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[Dead_Meat357]

I agree with the OP. I never really had a lot of desire to play as FemShep. I did actually create one in ME2 but never finished the game with it. Obviously she's nicer to look at as she is more attractive, but I much prefer the interactions with the characters from a male perspective. Also, I don't think FemShep is particularly well done. She has male animations and her dialog is almost identical to her male counterpart. She comes across as a bit manly.

Just doesn't seem right to me.

And I agree. I wouldn't have minded "little blue children" in Shep's future, but crying over pictures in the forum? Really? There aren't a lot of reasons a grown man should cry ever. And fan art which has Liara / FemSheps even ManSheps and blue babies isn't one of them.

I like Liara a lot, probably even more than I should but a lot of the stuff I read creeps me out too.

Modifié par Dead_Meat357, 19 avril 2012 - 05:03 .

[AwesomeDudex64]

Mavaras wrote...

Another reason some guys might always choose female avatars is because they have a complex that makes them want to assert control over women, and by controlling a female avatar's movements, conversations, clothing, personality, love interests etc.; they obtain complete dominance, thereby satisfying their psychological perversion. Or, they just like dat ass.

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

I never played as Femshep (I'll probably get myself to do it one of these days) because.. I don't know really... I think it just felt weird. Like I couldn't FULLY place myself in the role of Shepard. I did like her voice over Meer's alot of the time from viewing youtube vids (that cut dialogue with Anderson gets me EVERY time).
It was like Meer played it in kind of an exaggerated role to emphasize the Paragon or Renegade side and Hale kind of played it a bit more neutral or so (again, this is just from youtube, so it might not be the case).

I do think that Meer finally stepped it up in ME3. He didn't seem like an over the top boyscout giving a lecture or a souless jerkass anymore and I felt like playing renegon like I usually do felt extremely natural like Paragon/Renegade were more two different aspects to the same character instead of two different characters altogether. Thats just my opinion though

Modifié par Vic-TIM of Circumstance, 19 avril 2012 - 05:02 .

[Mavaras]

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...
*For Size*

Yet again; maybe the individuals have over active animas, being born with more feminine tendencies than masculine tendencies,  and because of society's gender conventions, they are labeled men when they actually consider themselves women. Playing female characters in games may be a criticism free outlet for them to roleplay out scenarios they could never experience in real life. Or, they just like dat ass.

Modifié par Mavaras, 19 avril 2012 - 05:05 .

[Humakt83]

It is a third person game, I know which Shepard I'd rather watch. But seriously I do not put myself into character's shoes and I've played both male and female Shepard. First person games are more immersive, and there it is easier to take the character's role, but third person enables better group control.

Modifié par Humakt83, 19 avril 2012 - 05:09 .

[Dead_Meat357]

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

I never played as Femshep (I'll probably get myself to do it one of these days) because.. I don't know really... I think it just felt weird. Like I couldn't FULLY place myself in the role of Shepard. I did like her voice over Meer's alot of the time from viewing youtube vids (that cut dialogue with Anderson gets me EVERY time).
It was like Meer played it in kind of an exaggerated role to emphasize the Paragon or Renegade side and Hale kind of played it a bit more neutral or so (again, this is just from youtube, so it might not be the case).

I do think that Meer finally stepped it up in ME3. He didn't seem like an over the top boyscout giving a lecture or a souless jerkass anymore and I felt like playing renegon like I usually do felt extremely natural like Paragon/Renegade were more two different aspects to the same character instead of two different characters altogether. Thats just my opinion though

Some lines seemed more natural than others from either Jennifer Hale or Mark Meer at different times. Half the time I think one over acts or doesn't put enough into the line. Though I saw the female and male versions of Shepard viewing the Lazarus project footage on the Cerberus base mission and they both nail the lines perfectly with the right amount of emotion and doubt, but they do so in a way that's eerily identical. I've never seen that before. You should check that out on Youtube if you get a chance. I've got to give the voice director credit on that one. They both give comparable performances in that particular instance.

If you have Liara with you, Ali Hillis's cadence is a bit off, but yet she conveys the emotional part of it flawlessly. The dialog for that scene is really spot on for all versions of it I've seen. (I've seen the scene with Kaiden, Javik, Garrus, Liara, and Ashley.) Each character just gets it right for some reason. They seem to say exactly what you think they should say. It's a quick scene but it stood out as one of the best voiced and best written (dialog wise) in the game if not the whole series.

