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Startkabel wrote...

Listen why don't you just stop replying and ignore this post if you are done with the discussion. You want me to search and read true 500 of pages with discussions?
No I want to start a new discussion and use the forum how it is meant to be so go **** yourself.

Like I said I like the game how it was intented to be but not as it is now.


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Startkabel wrote...

  • Because everybody is farming Geth on FB:White nowadays
    Probably, some money grubbing sales people @ BW came with the stupid idea to have some sort of gambling store in MP. Now people only care about earning credits and exploid the glitch in FB: White in order to get as many credits as quickly as possible.
    When you search for games with any enemy or map you have a very big chance to end up with Geth on FB: White. No you should not search for specific maps or enemies, BW should fix the map.
  • MP is suffering from far too many gameplay ruining bugs.
    Her is the long list with confirmed bugs http://social.biowar.../index/11043318
    Enemies fall true the map making it impossible to finish the game, enemies become invinsible. The Batarian blades do not work behind walls, store purchases fail, connections to the EA servers are suddenly lost ending your game, weapons are bugged or suddenly stop doing damage at all. The list of bugs is endless
  • Characters are not balanced
    The Asari Adept that has Stasis, Warp and Throw can make several combinations to create Biotic Detonations and is probably still the most effective character in the game. The Salarian Infiltrator has Cloak and drain and makes the fastest kills. The soldier for example is a useless character compared to these characters and also there is no character that can make use of tech burst as effectively as other characters can make use of the Biotic Detonations because there is not a single character that can make Tech Burst on his own. You can say that Biotics are overpowered at least
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You have some legitamate points and I agree with you many of the other classes are significantly less than optimal.

The rest of the people who are ****ing at you for dareing to voice dissent about the game are a cancer that eats the heart of video gaming companies they are the people directly responsible for devs thinking that releasing buggy **** is fine because these people feed into a perpetuating cycle where they force people who are having problems to not voice their issues driving the playerbase away.

News flash ****ers multiplayer already has a declining playerbase if these issues don't eventually get fixed you wont have any one left to play with.

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Why are you so ignorant and defend the game so fanatically when the forum is full of confirmations. My own experience? No obviously not.
Like the title of the forum section says, it is meant for dicussions, what is exacly what is going in here. FAIL

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siffers wrote...

Startkabel wrote...

  • Because everybody is farming Geth on FB:White nowadays
    Probably, some money grubbing sales people @ BW came with the stupid idea to have some sort of gambling store in MP. Now people only care about earning credits and exploid the glitch in FB: White in order to get as many credits as quickly as possible.
    When you search for games with any enemy or map you have a very big chance to end up with Geth on FB: White. No you should not search for specific maps or enemies, BW should fix the map.

  • MP is suffering from far too many gameplay ruining bugs.
    Her is the long list with confirmed bugs http://social.biowar.../index/11043318
    Enemies fall true the map making it impossible to finish the game, enemies become invinsible. The Batarian blades do not work behind walls, store purchases fail, connections to the EA servers are suddenly lost ending your game, weapons are bugged or suddenly stop doing damage at all. The list of bugs is endless

  • Characters are not balanced
    The Asari Adept that has Stasis, Warp and Throw can make several combinations to create Biotic Detonations and is probably still the most effective character in the game. The Salarian Infiltrator has Cloak and drain and makes the fastest kills. The soldier for example is a useless character compared to these characters and also there is no character that can make use of tech burst as effectively as other characters can make use of the Biotic Detonations because there is not a single character that can make Tech Burst on his own. You can say that Biotics are overpowered at least

  • Diablo3 is coming out 15 May and Mass Effect will be forgotten Image IPB


You have some legitamate points and I agree with you many of the other classes are significantly less than optimal.

The rest of the people who are ****ing at you for dareing to voice dissent about the game are a cancer that eats the heart of video gaming companies they are the people directly responsible for devs thinking that releasing buggy **** is fine because these people feed into a perpetuating cycle where they force people who are having problems to not voice their issues driving the playerbase away.

News flash ****ers multiplayer already has a declining playerbase if these issues don't eventually get fixed you wont have any one left to play with.

