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More dissapointing sequel? Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3?


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You guys, when I said "gay sex", and this will NOT be a thread to discuss sexuality issues, as I do not wish for it to be locked down. Ahem, as I was saying, when I said "all the gay sex", I meant that is was an element added in the final game [ME3] that felt like it was trying to illustrate a point to the player (regardless if the player chooses to participate in it or not) that didn't resonate, given that it was added in this late into the trilogy. ME2 and Mass Effect didn't have gay sex, why did the series need to have it now? When I watched End of Evangelion, I never understood what I was I was supposed to comprehend when I saw Shinji, a 14-year-old boy, kiss Misato, an adult female. I was gonna post a youtube link, but then it felt too weird.

Oh, and I'm not gonna even mention the hospital scene in the film, either.

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ok, i agree with everything you said. except for the gay guy sex, and later your explanation down below, made it only worse. so bad that even a member of the KKK looks like a sweet little angel, compared to you.

Gay sex was not forced upon anyone. the game had a Gay character. is that bad? and what decadence are you talking about? do you mean, the wave of hatred, mass murdering, and constant wars, caused by Religion through out the dark ages untill now?

other than the Gay comment, crap you just made. i totally agree with you . ME3 was a rushed game, very unpolished. very short, with 0 replayability, questing journal was the worse i've seen, bad quality textures all over. horrible new characters with horrible voice acting that bring nothing to the story, such as diana allers. war assets meaning nothing. and finally, the horrendeous ending.

ME3 without a doubt is one of worse games in bioware history

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ME3 was FAR worse for me. I really liked DA2 and have done over half a dozen playthroughs and never once did I feel depressed while playing or at the end. IMO, DA2 was more bang for my buck in the entertainment department. Poor Shepard got screwed. :'(

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ME3 easily. It was the end of the trilogy. It was the continuation of Shepard's story. And it was stupid. DAII wasn't a sequel, it was a story set in the same universe. That right there makes it less disappointing. You don't care about these new characters the same way you care about the characters that you've been with in the ME series for 5 years. You don't have any expectations for that story like you do for ME. DAII wasn't great, but I didn't feel betrayed the way ME3 made me feel.

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i loved ME2.

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freler31 wrote...

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3. Homophobia wasn't actually a term until 1969, when it was coined by George Weinberg in a May 23rd, 1969 edition issue of a weekly pornographic tabloid called Screw. The values of civilization will continue to follow through decadence as long as it's media and propaganda seeks to administer to the men who seek the same level as recognition actual social classes do (ethnic minorities, poor, rich, African-Americans, Asains, Caucasions, Americans, Hispanics). If you think people saying that they dislike gay sex is considered a form of homophobia or hate speech, people saying that they dislike beastality will be considered hate speech as well in the future. I wonder what they will call that? Beastiphobia?



You're comparing disliking what consenting adults do in private with disliking the abuse of animals. You need to grow the hell up.


Prostitution has always been consenting, too, hasn't it? Oh, and I can sense hypocrisy in your statement. When was the last time you ate a hamburger? Don't worry, [whispers in your ear] I ate one too.

Modifié par Brony4LIFE, 19 avril 2012 - 06:14 .


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Savber100 wrote...

Dragon Age 2.

That game killed my love for the franchise. Mass Effect 3 was excellent until the end in my opinion.



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This isn't even a question, in my mind.

ME3, like all the other ME games, had bad ideas that didn't work and did quite a few things wrong, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. All the real important stuff either worked or was *very* easy to mod out.

DA2 was one big mess. It was like a tutorial about how not to design an RPG. Initially it worked well, but the second half of the game was some of the worst stuff I've seen from bioware.

DA2, no question. ME3 shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.

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ME 3

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DA2 was the biggest letdown for me for 2 reasons
1] It felt completely disconnected from and unrelated to the original, all I liked about DA2 was the battle setup (hitting numerous enemies with a huge 2hander, because you WOULD and wielding a staff like a BAAAAWWWWSSS!),
2] Havn't played ME3 yet, and with all the negative reviews I see, I dont think I will be trying it any time soon. Bioware (or whoever is truely responsible for these sequel's poor state) really needs to reassess their views of "a good game that will make them money"

-inb4 "Tryb4ufry" comment, in my experience the views shown on the BSN site for the most part reflect my own views and with the feelings about DA2, forgive me if I am a little shy about walking into the game store and forking out however much for a game that I feel I will be putting at the back of my shelf 30mins later never to look at again.

