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[Frocharocha]

 It makes alot of sense. What wee know  from Flemeth soo far matches with the powers, toughts and other features of Dinnjs. Flemeth:

-Can Shapfit at any animal form. Homever, she chooses to turn into a dragon form. A very frighten being. In the Quoran, a race of Shapifiting Djinns can turn into animals. And they choose mounstruous forms to frighten the humans.

-She is mortal, just like a Djinn. Homever, Djinns can live thousands of years and they can also get old before die. This could explain her nessecity to change to body to body.

-She is very very smart. This match with the Djinns. They have a vastly knowlodge of magic, dangerous magic and the world that surrounds them. Also they are very very powerfull. Older the Djinn, harder is to kill.

-She can see the future, as well the Djinns. Like demons (of demonology in real world), Djiins have the ability to read minds (Or EMS), hear the past and see the future.  Homever, this doesn't stop them from being killed.

-She chooses a human form and she is very manipulative, just like the Djiins. Djiins hate the humans, especially the fire Djinns, and they love to make humans belive in stupid or false things. 

-They very rarely show their real form. This would match with Flemeth body, she never showed up or revealed anything about her real form. Something that non controled Djinns always do.

Modifié par Frocharocha, 18 avril 2012 - 11:08 .

[brushyourteeth]

My money's on Old God.

... but I guess I just don't know much about djiins or if they could even exist in DA

[Frocharocha]

brushyourteeth wrote...

My money's on Old God.

... but I guess I just don't know much about djiins or if they could even exist in DA

If they exist in DA universe they would probaly live somewhere in the Fade. Probaly some of them would hide or even live among demons since they can be turned into human belifs. They would be next to the Fade good spirits and would be rare to find. Like Varterrals and other animals.

[Urzon]

I wouldn't say djinn. She always reminded me of the sidhe or Queen Mab. Plus, that would fit more inline with the medieval English feel that Ferelden has.

But ya, i think she is more likely a (semi) divine being. Whether she is an Old God, member of the elvaan partheon, or something else all together is anyones guess atm.

Modifié par Urzon, 19 avril 2012 - 05:47 .

[amat3rasu]

Djinn? That's a new one. I don't think so but here, for your perusal.

Female Qunari? > http://social.biowar...1/index/9454921
Flemeth is Bethany? > http://social.biowar...6/index/8583651
Flemeth is Meredith? > http://social.biowar...6/index/8414981
Her story? > http://social.biowar...6/index/8479993
A theory on Flemeth * > http://social.biowar...1/index/7386650
Flemth the Dreadwolf? > http://social.biowar...6/index/7223326

[Spinel_]

Nope, Flemeth is Fen'Harel who is one of the Creators who are Time Lords. Think about it. The Creators and the Forgotten Ones were trapped from the world like almost all of the Time Lords and Daleks in the Last Great Time War. They can't return because they're time locked. Flemeth, presumably, has already used her twelve regenerations so she needed alternate methods, like taking the bodies of other people, to stay alive (like the Master did in "The Keeper of Traken"). This is totally not a completely insane idea that I came up with because I've been studying for midterms all day, and so I'm not able to think clearly anymore.

[Faerloch]

Spinel_ wrote...

Nope, Flemeth is Fen'Harel who is one of the Creators who are Time Lords. Think about it. The Creators and the Forgotten Ones were trapped from the world like almost all of the Time Lords and Daleks in the Last Great Time War. They can't return because they're time locked. Flemeth, presumably, has already used her twelve regenerations so she needed alternate methods, like taking the bodies of other people, to stay alive (like the Master did in "The Keeper of Traken"). This is totally not a completely insane idea that I came up with because I've been studying for midterms all day, and so I'm not able to think clearly anymore.

This has more merit than you may think, especially with Flemeth's strong ties to the Dalish. Merrill is always spouting stuff about the legend of Fen'Harel and life and death, and fitting that Hawke is told to take Flemeth's amulet to the Dalish near Kirkwall so she can be saved.

Or not. Don't know, but it sounds possible.

[Urzon]

Spinel_ wrote...

Nope, Flemeth is Fen'Harel who is one of the Creators who are Time Lords. Think about it. The Creators and the Forgotten Ones were trapped from the world like almost all of the Time Lords and Daleks in the Last Great Time War. They can't return because they're time locked. Flemeth, presumably, has already used her twelve regenerations so she needed alternate methods, like taking the bodies of other people, to stay alive (like the Master did in "The Keeper of Traken"). This is totally not a completely insane idea that I came up with because I've been studying for midterms all day, and so I'm not able to think clearly anymore.

Don't put thoughts like this in my head. Now i'm making all sorts of connections. 

The "amulet" was actually a chameleon arch storing all of Flemeth's genetic information and memories. That and the "prayer" that Merril used  was to start a ressurection ritual similar to the one used by the Master.

.....That and Flemeth could easily be the Rani.

[Ponendus]

I think Flemeth is some sort of dragon guardian, has been keeping them safe, secret and out of the way for many years now and recruits her daughters to do the same.