Exactly this

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Didnt mention anything about not having à disucussion FAIL

I dont defending the game i defend THE fact that there are a million of these useless whiny Posts on BSN yet they are all solveable with the Same bloody answers

Dont be lazy and start using the damn search button.

You say fbw gold geth isnt fun

Others might enjoy it (personally i dont but some do)

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They are not op just good tiers, whereas they are not good in bronze And silver as you can't finish your combo's as all die fast.

There is where soldiers etc. Are good.

Some classes are made for gold others not, others are made for bronze and silver.

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Bye, bye. Please let the door hit you're on your way out.

Modifié par Clearly Balkan, 19 avril 2012 - 08:55 .


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Im enjoying this discussion :) I love it when people get upset about retarded ****. Youre prolly one of those retards that forgets to throw up decoy on wgg.

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Ahem. No self-tech bursts? HA.HA.HA.HA.

A) Human engineer has TWO. Tech and Fire. Also, Fire Explosion deals almost twice the damage of a biotic explosion AND burns enemies. Tech burst is incredibly easy to setup, so you just suck.

B) Quarian Engineer has Cryo explosion and, if there is anything with a damaging power (guess what, e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e else) also has the Fire explosion.

C) Salarian Engineer: same as human. With the added benefit that Overload and ED stack, spamspamspam FTW.

D)As I said, any damaging power detonates a tech burst. Oh, yes, this means a Batarian Sentinel who has at least one point in shockwave, can detonate its own tech burst too!

And if you think the Asari Adept is OP, you haven't seen neither the Kroguard, nor a good Drell Adept against reapers, nor a half decent Novaguard, nor... hey, guess what, most classes are balanced, some just have the added need of aiming at the enemy and not "herp-derp-I-has-seeker-missiles". Well, on a side note, on PC at least Warp seems to miss a lot, even being host. It happens to all my friends too, anyone else having that problem?

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Asari Adept is the most effective character in the game? Nah.

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lol diablo 3
mp is fun
op is nab

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Asari adept + disruptor ammo
Shoot+Warp=Tech burst
Shoot+throw= Tech burst then Throw= Biotic explosion
Repeat two time Atlases shield gone then you can destroy armour by regular explosions.
Asari adept and Salarian infiltrator are the most useful characters in game in taking out the big guys while soldiers and other classes are good to cover their backs and cleaning out the common mobs Everyone has their use and you do not have to top the scoreboard to be a credit to team

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sorry AA, Iz be in my roost, stealin yo killz

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21B wrote...

sorry AA, Iz be in my roost, stealin yo killz


I wish people would steal more kills from me. Game would be more interesting and fast.

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It's not ruined for me.

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Here I thought it was cause there's only one game type that's making it boring.

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Drell Adept: Reave. Cluster Nades, 4 biotic explosions. Beat that xD

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Serkevan wrote...

Drell Adept: Reave. Cluster Nades, 4 biotic explosions. Beat that xD


Bull. There is always only 1 biotic explosion. 

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Multiplayer is not ruined but there are some changes that still need to be made. While humans aren't partically special in any class, they do provide an interesting combination of abilites. I do agree that the Human soldier is basically useless. While the Asari Adept and even the Human Adept dominate with Biotic Combos, its a whole different class then the Soldier.

The Soldier class has been dumbed down for multiplayer. It use to be all about adrenaline rush and ammo powers but now the human soldier isn't even close to how it effective it was single player. Adrenaline Rush slowed down time to give the player plenty of time to do multple headshots or increase the damage of whatever weapon there using. For multiplayer it does the later with the addition of reloading whatever ammo you have in the gun your using. Ammo power is now equipment for all players to use. The Human Soldier is also given Frag Grenades and Consussive shot. Frag Grenades are useful, but having to go back and forth to ammo crates to get some is tedious. Consussive Shot is useless. The class overall is too heavily dependent on the player and weapons and equipments used.