From a literary standpoint I know one analysis video calls into question the sense of the whole scene, but I don't think it was ever about sense, answering questions or even asking them. It proposes the idea that Shepard may not be Shepard and then immediately answers that question. It seems silly to ask a question then immediately answer it. Even I caught that when I first saw it. Still I don't think it was as much about needing it for the story to flow as much as it was there for emotional resonance and because it was interesting. And despite the fact that it seems needless, line delivery and the dialog itself makes up for it being thrown in like that.

[sistersafetypin]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

I'm a woman and I always play women. I project myself onto femshep very much. She looks like me, makes choices I would and I want Garrus babies! Sometimes I think about making a Sheploo but it would really come down to the fact that I would have him skip around in pink armor, sing into his hairbrush and ride ponies. I don't think the galaxy could handle him lol.

lol, I used to put Kaiden in Ash's Pink Armor just because I thought it made his character interesting...

Also, as an actual lesbian and a huge fan of Jennifer Hale's voice acting skills.. It was a no brainer, I always play as a femshep that always romances Liara. And if some of these guys that play as femShep have spent as many hours as I have on this series... .As in literally 100+ hours on both ME & 2 the 20 something hours it took to finish ME3...

You grow to connect with your characters. Hence that promise to Liara for a lot of people meant something

Modifié par sistersafetypin, 19 avril 2012 - 05:15 .

[Dawson14]

All good comments so far, but the blue baby supporters are quiet! I need explanations straight from the source!

[sistersafetypin]

There you go, edited my comment to expand

[Dead_Meat357]

I would find it a bit disturbing if Liara just had Shepard's kid without asking. I know you can endorse the idea at the end of LOtSB in ME2, but it would be out of place for her not to at least check with Shepard before hand. It is the one thing she's actually consistent at doing. She gives Shepard no less than 4 chances to back out of a relationship. Even if you greet her with a kiss in ME2, then grab her and kiss her again after killing the Shadow Broker, she still checks with Shepard and never presumes to know what he or she wants at any time.

The welcome was fairly warm on Mars, and again on the Normandy, where again she checks. Her personality has been all over the map in each game but this is the one thing she always does consistently from ME1 to ME3. Now I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see a happy ending where this is a possibility at some point, but hopefully we aren't talking about nor endorsing her ninjapregnating herself without asking.

Modifié par Dead_Meat357, 19 avril 2012 - 05:21 .

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

Dead_Meat357 wrote...

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

I never played as Femshep (I'll probably get myself to do it one of these days) because.. I don't know really... I think it just felt weird. Like I couldn't FULLY place myself in the role of Shepard. I did like her voice over Meer's alot of the time from viewing youtube vids (that cut dialogue with Anderson gets me EVERY time).
It was like Meer played it in kind of an exaggerated role to emphasize the Paragon or Renegade side and Hale kind of played it a bit more neutral or so (again, this is just from youtube, so it might not be the case).

I do think that Meer finally stepped it up in ME3. He didn't seem like an over the top boyscout giving a lecture or a souless jerkass anymore and I felt like playing renegon like I usually do felt extremely natural like Paragon/Renegade were more two different aspects to the same character instead of two different characters altogether. Thats just my opinion though

Some lines seemed more natural than others from either Jennifer Hale or Mark Meer at different times. Half the time I think one over acts or doesn't put enough into the line. Though I saw the female and male versions of Shepard viewing the Lazarus project footage on the Cerberus base mission and they both nail the lines perfectly with the right amount of emotion and doubt, but they do so in a way that's eerily identical. I've never seen that before. You should check that out on Youtube if you get a chance. I've got to give the voice director credit on that one. They both give comparable performances in that particular instance.

If you have Liara with you, Ali Hillis's cadence is a bit off, but yet she conveys the emotional part of it flawlessly. The dialog for that scene is really spot on for all versions of it I've seen. (I've seen the scene with Kaiden, Javik, Garrus, Liara, and Ashley.) Each character just gets it right for some reason. They seem to say exactly what you think they should say. It's a quick scene but it stood out as one of the best voiced and best written (dialog wise) in the game if not the whole series.

