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[greghorvath]

Drummernate wrote...

*Isn't the Salarian Infiltrator just plain terrible?*

don't push it, nate...

[Drummernate]

greghorvath wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

*Isn't the Salarian Infiltrator just plain terrible?*

don't push it, nate...

Well, he does like 22.5% less damage than my Geth does with a Javelin.

And when you are talking 1000's of damage, %'s mean a lot.

Salarians are only really good versus Geth, as is noted in their energy drain skills.

Geth are good versus anything, as is noted in their everything skills.

[KainD]

Drummernate wrote...

Well, he does like 22.5% less damage than my Geth does with a Javelin.

And when you are talking 1000's of damage, %'s mean a lot.

Salarians are only really good versus Geth, as is noted in their energy drain skills.

Geth are good versus anything, as is noted in their everything skills.

Nah dude, Salarian is good against everything too. He compinsates for the damage with ED on shielded targets, handles armored targets less effectively, but still handles them well with cloak and proximity mine. And Javelin is.. a poor choice. 

[Renew81]

I dont think the Geth infiltrator is terrible it depends on what you want
the geth can do extra damage and seeing enemies sneaking up on you
and being able to see cloaked targets its pretty awesome also all the games
i have played with Geth infiltrator so far have resulted in pulling off more headshots.

However with my salarian i will be able to drain shields and dont always have to aim
for a headshot per se to get rid off a shielded target plus it will restore my own shields
increasing my survivability ( if you spec for that ) i would probably choose salarian
over geth on gold , but there pretty close together in my favorite list they both have
strong and weak points , but i find them both quite fun to play , when i play geth i miss
energy drain when i play salarian i wish i had hunter mode lol.. both are great in my opinion.

[Viquey]

If you don't like PM, yur doin' it rong.

Hunter Mode, Proximity Mine and Tactical Cloak altogether mean more single-shot damage output than any other class or character in the game.

I must say, though, everyone raving about the GPS on him make me sad. With even the tiniest bit of lag, that thing turns into a buggy piece of **** for me. If it weren't for that, it might be able to compete with the Claymore. Might.

But with the Claymore and well-placed proximity mines where necessary, he oneshots everything up to and including brutes and ravagers, shielded or not, on gold. I'm not sure the GPS can quite keep up with that; certainly not with any lag.

The point though is that the GI does NOT suck. Absolutely NOT. Yur doin' it rong, maybe. XD

[Drummernate]

KainD wrote...


Nah dude, Salarian is good against everything too. He compinsates for the damage with ED on shielded targets, handles armored targets less effectively, but still handles them well with cloak and proximity mine. And Javelin is.. a poor choice. 

Am I missing something here?...Without fighting synthetics you will only drain for 50% of your shields back. Combine this with a target that has shields down, or does not have shields, and you get 10% back.

Reapers only have 1 unit with shields and 1 unit with barriers. (Almost worthless to take ED for regenning shields)

Cerberus has 3 units with shields and 1 with barriers. (Semi Effective I suppose....)

Geth have all units with shields other than 1. (And you get 100% shields back, and 25% for draining a regular unshielded trooper.)

Javelin is the best sniper in the game, period.
Most accurate, most damaging, and most useful.

Sure the Black Widow shoots 3 times... at half the damage of a Javelin.
Sure you can take out an Atlas faster with it... if you reload glitch with the Black Widow but not the Javelin...
You get 3 shots to take out small targets on Gold, helping with shield gate.
I get the ability to forgoe headshots and still kill things in 1-2 shots.

[fixit6]

Claymore X is just so dang good on the GI.

The damage is ridculous and the razors edge playstyle is addictive.

If I want to snipe, I use quarian instead.

[RogenTAU]

I prefer Geth over Salarian for the simplicity of use, you only need to worry about cloaking and shooting, you doesn't need to coordinate another skill with that, you don't need need to shoot prepared targets, it is for me pure sniper, and it is class that benefit the most from black widow, thank to hunter mode buffs (reduced refair time, increased damage, and faster cloak reload.)

[KainD]

Drummernate wrote...

Am I missing something here?...Without fighting synthetics you will only drain for 50% of your shields back. Combine this with a target that has shields down, or does not have shields, and you get 10% back.

Reapers only have 1 unit with shields and 1 unit with barriers. (Almost worthless to take ED for regenning shields)

Cerberus has 3 units with shields and 1 with barriers. (Semi Effective I suppose....)

Geth have all units with shields other than 1. (And you get 100% shields back, and 25% for draining a regular unshielded trooper.)

Javelin is the best sniper in the game, period.
Most accurate, most damaging, and most useful.

Sure the Black Widow shoots 3 times... at half the damage of a Javelin.
Sure you can take out an Atlas faster with it... if you reload glitch with the Black Widow but not the Javelin...
You get 3 shots to take out small targets on Gold, helping with shield gate.
I get the ability to forgoe headshots and still kill things in 1-2 shots.

Who cares how much shields I get back? I use ED for damage and stuns, and of course I use proximity mine far more vs reapers. Salarian has the most useful power combo out of all the alternatives for an infiltrator besides the Geth one. Other than that, the most damage still comes from Cloak+GPS, which any infiltrator can do really. 

Javelin sucks because snipers suck. You need to shots for 1 target, I need 2 shots for 2 targets. =)

[greghorvath]

Drummernate wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

*Isn't the Salarian Infiltrator just plain terrible?*

don't push it, nate...

Well, he does like 22.5% less damage than my Geth does with a Javelin.

And when you are talking 1000's of damage, %'s mean a lot.