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Brony4LIFE wrote...

freler31 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...


3. Homophobia wasn't actually a term until 1969, when it was coined by George Weinberg in a May 23rd, 1969 edition issue of a weekly pornographic tabloid called Screw. The values of civilization will continue to follow through decadence as long as it's media and propaganda seeks to administer to the men who seek the same level as recognition actual social classes do (ethnic minorities, poor, rich, African-Americans, Asains, Caucasions, Americans, Hispanics). If you think people saying that they dislike gay sex is considered a form of homophobia or hate speech, people saying that they dislike beastality will be considered hate speech as well in the future. I wonder what they will call that? Beastiphobia?



You're comparing disliking what consenting adults do in private with disliking the abuse of animals. You need to grow the hell up.


Prostitution has always been consenting, too, hasn't it? Oh, and I can sense hypocrisy in your statement. When was the last time you ate a hamburger? Don't worry, [whispers in your ear] I ate one too.


 Same sex romance isn't the same as prostitution.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...

freler31 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...


3. Homophobia wasn't actually a term until 1969, when it was coined by George Weinberg in a May 23rd, 1969 edition issue of a weekly pornographic tabloid called Screw. The values of civilization will continue to follow through decadence as long as it's media and propaganda seeks to administer to the men who seek the same level as recognition actual social classes do (ethnic minorities, poor, rich, African-Americans, Asains, Caucasions, Americans, Hispanics). If you think people saying that they dislike gay sex is considered a form of homophobia or hate speech, people saying that they dislike beastality will be considered hate speech as well in the future. I wonder what they will call that? Beastiphobia?



You're comparing disliking what consenting adults do in private with disliking the abuse of animals. You need to grow the hell up.


Prostitution has always been consenting, too, hasn't it? Oh, and I can sense hypocrisy in your statement. When was the last time you ate a hamburger? Don't worry, [whispers in your ear] I ate one too.


 Same sex romance isn't the same as prostitution.

I said this once before, and I'll say it one time only. This will NOT be a thread about sexuality issues. I do not want lockdown.

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Never actually got around to finishing dragon age 2, so I cannot currently give a comment on it. But from what I played, it didn't disappoint me nearly as much as the lack luster take back earth and onward.

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Mass Effect 3 of course. Simply because it was supposed to be a grand finale of a grand trilogy. But it completely destroyed the whole trilogy instead.

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Deano1981 wrote...

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Thank you very much, ser. :D

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I'd say DA2, I actually liked most of ME3.

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Mass Effect 3. But only because of the ending.

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Brony4LIFE wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...

freler31 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...


3. Homophobia wasn't actually a term until 1969, when it was coined by George Weinberg in a May 23rd, 1969 edition issue of a weekly pornographic tabloid called Screw. The values of civilization will continue to follow through decadence as long as it's media and propaganda seeks to administer to the men who seek the same level as recognition actual social classes do (ethnic minorities, poor, rich, African-Americans, Asains, Caucasions, Americans, Hispanics). If you think people saying that they dislike gay sex is considered a form of homophobia or hate speech, people saying that they dislike beastality will be considered hate speech as well in the future. I wonder what they will call that? Beastiphobia?



You're comparing disliking what consenting adults do in private with disliking the abuse of animals. You need to grow the hell up.


Prostitution has always been consenting, too, hasn't it? Oh, and I can sense hypocrisy in your statement. When was the last time you ate a hamburger? Don't worry, [whispers in your ear] I ate one too.


 Same sex romance isn't the same as prostitution.

I said this once before, and I'll say it one time only. This will NOT be a thread about sexuality issues. I do not want lockdown.


 Then I suggest you edit your Original post, anyone who reads this thread will totally disregard everything you've said and narrow in on that. Don't put gay sex in your post if you don't wish to discuss it.

