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[GGW KillerTiger]

Startkabel wrote...

Biotics are superior over snipers because a biotic detonation does more damage and also does collateral damage to the surroundings. Biotics can control crowds, snipers cannot.

Snipers are more efficient when it comes to quicly killing a normal enemy, but when you only play with snipers you will have a hard time on Gold. In the end you will be overrun by big opponents because you focus on 1 enemy at the time.

You haven't played gold have you ..... Everyone is a sniper in gold public games .... Come out of under your rock 

[Startkabel]

Renew81 wrote...

Startkabel wrote...

Biotics are superior over snipers because a biotic detonation does more damage and also does collateral damage to the surroundings. Biotics can control crowds, snipers cannot.

Snipers are more efficient when it comes to quicly killing a normal enemy, but when you only play with snipers you will have a hard time on Gold. In the end you will be overrun by big opponents because you focus on 1 enemy at the time.

Biotic can control crowds and snipers cannot , isnt this exactly why we have different classes
me as a sniper have a better chance it clearing the objectives while the biotic keeps
the enemies of me by blowing them all to hell.

how many times does it happen that you ONLY play with 4 snipers, in my experience
this is rare and pkaying with friends they most of the time have multible characters
ready to avoid those situations and to compliment others in the team.

Exactly you need a balanced team but certain characters are useless for a balanced team, therefor characters are unbalanced.

[Startkabel]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Startkabel wrote...

Biotics are superior over snipers because a biotic detonation does more damage and also does collateral damage to the surroundings. Biotics can control crowds, snipers cannot.

Snipers are more efficient when it comes to quicly killing a normal enemy, but when you only play with snipers you will have a hard time on Gold. In the end you will be overrun by big opponents because you focus on 1 enemy at the time.

You haven't played gold have you ..... Everyone is a sniper in gold public games .... Come out of under your rock 

I only play Gold and most people play Adept, look who's talking!

[zhk3r]

Maybe you guys should look up the word "ruined". I agree, there are bugs in the game - but none that are gamebreaking. I also agree that tech bursts should be unlocked and beefed up to compete with BE - but it's not a necessity to keep playing the game. I'm getting Diablo III when it comes out, and it will likely replace ME3MP on my "what do play today list". But at some point I'm going to come back. But until then, I'm having fun with my Batarian and Krogan Soldiers.

[Startkabel]

The fact that bugs are no showstopper doesn't mean that lots of bugs don't ruin the game. A game is for fun not to annoy me.
Yesterday I had a gaming night and ran into these bugs:
-Failing purchases
-Enemy in the floor
-Losing connection to the server in wave 9 (I have a superior connection that hardly ever goes down and UPnP is enabled on the router, internet was not down)
-Gun does no damage, powers do, unable to reload
-Bloody screen does not go away
-People run around with a permanent firing animation on their gun
-Batarian Soldier cannot shoot blades past cover
-Fall true map, respawning on the other side

Sure I am missing a few but this is totally ruining my game experience

[Daidarus]

Wesus wrote...

Op is just à bad player.

Wesus is just a bad troll.

[Rodia Driftwood]

 The game has been out for month and a half and it's already ruined?. Lol.. You silly you. 

[Highlord Heian]

Startkabel wrote...

Serkevan wrote...

Ahem. No self-tech bursts? HA.HA.HA.HA.

A) Human engineer has TWO. Tech and Fire. Also, Fire Explosion deals almost twice the damage of a biotic explosion AND burns enemies. Tech burst is incredibly easy to setup, so you just suck.

Quarian Engineer has Cryo explosion and, if there is anything with a damaging power (guess what, e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e else) also has the Fire explosion.

C) Salarian Engineer: same as human. With the added benefit that Overload and ED stack, spamspamspam FTW.

D)As I said, any damaging power detonates a tech burst. Oh, yes, this means a Batarian Sentinel who has at least one point in shockwave, can detonate its own tech burst too!

And if you think the Asari Adept is OP, you haven't seen neither the Kroguard, nor a good Drell Adept against reapers, nor a half decent Novaguard, nor... hey, guess what, most classes are balanced, some just have the added need of aiming at the enemy and not "herp-derp-I-has-seeker-missiles". Well, on a side note, on PC at least Warp seems to miss a lot, even being host. It happens to all my friends too, anyone else having that problem?