Salarians are only really good versus Geth, as is noted in their energy drain skills.

Geth are good versus anything, as is noted in their everything skills.

As I have stated before, I am not good at the science, I just kill stuff. So don't give me the stats, give me a GI that outscores my SI.  Actually, don't. I have lost my will to compete since I got my darling of a black widow. Since then, I just shoot and play for the team.

But as always, its not the class, its the player.

[KainD]

greghorvath wrote...

As I have stated before, I am not good at the science, I just kill stuff. So don't give me the stats, give me a GI that outscores my SI.  Actually, don't. I have lost my will to compete since I got my darling of a black widow. Since then, I just shoot and play for the team.

But as always, its not the class, its the player.

Nah dude, it's the class too. And I outscored myself with GI, I used to play SI. My gold solo time has improved by about 10 minutes. Used to be 40-50, now it is 30-40. 

[greghorvath]

KainD wrote...

Nah dude, it's the class too. And I outscored myself with GI, I used to play SI. My gold solo time has improved by about 10 minutes. Used to be 40-50, now it is 30-40. 

Are you on PC? nate is xbox I think.

[KainD]

greghorvath wrote...

KainD wrote...

Nah dude, it's the class too. And I outscored myself with GI, I used to play SI. My gold solo time has improved by about 10 minutes. Used to be 40-50, now it is 30-40. 

Are you on PC? nate is xbox I think.

Yes I'm on PC. It's a lot different on Xbox? 

[Drummernate]

KainD wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

KainD wrote...

Nah dude, it's the class too. And I outscored myself with GI, I used to play SI. My gold solo time has improved by about 10 minutes. Used to be 40-50, now it is 30-40. 

Are you on PC? nate is xbox I think.

Yes I'm on PC. It's a lot different on Xbox? 

Other than you being able to remap stuff if you really want, no.

We get autoaim.... what a great help that is. <_<

(I am on Xbox by the way. My PC is garbage unfortunately.)

Modifié par Drummernate, 19 avril 2012 - 12:40 .

[total47]

Proximity Mine on a melee-oriented Geth Infiltrator is amazing. It's one of the best damage dealers around.

[KainD]

Drummernate wrote...

We get autoaim.... what a great help that is. <_<

Haha! That's how the guy beat gold with a black widow in 29 min. Aimbot! Xbox sucks, you have no skills! 

jk, jk. 

[SunTzuStu]

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[BraveLToaster]

Trix-Rabbit wrote...

I like Prox mine, however, you cant really take it on a GI, you really need to max your fitness or you die very very fast in hunter mode.

Try 4/5/6/6/5 if you want a fitness heavy GI.  There's little to gain in the last two ranks of cloak unless you're going for a melee or sniper build.

If you really want you can sacrifice rank 6 Networked AI for 6 Fitness as well.

Modifié par BraveLToaster, 19 avril 2012 - 12:58 .

[KainD]

BraveLToaster wrote...

Try 4/5/6/6/5 if you want a fitness heavy GI.  There's little to gain in the last two ranks of cloak unless you're going for a melee or sniper build.

Erm, I use a GPS build and the extra power helps a lot. 

[BraveLToaster]

KainD wrote...

BraveLToaster wrote...

Try 4/5/6/6/5 if you want a fitness heavy GI.  There's little to gain in the last two ranks of cloak unless you're going for a melee or sniper build.

Erm, I use a GPS build and the extra power helps a lot. 

You can easily fit in Mine, Charged Shot, Quickshot off the charge, normal shot without it.

[Greystone]

I will concede that the geth infiltrator has some very useful abilities and is no doubt one of the strongest classes in the game.  Hunter mode+any sniper rifle with piercing mod makes him extremely efficient.  Not only can you shoot enemies through walls, but you cannot be snuck up on either.  That is very powerful.

The geth infiltrator also has the highest damage output.

All that said the salarian infiltrator can 1-2 enemies in gold with energy drain+headshot.  It should also be considered that a salarian infiltrator against let's say reapers could ed+headshot a marauder and then kill 2 weaker enemies with a valiant or black widow on gold. I don't believe a geth infiltrator can do this because regardless if they have a javelin 10 they still have to deal with the shield gate on gold.  So at best it would take you 2 shots to down the marauder and leave you one weak enemy to kill. 

The salarian also replenishes shields with ed and stuns non-shielding enemies and still staggers many others even shielded.

If you look at the human infiltrator he looks like garbage until you realize how powerful a human infiltrator is with a good shotgun, especially a claymore.  With cryo blast you do 25% more damage to the target AND weaken their armor by 25%.  That's a strong combo.  I can't count how many times cryo blast has slowed a phantom down enough that crept up on me to get away and then 1-2 shot it from cover.

I used to think the salarian was bar none the best and I still think he's awesome, but I feel all 3 of these are pretty much equal.  If you have good positioning skills and know when to advance and retreat a human infiltrator with shotgun can be just as effective if not more so than the others especially against enemies that get into melee range of you which will happen now and then regardless of your skill.

Modifié par Greystone, 19 avril 2012 - 01:03 .

[KainD]

BraveLToaster wrote...

You can easily fit in Mine, Charged Shot, Quickshot off the charge, normal shot without it.

But I fit in 2 mines and 3 shots all from cloak. 

[Drummernate]

KainD wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

We get autoaim.... what a great help that is. <_<

Haha! That's how the guy beat gold with a black widow in 29 min. Aimbot! Xbox sucks, you have no skills! 

jk, jk. 

If it isn't trying to kill those darn swarmers... <_<

[BraveLToaster]

You also spend more time on cooldown that way.