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 Dragon Age 2 is more disappointing sequel as ccompared than Mass effect3.I expected more from Dragan age2 but it disappointed me a lot.
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Neither were full blown disappointments for me. I actually enjoyed Dragon Age 2 (and no, I'm not blind to it's flaws and shortcomings) and I very much enjoyed Mass Effect 3 right up until the ending. There were things about both games that disappointed me but overall I liked both games.

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DA2 was such a letdown, and much more damaging to the series. Regardless of how people feel about the last 10 minutes of ME3, it doesn't change the fact that the other 35 hours of the game was amazing.

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Mass Effect #2 was and is fail to me.

No gay sex = no approval.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...

freler31 wrote...

Brony4LIFE wrote...


3. Homophobia wasn't actually a term until 1969, when it was coined by George Weinberg in a May 23rd, 1969 edition issue of a weekly pornographic tabloid called Screw. The values of civilization will continue to follow through decadence as long as it's media and propaganda seeks to administer to the men who seek the same level as recognition actual social classes do (ethnic minorities, poor, rich, African-Americans, Asains, Caucasions, Americans, Hispanics). If you think people saying that they dislike gay sex is considered a form of homophobia or hate speech, people saying that they dislike beastality will be considered hate speech as well in the future. I wonder what they will call that? Beastiphobia?



You're comparing disliking what consenting adults do in private with disliking the abuse of animals. You need to grow the hell up.


Prostitution has always been consenting, too, hasn't it? Oh, and I can sense hypocrisy in your statement. When was the last time you ate a hamburger? Don't worry, [whispers in your ear] I ate one too.


 Same sex romance isn't the same as prostitution.

I said this once before, and I'll say it one time only. This will NOT be a thread about sexuality issues. I do not want lockdown.


 Then I suggest you edit your Original post, anyone who reads this thread will totally disregard everything you've said and narrow in on that. Don't put gay sex in your post if you don't wish to discuss it.


Agreed, you touch upon a sensitive issue and expect to stop the conversation that is sure to follow by saying you don't want to have one.
Apart from that you practically dumbed down all issues of the contemporary world, by calling the sole idea of equality decadent. 

BTW, I haven't eaten a hamburger, or any made from animals product for the past 7 years, so I find that argument kind of invalid. There are people, you know, that actually find the idea of leaving animals in peace not only plausible, but already in motion. 

Mass Media and the availability of information did not make the issues you're not in agreement with, it only made people realize that there's more of such people, who hate intolerance and injustice all around the world than they previously thought. 

Sex as seen in binary dichotomy, as a male and female, in relation to humans, was coined by Darwin not so long before the coinage of Homophobia. And in Ancient Greece to sole idea of an emotional attachement to a woman, or a desire towards such other than the need of reproduction, was unthinkable and downright repugnant. 
If Ashley can throw her Christianity in my face in ME1, then as sure as hell should Cortez and, if approached that way, Kaidan, Samantha and Liara be allowed to throw their sexuality in it.

Edit:
And to answer the main question, I'd go with ME3.
I loved the game until the very ending, but he ending made it a winner.
I enjoyed DA2, because, despite what Bioware said about it, I just couldn't find any real "sequel" in it, instead, I got quite a personal and emotional story of Hawke. And I loved the characters, none of them appeared "blank" to me, like Leliana and Zevran did in DaO.

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Dragon Age 2.
Although the ending of ME3 is disappointing, DA2 as a whole game is much more worse in every way. Reused environments, paratrooper waves of enemies, one boring city with a few places around. The most annoying thing in DA2 are the characters, f.e. an female elf which you want to give headbutts every time she opens the mouth, a pirate ****, an anime style elf warrior, leaders of factions, which turn into psychopaths before the end etc. None of the characters in DA2  is as awesome as the characters in Origins
And until now there is also no real ending in DA2, only two forced boss fights.

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ME3, without a doubt. Basically ruined the whole series for me with that craptastic end. Not enough choice in dialogue, WAY too much autodialogue and everything fails in the end. So yeah, I was incredibly dissapointed in ME3.


DA2 just felt like a spin off of DAO. Apart from being in the same world, they didn't feel like the same game. The combat was awesome (could have used less button mashing though) especially when a mage, I loved it. Though it was fairly sloppy and reused enviroments became a bore, the good points outway the bad ones; Personally I think the Bioware team did a fantastic job with the sh!t time span they were given.