[whykikyouwhy]

I always thought she might be:

- The oldest of the old dragons
- A phoenix
- The master cheesemaker
- An oracle
- The avatar of some deity
- Mythal incarnate

Historically, don't the (d)jinn typically attempt to mislead humans? While Flemeth is often cryptic, she is more the voice of prophecy and foreshadowing than anything deceptive (other than possibly showing deception in form - arguably, her true forms could be both human and dragon). The interactions with humans that we know about (that are *not* legend of lore of her time in the Wilds) involve her providing a warning of things to come. And while fate is often the victor in those matters, it does allow those warned to at least prepare (emotionally, perhaps).

Now, if she is like the (d)jinn from certain stories, does that mean that if a protagonist rubs a certain spot, (s)he'll get a wish granted?

[caradoc2000]

I prefer my jinns with tonic.

[Frocharocha]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

I always thought she might be:

- The oldest of the old dragons
- A phoenix
- The master cheesemaker
- An oracle
- The avatar of some deity
- Mythal incarnate

Historically, don't the (d)jinn typically attempt to mislead humans? While Flemeth is often cryptic, she is more the voice of prophecy and foreshadowing than anything deceptive (other than possibly showing deception in form - arguably, her true forms could be both human and dragon). The interactions with humans that we know about (that are *not* legend of lore of her time in the Wilds) involve her providing a warning of things to come. And while fate is often the victor in those matters, it does allow those warned to at least prepare (emotionally, perhaps).

Now, if she is like the (d)jinn from certain stories, does that mean that if a protagonist rubs a certain spot, (s)he'll get a wish granted?

To do that, you need enslave one of them. Also, in real myths, they grant unlimited wishes.

[MrGuse]

amat3rasu wrote...

Flemth the Dreadwolf? > http://social.biowar...6/index/7223326

That's always been my theory.

[Lazy Jer]

Eh...Flemeth is a Flemeth. She's one of a kind, thank the Maker.

[5trangeCase]

amat3rasu wrote...

Djinn? That's a new one. I don't think so but here, for your perusal.

Female Qunari? > http://social.biowar...1/index/9454921
Flemeth is Bethany? > http://social.biowar...6/index/8583651
Flemeth is Meredith? > http://social.biowar...6/index/8414981
Her story? > http://social.biowar...6/index/8479993
A theory on Flemeth * > http://social.biowar...1/index/7386650
Flemth the Dreadwolf? > http://social.biowar...6/index/7223326

ROFL, that is some funny ****....

And I much preferred the "original" truth about Flemeth which I am of the opinion was the truth until they decided it would be cool if it wasn't that simple and then they changed their mind in Witch Hunt; in which Flemeth is just a really old abomination.

Seriously, I would think her character would be so much cooler if she really was just a really old abomination rather than something tired like being a God or whatever.

On the matter of her being Fen'Harel: if she is, they would never admit it because then they'd have to explain what Fen'Harel and the Elven Gods are.

On the matter of her being an Old God: why would she concoct a ritual to create an heir that held the soul of an Old God if she already was one herself?

On the matter of her seeing the future: "is it luck or fate? I can never decide", she can't read the future, otherwise she would know that it was about to happen, and not say that.

I seriously hope they do backtrack and decide she's just an abomination.

[Lamepro]

For some reason she does look like Archdemon we all slayed in Dragon Age Orgins.

[atum]

I think her plot was always more than just a really old abomination. Morrigan says she was told of the ritual by Flemmeth.

[Lazy Jer]

I change my mind. I think Flemeth is a star ship captain whose ship has been stuck in the Delta Quadrant and must make her way home with the help of a crew of unlikely misfits. Clearly she's disguising herself as an old woman in order to find out where this planet keeps all of their dilethium crystals.

Modifié par Lazy Jer, 01 mai 2012 - 03:31 .

[thesnake777]

I think she was possessed by an old god....
Cant wait to find out.

[Urzon]

thesnake777 wrote...

I think she was possessed by an old god....
Cant wait to find out.

I'm thinking either that, or she is a very old (and powerful) high dragon that takes the form of a human to try and keep the dragon race alive. The Old Gods fall under that category as well.

Though the person that suggested her being the Khaleesi might be onto something.

The Mother of Dragons!

[Rorschachinstein]

The Reincarnation of Andraste?

[thesnake777]

Urzon wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

I think she was possessed by an old god....
Cant wait to find out.

I'm thinking either that, or she is a very old (and powerful) high dragon that takes the form of a human to try and keep the dragon race alive. The Old Gods fall under that category as well.

Though the person that suggested her being the Khaleesi might be onto something.

The Mother of Dragons!

The Mother Of Dragons....
Oh My God. We must slay her!!  Get the guys together we are going to have to chop her up and bury the pieces as far way from each other as possible,

hmm could be I still think shes possessed by one of the old gods. Though when it comes to flemth it could be anything. That woman is playing chess while we are all playing checkers.

[Silfren]

I suspect that Flemeth is Fen'Harel, personally. As an agent of chaos, she certainly fits.