From a literary standpoint I know one analysis video calls into question the sense of the whole scene, but I don't think it was ever about sense, answering questions or even asking them. It proposes the idea that Shepard may not be Shepard and then immediately answers that question. It seems silly to ask a question then immediately answer it. Even I caught that when I first saw it. Still I don't think it was as much about needing it for the story to flow as much as it was there for emotional resonance and because it was interesting. And despite the fact that it seems needless, line delivery and the dialog itself makes up for it being thrown in like that.

Yeah. I think they each had their shining moments and their.. well.. crappy moments.  Like I really liked how tense Meer sounded when he was berating Joker after Thessia as opposed to Hale handled those lines.  

I didn't bring Liara to the Cerberus base, but doesn't she confirm that its really you?  I'll be honest, I thought it was going to reveal a MAJOR plot twist and explain why Cerberus/Harbinger was interested in your body in the first place.  I was so excited I think I missed Garrus comment on it.  I think it was something to the effect of "it doesn't matter."  While thats still pretty emotional, I couldn't feel it because it felt like such a letdown when nothing came of it haha

[sistersafetypin]

Dead_Meat357 wrote...

I would find it a bit disturbing if Liara just had Shepard's kid without asking. I know you can endorse the idea at the end of LOtSB in ME2, but it would be out of place for her not to at least check with Shepard before hand. It is the one thing she's actually consistent at doing. She gives Shepard no less than 4 chances to back out of a relationship. Even if you greet her with a kiss in ME2, then grab her and kiss her again after killing the Shadow Broker, she still checks with Shepard and never presumes to know what he or she wants at any time.

The welcome was fairly warm on Mars, and again on the Normandy, where again she checks. Her personality has been all over the map in each game but this is the one thing she always does consistently from ME1 to ME3. Now I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see a happy ending where this is a possibility at some point, but hopefully we aren't talking about nor endorsing her ninjapregnating herself without asking.

All evidence points to Liara never betraying your trust in such a way. Why are people now so suddenly willing to believe she would do such thing? Especially with a shepard she isn't romancing?

[tekkaman fear]

Liara is the LI for both my man Shep and Femshep.
I really dig Liara.

As for grown men crying over blue babies i am hoping those guys are exaggerating. I was under the impression that most people expressing over the top emotions in the threads in question r females.

[Dead_Meat357]

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

Dead_Meat357 wrote...

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

I never played as Femshep (I'll probably get myself to do it one of these days) because.. I don't know really... I think it just felt weird. Like I couldn't FULLY place myself in the role of Shepard. I did like her voice over Meer's alot of the time from viewing youtube vids (that cut dialogue with Anderson gets me EVERY time).
It was like Meer played it in kind of an exaggerated role to emphasize the Paragon or Renegade side and Hale kind of played it a bit more neutral or so (again, this is just from youtube, so it might not be the case).

I do think that Meer finally stepped it up in ME3. He didn't seem like an over the top boyscout giving a lecture or a souless jerkass anymore and I felt like playing renegon like I usually do felt extremely natural like Paragon/Renegade were more two different aspects to the same character instead of two different characters altogether. Thats just my opinion though

Some lines seemed more natural than others from either Jennifer Hale or Mark Meer at different times. Half the time I think one over acts or doesn't put enough into the line. Though I saw the female and male versions of Shepard viewing the Lazarus project footage on the Cerberus base mission and they both nail the lines perfectly with the right amount of emotion and doubt, but they do so in a way that's eerily identical. I've never seen that before. You should check that out on Youtube if you get a chance. I've got to give the voice director credit on that one. They both give comparable performances in that particular instance.

If you have Liara with you, Ali Hillis's cadence is a bit off, but yet she conveys the emotional part of it flawlessly. The dialog for that scene is really spot on for all versions of it I've seen. (I've seen the scene with Kaiden, Javik, Garrus, Liara, and Ashley.) Each character just gets it right for some reason. They seem to say exactly what you think they should say. It's a quick scene but it stood out as one of the best voiced and best written (dialog wise) in the game if not the whole series.

From a literary standpoint I know one analysis video calls into question the sense of the whole scene, but I don't think it was ever about sense, answering questions or even asking them. It proposes the idea that Shepard may not be Shepard and then immediately answers that question. It seems silly to ask a question then immediately answer it. Even I caught that when I first saw it. Still I don't think it was as much about needing it for the story to flow as much as it was there for emotional resonance and because it was interesting. And despite the fact that it seems needless, line delivery and the dialog itself makes up for it being thrown in like that.