This are just combos in theory which you cannot execute in the game because of reload times. For example if you use overload with the engineer you cannot finish the combo with incinerate because of the cooldown. You rely on teammates to finish the combo.
Also the ammo is nice but does not work most of the time and still you are relying on ammo which is a consumable so still underpowered compared to Biotic Detonations.

These combos aren't theory. These combos are practically and constantly executed by players more skilled and capable than yourself. Saying that you can't self-detonate a Tech Burst indicates that you are an absolutely terrible player.

And on top of the countless failures in logic you start with, there, Biotic Detonations can only be detonated by Biotic abilities. Tech Bursts can be triggered by biotics and tech powers. Yeah, so hard to use!

If these are your complaints, quit, so that the average for player skill can go up. Stop playing, stop complaining, stop whining, and stop being so pathetically ignorant.

[siffers]

zhk3r wrote...

Maybe you guys should look up the word "ruined". I agree, there are bugs in the game - but none that are gamebreaking. I also agree that tech bursts should be unlocked and beefed up to compete with BE - but it's not a necessity to keep playing the game. I'm getting Diablo III when it comes out, and it will likely replace ME3MP on my "what do play today list". But at some point I'm going to come back. But until then, I'm having fun with my Batarian and Krogan Soldiers.

Actually some of the bugs are showstoppers i've had games where my powers randomly stop working at all and for the rest of the game i can only use my gun.

As a vanguard i've had a lot of times where I suddenly fall through the map this is without even being downed during a charge. Not to mention how biotic charging and getting downed makes you completely bugged out.

Meelee sometimes stops functiong properly leaving you only able to do the pistol whip attack and animation.

I've had ammo bug out so that i can't get more ammo to reload my guns. 

Many of these problems are show stoppers that they happen relatively infrequently (outside of the vanguard issue) doesn't change that fact.

Modifié par siffers, 19 avril 2012 - 12:53 .

[Kozaro]

Why do you spell it as exploi-d-ing? Isn't it exploiting? This forum DOES have spell-check built in...

[Highlord Heian]

Startkabel wrote...

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Startkabel wrote...

Biotics are superior over snipers because a biotic detonation does more damage and also does collateral damage to the surroundings. Biotics can control crowds, snipers cannot.

Snipers are more efficient when it comes to quicly killing a normal enemy, but when you only play with snipers you will have a hard time on Gold. In the end you will be overrun by big opponents because you focus on 1 enemy at the time.

You haven't played gold have you ..... Everyone is a sniper in gold public games .... Come out of under your rock 

I only play Gold and most people play Adept, look who's talking!

If you only play gold, considering how painfully ignorant you are about the most basic combos in this game, I feel bad for all the people who have to carry a waste of space like you who has less basic knowledge than somebody in bronze.

You saying that "most people" play adept is really saying that "most people" can tell what a pathetic liar you are.

[mywaywardson20232018]

EEETS RUINEEEEEEEND!!!!

IT IS THE END!!!

Gotta say there are a lot of drama queens in the ME community.

Modifié par mywaywardson20232018, 19 avril 2012 - 01:04 .

[darkblade]

No gamebreaking bugs? really who believes that?

I cant even play my human vanguard unless i somehow become jesus because it i die even once i glitch out.

the dramatic entrance from outside the maps was fun until it started because a problem, seems like certain maps are prone to having nigh invincible enemies stuck in the air when they are coming in. and to make it worse sometimes they are invisible.

tired of losing connection during the load screen after the match, actually i dont understand the point of having EA servers if they are using host P2P other then as a medium for patching. utterly flawed system, if the host makes i back to the lobby before you and quits you get nothing.

an entire aspect of the krogan vanguard power tree doesnt work.

submission net doesnt always show up, ive played entire matches where people couldnt see thier powers.

Y button powers mostly charge and biotic bubble refuse to function properly all the time.

[AsheraII]

Startkabel wrote...

• Because everybody is farming Geth on FB:White nowadays
  Probably, some money grubbing sales people @ BW came with the stupid idea to have some sort of gambling store in MP. Now people only care about earning credits and exploid the glitch in FB: White in order to get as many credits as quickly as possible.
  When you search for games with any enemy or map you have a very big chance to end up with Geth on FB: White. No you should not search for specific maps or enemies, BW should fix the map.
  