While I understand the class overall isn't meant to spam powers like Adepts, what made the Soldier so unique in single player was slowing down time with Adrenaline Rush, and ammo powers. The fact that both are taking away, just leaves the Human soldier a small shadow of what it was in singleplayer. The other human classes have great abilites: Human Adept - Singularity, Warp, Shockwave; Human Engineer - Incinerate, Overload and Combat Drone; Human Sentinel - Throw, Warp, Tech Armor; Human Infiltrator - Sticky grenade, Tactical Cloak, Cryo Blast; Human Vanguard - Biotic Charge, Shockwave, Nova.......All of these human classes have generally normal/cool/almost great abilities. They may not be as special as their alien comrades, but their abilites they way they are really do make the class. The Human Soldier however, doesn't.

The other classes within the Soldier category are special in their own unique way. These Specialist have a job and do it well. Krogan - Melee, Turian - Weapon Stability, Bartarian - CQC. Even though these classes can't do the combat roll, for their lack of stability they are rewarded with toughness. The only thing that makes the Human Soldier unique to these specialist is the Combat roll, and thats not even all that great. All the other human oriented classes have the combat roll as well.

Additionally, for a heavy melee, the Human Soldier has an Omni-Blade, the other Human classes have either Biotic Strike, Disruptor Omni Blade, Dual Omni Blades, Incediary Omni Blade, and Biotic Blast. The Human Soldier seems to be the normal, below average class of all the multiplayer classes.

I've played the Human soldier for sometime on bronze and silver and the class overall is just run and gun, and a grenade or two, or three. I can basically do that with any and all classes. Shouldn't the Human Soldier be unique in its own way just like the other Human classes? Granted those classes aren't special but all in all, there still well rounded classes.

The class itself just seems so underpowered for multiplayer. Sure I can go run and gun and grenade, but I can do that with any class. This class is below average and can be so much better, probably not as effiecient as its Single Player counterpart but still good or at least average. I don't know what Bioware should do (or even if they feel the same way about the Human Soldier as I do) about the class, but they should really give it some more thought to it.

What the Human soldier does, is what any other class can do. The class doesn't bring anything unique to multiplayer.

If I am missing something about this class or how effecitve it can be (standalone) then please enlighten me.

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The classes are balanced to a degree, there will allways be the better classes but all of em can kick ass with the right person behind them.

The only thing i really agree with OP is that may 15th there shall be 1 game to rule them all, HAIL DIABLO.

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KainD wrote...

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Drell Adept: Reave. Cluster Nades, 4 biotic explosions. Beat that xD


Bull. There is always only 1 biotic explosion. 


Bull. Grenades are exception, get your facts straight. Oneshots a ravager.

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guess i am one of the stupid people that enjoys the game.

I play Silver all the time and i haven't even played Gold in ages.

Silver always fills up fast on Random/Random.
So i don't know where you get your figures that EVERYONE PLAYS FBW/GETH/GOLD.

the people that do play that map are not exploiting anything, its just an easy tactic.
i bet you think 4 Adepts doing Biotic Explosions are Exploiting too.

basicly you need to get real and quit acting like everyone should quit the game because you are having a hard time winning a match.

Ballistic Blades are not bugged, you see they are a physical projectile that travel in a strait trajectory. I'm sorry you don't understand this and it isn't everyone else's fault that you don't.

I have said too much here though as i feel like i'm feeding the Troll.

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KainD wrote...

21B wrote...

sorry AA, Iz be in my roost, stealin yo killz


I wish people would steal more kills from me. Game would be more interesting and fast.


I've started doing it to hear people cry about it. I've gone into PUGs where guys have hooked up there mics just to curse me out. People just dont know when they r bein trolled

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Serkevan wrote...

KainD wrote...

Serkevan wrote...

Drell Adept: Reave. Cluster Nades, 4 biotic explosions. Beat that xD


Bull. There is always only 1 biotic explosion. 


Bull. Grenades are exception, get your facts straight. Oneshots a ravager.


No, grenades are not an exception. Explosions are capped by 1 per any combo. Everyone takes damage from reavy and explosion, but the explosion is only one. 

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KainD wrote...



There is no way you can oneshot a ravager if there are less than 4 explosions. At least if the calculations I did back in the day are correct, which may not be. In any case, those things have the biggest damage in the game.