Yeah. I think they each had their shining moments and their.. well.. crappy moments.  Like I really liked how tense Meer sounded when he was berating Joker after Thessia as opposed to Hale handled those lines.  

I didn't bring Liara to the Cerberus base, but doesn't she confirm that its really you?  I'll be honest, I thought it was going to reveal a MAJOR plot twist and explain why Cerberus/Harbinger was interested in your body in the first place.  I was so excited I think I missed Garrus comment on it.  I think it was something to the effect of "it doesn't matter."  While thats still pretty emotional, I couldn't feel it because it felt like such a letdown when nothing came of it haha

You can see for yourself. This is if you romanced her. I don't know if this player was faithful the whole time or even if there are variations on this dialog.

Also, in the scene you mentioned, and in every scene where Shepard is pissed off, angry or whatever he sounds a bit like Kevin Conroy.

Modifié par Dead_Meat357, 19 avril 2012 - 05:42 .

[Mavaras]

Then again, to understand the primordial image of woman, a man would have to acknowledge fertility and the birthing process as being integral to what is feminine. To ameliorate his underdeveloped anima, or perhaps to drop his persona and experience an overactive anima, he takes fascination with the act of child birthing, as the act epitomizes the overall experience of feimininity. On the other hand, perhaps he is fulfilling some goddess/fertility fantasy where he wishes to feel like a feminine being worthy of worship for her act of creation. Or, they just like dat ass.

Seriously, I need to stop drinking and put down the Jung lol.

Modifié par Mavaras, 19 avril 2012 - 05:27 .

[DazenCobalt17]

tekkaman fear wrote...

Only time in the entire trilogy Femshep didn't feel right was the sparring match with vega. That just felt very wrong. This huge guy punching her in the head and not knocking the hell outta her was kinda unbelievable. I wish they would have had a different scene for femshep.

As for why I use a Femshep...I like bad girls that can kick butt dammit. And I'd rather stare at a hot chick for hrs if given a choice than I would a guy.

I can understand why you feel that way but at the same time if they had have changed that scene for femshep I would have been annoyed. I do understand the logic and no it's not realistic however she has shown some strength through out the series. in me 1 she effortlessly picked up kaiden/Ashley before Virmire went all explodey. In Me2 she went toe to to with a yagh. In three she supports grunt after the battle. keep in mind krogan can be up to a ton(iirc) in full armor.  That's a feat for even male shep.

My point is I want my femshep be just as capable as male shep. I do not like the idea of her being "pampered" nor held to a lower standard simply because she's female.  I know I know, it's not realistic and yes men from a general standpoint are stronger than females.  However I think we can let her strength slide.  It is a video game afterall.  I feel like if they had of changed somethings it would have pandered to the sterotype that there are no such thing as a strong woman.

btw I am a woman

[Pee Jae]

Two reasons.

1. Jennifer Hale. It's like being with an old friend.
2. Dat ass. Probably sexist, but it is the truth. I would rather stare at FemShep than Male Shep for 30+ hours.

[Aweus]

Oh dear God. This thread again. I read it pretty much on every forum of any game that lets you play a female character. Look. People play games with different mindsets. Some people like to think of their protagonists as virtual versions of themselfs. I, as an example of another mindset, NEVER do that. I just cant imagine myself saving galaxies or fighting dragons. Instead I observe what other characters are doing. When I have a decission to make in Mass Effect I am not asking myself what I would do. I am asking myself what Shepard would do. I tend to enjoy male and female protagonists but I admit I have a bias towards female ones. Why? Since I am not associating myself as protagonist, I might as well want my character to be cool. And since I am a heterosexual male I often find females to be more cool than males. Simple as that. Seriously, female is a best "thing" that evolution invented As for blue babies, I dont personally have that fetish but I guess many people find this resolution to be appealing. This is in no way better or worse from how you want to play your game. Just accept people aproach games with different mindsets. Asking why dude wants to play a girl is more appropriate for a 10-yo than 20+ as you say you are.

[Zambayoshi]

Mavaras wrote...

... Or, they just like dat ass.

Yup.