  
• MP is suffering from far too many gameplay ruining bugs.
  Her is the long list with confirmed bugs http://social.biowar.../index/11043318
  Enemies fall true the map making it impossible to finish the game, enemies become invinsible. The Batarian blades do not work behind cover, store purchases fail, connections to the EA servers are suddenly lost ending your game, weapons are bugged or suddenly stop doing damage at all. The list of bugs is endless
  
  
• Characters are not balanced
  The Asari Adept that has Stasis, Warp and Throw can make several combinations to create Biotic Detonations and is probably still the most effective character in the game. The Salarian Infiltrator has Cloak and drain and makes the fastest kills. The soldier for example is a useless character compared to these characters and also there is no character that can make use of tech burst as effectively as other characters can make use of the Biotic Detonations because there is not a single character that can make Tech Burst on his own. You can say that Biotics are overpowered at least
  
  
• Diablo3 is coming out 15 May and Mass Effect will be forgotten

Oh the IRONY of commenting on those bugs and then claiming you're looking forward to Diablo 3..

Grinding specific parts of the content
Pindleskin, that's all I have to say really.

Gambling store
In case you never played a Diablo game before, then I'd like to enlighten you with the simple fact that BOTH Diablo I and Diablo II featured gambling stores. Not only that, both also featured randomized drops. Only Diablo 1 had a couple of guaranteed drops (Butcher's Cleaver for example), but most were still completely randomized.

Gamebreaking bugs
Both Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 featured something even worse than the "game breaking bugs" of ME3 MP, which you rarely encounter anyway unless you actively try to reproduce them ON PURPOSE. Hacks! Hacking Diablo 1 was even easier than hacking Diablo 2, allowing you even to play on battlenet with completely self designed items and unlimited gold. In Diablo 2, some of these were "solved", (but actually still possible, just harder to accomplish). The cause of this? Too many things were resolved clientside instead of server side. The best part is, they did the exact same thing in WoW, handling quite a lot of things client side instead of serverside, making it possible for players to employ hacks. I really don't expect things to be different any for Diablo 3. Expect plenty of hacks. Get killed over and over by cheating PK's, even with your PvP flag turned off.

Character Ballance
Diablo 2 had 3 good classes: Sorc and Hunter for PvE, Barb for PvP. The rest was mediocre at best, some simply had BAD written all over. And my WoW experience tells me that Activision is still clueless and still doesn't care about class ballance.

Money Shop
Diablo 3 will have it's own moneyshop, just like ME3 MP has one. It gets even better: the cash shop supports third party sellers. For REAL cash. They basically LEGALIZED goldselling.

I know I'm not the only Diablo player who isn't even going to bother with Diablo 3. Not even if they paid me to play!

Diablo 1: Awesome game, great atmosphere, good gameplay, plenty of bugs and hacks
Diablo 2: Awesome game again, more features than Diablo 1 but with a lesser atmosphere, still plenty of bugs and hacks.
Diablo 3: The Duke Nukem Forever of the Diablo series, the sequel that shouldn't have been created.

[Legato 0021]

 I love how all the reasons are not good reasons for the MP being ruined.

Out of all those reasons only one of them can really be said that it ruins the game in the slightest and thats glitches and bugs.

In co-op games character classes are NOT supposed to be balanced. It is up to the player to figure out how to best use the character. I have played with people who always get close to beating me, which few people are capable of beating me since I've only had a few people ever score higher than me. I've played with same people and swapped and used every class and every character with them and others and I have always..... always made top score.

With that being stated it shows that all the classes are really strong in their own way.
You seem to be a CoD player since you are thinking so small in this matter. It's cool man, I love mindlessly killing stuff every now and then also. 

As for Diablo 3, played the private beta, I hope you enjoy everything they have took out the game. :innocent: Just wait till you play it. xD

Modifié par Legato 0021, 19 avril 2012 - 01:10 .

[Wesus]

Im à bad troll by saying the truth,

Look @ what the op is saying : most people play adept in gold

Thats the biggest lie there is. The most played class is Infiltrator and if you play other then fbwgg then u have 1 engineer in most cases (not all games)

[LeandroBraz]

- Gold farming is boring and useless, since doing a real gold is not that hard and you can do credits and have fun at the same time, but you don't find another kind of lobbies for incompetence. Tip: Create a lobby, I always do it, I always can fill the lobby and play unknown map and enemy. Even better, make friends.


