hè contradicts himself by failing at wordchoices and instead of admitting hes wrong hè says hes correct.

Ow the irony.

Whats up with the è?

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tonnactus wrote...

Oh dear. Health and shields are just two names for the same damn thing so it only matters how much they have combined. Geth arent more squishy then other classes,even with hunter mode on.


Oh deeaarrrr.. They ARE two separate things because hardly anyone notices where the shield is at till it's gone, and when it's gone on a geth pub player, they are gone, get it?

Whatever, that'll teach me to post anything further on these disgusting forums with the lowest form of human life imgaginable.

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People practice in bronze? Come on folks. Silver is for practicing. Bronze is a joke.

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

sheltomlee wrote...

There's another thread on here just today that states that hunter mode is useless. I'm telling you there's an entire ocean of people who don't know how to play and SHOULD go back to bronze and practice with geth before moving up.


Maybe you should go back to bronze? You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Bad players are gonna suck no matter what class they use, unless it's a salarian engineer on fb white.


I thought this was true too.  Then I played with a salarian engineer on fbw who either hadn't specced decoy or refused to use it.  We still won, but man did he suck.

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Dr. Tran wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Oh dear. Health and shields are just two names for the same damn thing so it only matters how much they have combined. Geth arent more squishy then other classes,even with hunter mode on.


Hunter mode drops 400 off your shields.  But that doesn't mean much when you've got 3  fungineer turrets healing you.


If someone spec fitness for health and shield bonuses(which the engineer should do at least) they arent squishy even with hunter mode on.

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The geth is an amazing class, period.

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Wesus wrote...

I dont have à personal problem but your Posts contradict eachother meaning your either really dumb or you chance your opinion every 2 seconds


Mitt  Sheltomlee the Pander Bear.  I like it!

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sheltomlee wrote...


Oh deeaarrrr.. They ARE two separate things because hardly anyone notices where the shield is at till it's gone,


You maybee. I dont have such problems.
By the way: No one will miss you.

Modifié par tonnactus, 18 avril 2012 - 10:09 .


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Phazael wrote...

Ok, thats two classes with two talents specced toward damage reduction, in both cases. Now try standing out in the open with the other 28 classes on Gold and tell me what happens. Fitness only matters for classes that operate at close range or for surviving damage over time effects. Its always the first skill people chop points out of for a reason.  Dodging and cover are the only defense of consequence on gold for the classes witout DR talents.


That was 3, actually. And if you want to count each character as an individual class, how many sentinels would that include? 5? (Both humans, the Batarian, Krogan and Turian) Then there is the KV who also gets high damage reduction. Krogan soldier gets damage reduction talents. Drell gets 40% DR as well, but he's so flimsy I won't even include him. AJ is 8. If you're playing gold, and using a class like an Asari Adept, or Salarian Engineer to stand out in the open (Or any class to stand out in the open for that matter) you shouldn't be playing gold. Damage reduction definitely makes a difference when I can pull aggro from the Phantoms that would otherwise destroy the glass cannon engineers and adepts on my team.

Fitness is usually the difference between life and death when you get flanked by that Assault trooper that no one saw, the grenade that was randomly tossed your way, or if that Geth Hunter decloaks next to you. Situational awareness is always going to be more beneficial than anything else on gold, but for you to say that one shot from anything is always going to take your shield off, and the next will kill you is utterly moronic.

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iPad autocorrection mate ;)

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Wesus wrote...

iPad autocorrection mate ;)

Fancy matè.

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Every geth I play with on gold is at least decent, and some are pretty great. Maybe the bad ones have been weeded out at that difficulty, or maybe you just have bad luck with teammates.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Phazael wrote...

Ok, thats two classes with two talents specced toward damage reduction, in both cases. Now try standing out in the open with the other 28 classes on Gold and tell me what happens. Fitness only matters for classes that operate at close range or for surviving damage over time effects. Its always the first skill people chop points out of for a reason.  Dodging and cover are the only defense of consequence on gold for the classes witout DR talents.


That was 3, actually. And if you want to count each character as an individual class, how many sentinels would that include? 5? (Both humans, the Batarian, Krogan and Turian) Then there is the KV who also gets high damage reduction. Krogan soldier gets damage reduction talents. Drell gets 40% DR as well, but he's so flimsy I won't even include him. AJ is 8. If you're playing gold, and using a class like an Asari Adept, or Salarian Engineer to stand out in the open (Or any class to stand out in the open for that matter) you shouldn't be playing gold. Damage reduction definitely makes a difference when I can pull aggro from the Phantoms that would otherwise destroy the glass cannon engineers and adepts on my team.

Fitness is usually the difference between life and death when you get flanked by that Assault trooper that no one saw, the grenade that was randomly tossed your way, or if that Geth Hunter decloaks next to you. Situational awareness is always going to be more beneficial than anything else on gold, but for you to say that one shot from anything is always going to take your shield off, and the next will kill you is utterly moronic.


If you are getting flanked, then someone messed up their assignment.  And the Hunter Vision actually gives you more situational awareness, so I am not sure what you are arguing there.  Seeing a phantom comming from a mile away is a lot more useful than being able to eat two more bullets from a trash mob, because Captain Jackass the Vanguard left his lane unguarded.  Hell for that matter, the turret actually buys you more time, since even an offensively specced one will top off your shields and draw the initial attacks, giving you an early warning, plus you know that turret is going to hold its position, unlike an undisciplined team mate.

That said, I do run with Fitness 4 on my engineer because I mostly end up in PUGs and having the margine for error is nice, but if I ever decide to repect, it will be more ranks in Huntermode at the expense of Fitness.

Modifié par Phazael, 18 avril 2012 - 10:15 .