[obtuse4ngle]

What da fuq, OP (and all the other guys posting how they don't have the b***s to play female)!

As a "person-of-color" (who happens to be female), I have NEVER--and I do mean, never--ever played a video game where the "canon" character happens to be my sex and race. So what's your question? "How can you immerse yourself into a character that is not you?" Answer: The character is not me. I'm halfway through Deus Ex: HE and every time I pause the game, people stop calling me Jensen.

By your logic, there should be no straight women playing Sheploo who romances a girl. And we do exist.

Come here, OP. I'll give this to you gently. *PIMP SLAP* Shepard is NOT you! S/he's a character that someone sat in a dark room and penned. S/he's not a person. Therefore, whatever and however you want to play him/her is legit and has nothing to do with your gender, sexual orientation, sex preferences, etc.

@Mavaras: You are SO cute! Can I take you home with me?

[Dawson14]

Aweus wrote...

Oh dear God. This thread again. I read it pretty much on every forum of any game that lets you play a female character. Look. People play games with different mindsets. Some people like to think of their protagonists as virtual versions of themselfs. I, as an example of another mindset, NEVER do that. I just cant imagine myself saving galaxies or fighting dragons. Instead I observe what other characters are doing. When I have a decission to make in Mass Effect I am not asking myself what I would do. I am asking myself what Shepard would do. I tend to enjoy male and female protagonists but I admit I have a bias towards female ones. Why? Since I am not associating myself as protagonist, I might as well want my character to be cool. And since I am a heterosexual male I often find females to be more cool than males. Simple as that. Seriously, female is a best "thing" that evolution invented As for blue babies, I dont personally have that fetish but I guess many people find this resolution to be appealing. This is in no way better or worse from how you want to play your game. Just accept people aproach games with different mindsets. Asking why dude wants to play a girl is more appropriate for a 10-yo than 20+ as you say you are.

I think my questions are pretty specific to this game, but way to generalize and not answer most of my questions while having a condensending and toolish tone. Sorry, I don't frequent forums as much as you and have this discussion whenever there is a choice between male and female. I have not seen this topic come up in this section, nor have I ever participated in one relating to another game. We all seem to be having a productive adult conversation here except for your 10 year old defensive response.

[Dead_Meat357]

DazenCobalt17 wrote...

tekkaman fear wrote...

Only time in the entire trilogy Femshep didn't feel right was the sparring match with vega. That just felt very wrong. This huge guy punching her in the head and not knocking the hell outta her was kinda unbelievable. I wish they would have had a different scene for femshep.

As for why I use a Femshep...I like bad girls that can kick butt dammit. And I'd rather stare at a hot chick for hrs if given a choice than I would a guy.

I can understand why you feel that way but at the same time if they had have changed that scene for femshep I would have been annoyed. I do understand the logic and no it's not realistic however she has shown some strength through out the series. in me 1 she effortlessly picked up kaiden/Ashley before Virmire went all explodey. In Me2 she went toe to to with a yagh. In three she supports grunt after the battle. keep in mind krogan can be up to a ton(iirc) in full armor.  That's a feat for even male shep.

My point is I want my femshep be just as capable as male shep. I do not like the idea of her being "pampered" nor held to a lower standard simply because she's female.  I know I know, it's not realistic and yes men from a general standpoint are stronger than females.  However I think we can let her strength slide.  It is a video game afterall.  I feel like if they had of changed somethings it would have pandered to the sterotype that there are no such thing as a strong woman.

btw I am a woman

Ultimately this is one of the things I think BioWare can have a pass on. You'd have to be Vega's strength or larger to really support Grunt. The fact of the matter is that if you approached this realistically a lot of changes would have to be made to the entire game, and you'd end up with a lot of different scenes for male and female Shepards. Part of the charm of the series, even if it is by omission rather than careful writing is that barely anyone acknowledge's Shepard's gender or thinks he or she is less capable due to the gender.

Though in the universe one can explain Shepard's strength in two ways. 

1.) All Alliance soldiers go through genetic enhancement. This not only corrects for certain defects like stigmatisms (which I believe Ashley had the problem) but probably enhances them to some degree.
2.) Shepard has been rebuilt by Cerberus and does incorporate cybernetics. While they never touch on exactly what this does, and in fact paragon Shepard says almost nothing about it, renegade Shepard comments to the Illusive Man on the fact that he noticed "some improvements." Again this isn't clarified to any large degree, but it explains why both male and female Shepards are much stronger than they should be.

On the reverse side Asari and females of other species may not understand a male Shepard. But across the board they are treated almost universally the same. The only point in which that wasn't really the case is on Omega when FemShep walks into the Mercenary recruiters area to try and join the fight to take out Archangel. The Batarian seems to mistake her for a dancer and not a real soldier and she of course brings the guy's manhood into question. now this goes against the normal grain of "treat ManShep and FemShep the same." However in this instance I think its done for comedic value and nothing more.

So while it isn't realistic, even in the future to totally avoid any kind of gender bias or acknowledgement of gender in some way, it's nice that they are treated pretty much equally and both male and female players can have the same experience for the most part. Romance options vary, and I have to praise this as well because the characters have personalities and part of that personality is sexual preference. The characters are not all made "bisexual" just so that there can be flat equality across the board. While this works as a game mechanic I have to say, I think overall what they've done was a better choice.

[Eterna]

I like to play female characters, specifically female characters who are strong and independent. I think it's because the big male hero archetype is just so boring and overdone imo.

As a guy, I have problem viewing the world from femsheps shoes, playing as her brings a new and interesting approach to problems that are typically handled by males. It just feels fresh.

I think anyone who can't play female characters is either immature, or insecure about their own masculinity. Just my opinion.

[Dawson14]

obtuse4ngle wrote...

What da fuq, OP (and all the other guys posting how they don't have the b***s to play female)!

As a "person-of-color" (who happens to be female), I have NEVER--and I do mean, never--ever played a video game where the "canon" character happens to be my sex and race. So what's your question? "How can you immerse yourself into a character that is not you?" Answer: The character is not me. I'm halfway through Deus Ex: HE and every time I pause the game, people stop calling me Jensen.

By your logic, there should be no straight women playing Sheploo who romances a girl. And we do exist.

Come here, OP. I'll give this to you gently. *PIMP SLAP* Shepard is NOT you! S/he's a character that someone sat in a dark room and penned. S/he's not a person. Therefore, whatever and however you want to play him/her is legit and has nothing to do with your gender, sexual orientation, sex preferences, etc.

@Mavaras: You are SO cute! Can I take you home with me?

In your opinion  you don't like playing as the character and therefore don't see yourself as the character. HOWEVER, I DO and so do others. I am not saying that everyone should play their own gender or demanding anything of that nature. I was simply asking questions to as why people do. That's it.

So maybe you should pimp slap yourself for your lack of reading comprehension;). But you do bring up an example to as why people like to play other genders, etc and how you can immerse yourself into that person. So thanks for that.

But still RPG's are supposed to be YOU role playing right? It's YOUR character that you chose to make. So do people not consider Mass Effect and RPG? Besides the ending, your choices do matter so I would consider it a form of an RPG.

[v TricKy v]

DazenCobalt17 wrote...

tekkaman fear wrote...

Only time in the entire trilogy Femshep didn't feel right was the sparring match with vega. That just felt very wrong. This huge guy punching her in the head and not knocking the hell outta her was kinda unbelievable. I wish they would have had a different scene for femshep.

As for why I use a Femshep...I like bad girls that can kick butt dammit. And I'd rather stare at a hot chick for hrs if given a choice than I would a guy.

I can understand why you feel that way but at the same time if they had have changed that scene for femshep I would have been annoyed. I do understand the logic and no it's not realistic however she has shown some strength through out the series. in me 1 she effortlessly picked up kaiden/Ashley before Virmire went all explodey. In Me2 she went toe to to with a yagh. In three she supports grunt after the battle. keep in mind krogan can be up to a ton(iirc) in full armor.  That's a feat for even male shep.

My point is I want my femshep be just as capable as male shep. I do not like the idea of her being "pampered" nor held to a lower standard simply because she's female.  I know I know, it's not realistic and yes men from a general standpoint are stronger than females.  However I think we can let her strength slide.  It is a video game afterall.  I feel like if they had of changed somethings it would have pandered to the sterotype that there are no such thing as a strong woman.

btw I am a woman

you both are also forgetting the Cerberus upgrades. ME2 Shepard isnt 100% Human anymore and you can upgrade things like more muscle power and stronger bones.