- I hope they are working hard to fix the bugs, but it's not that bad. I can count in my fingers how many matches was ruined by bugs, some of them avoidable, like the human vanguard bug.


- Wrong. YOU don't know how to take the best of every character. I can play a human soldier and help the team, efficiently as any infiltrator or adept. I played with every char (less DLCs char I didn't unlocked yet) and they only sucked on purpose, when I was experimenting with weapons and power rankings.


- I play PC, love it, but is the platform with fewer players for sure. Diablo 3 should be amazing, but doesn't mean others MPs will start to die because of it.

[D4rk50ul808]

Not true at all. If you camp and play a gold match in 28-35 minutes maybe that is the case but not if you work as a team and go to them. Any class is viable and effective if played with skill, farming is not skillful its how bronze and silver players survive gold.The reason the game is broken is lack of a platinum difficulty, fbw farming, and buying 50+ spectre packs worth of character cards to try to rank up an N7 weapon cause everything else is maxed. Also not having equipment packs available ALL the time.





Edit: We never play anything but gold and rarely have an adept or infiltrator except for justicar from time to time. Most of the RANDOMS we pick up don't use those classes its pretty balanced.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 19 avril 2012 - 01:37 .

[zhk3r]

siffers wrote...

Actually some of the bugs are showstoppers i've had games where my powers randomly stop working at all and for the rest of the game i can only use my gun.

As a vanguard i've had a lot of times where I suddenly fall through the map this is without even being downed during a charge. Not to mention how biotic charging and getting downed makes you completely bugged out.

Meelee sometimes stops functiong properly leaving you only able to do the pistol whip attack and animation.

I've had ammo bug out so that i can't get more ammo to reload my guns. 

Many of these problems are show stoppers that they happen relatively infrequently (outside of the vanguard issue) doesn't change that fact.

> I've never encountered such a bug. Biotic Charge not working is one thing, but other Powers? No.
> Don't play Vanguard off-host. When you press a hotkey that needs to be communicated with the host, delaying the actual usage of the power. With something like Biotic Charge, that's just asking to be glitched out. This is also a statement that's stupid because 98 % of the community knowns not to play host-dependent classes off-host.
> Go into cover if your melee is broken. it happens when you fail at grabbing someone.
> Die, then be revived. It fixes the issue nine out of ten times.

If you're having such a bad time playing the game because these bugs happen often, then quit playing it. No one is forcing you to play the game. Instead of arguing and whining about what's not working in the game, simply go play another game. All games have bugs. ME3 has been out for what a little over a month? Modern Warfare 2 was never patched and people still play it to this day. Chill out. The developers are aware of the issues and are making patches. If you want to blame someone for bugs - Call Microsoft and Sony. B*tch at them for their patching and maintenance routines.

[Startkabel]

AsheraII wrote...

Startkabel wrote...

• Because everybody is farming Geth on FB:White nowadays
  Probably, some money grubbing sales people @ BW came with the stupid idea to have some sort of gambling store in MP. Now people only care about earning credits and exploid the glitch in FB: White in order to get as many credits as quickly as possible.
  When you search for games with any enemy or map you have a very big chance to end up with Geth on FB: White. No you should not search for specific maps or enemies, BW should fix the map.
  
  
  
• MP is suffering from far too many gameplay ruining bugs.
  Her is the long list with confirmed bugs http://social.biowar.../index/11043318
  Enemies fall true the map making it impossible to finish the game, enemies become invinsible. The Batarian blades do not work behind cover, store purchases fail, connections to the EA servers are suddenly lost ending your game, weapons are bugged or suddenly stop doing damage at all. The list of bugs is endless
  
  
  
• Characters are not balanced
  The Asari Adept that has Stasis, Warp and Throw can make several combinations to create Biotic Detonations and is probably still the most effective character in the game. The Salarian Infiltrator has Cloak and drain and makes the fastest kills. The soldier for example is a useless character compared to these characters and also there is no character that can make use of tech burst as effectively as other characters can make use of the Biotic Detonations because there is not a single character that can make Tech Burst on his own. You can say that Biotics are overpowered at least
  
  
  
• Diablo3 is coming out 15 May and Mass Effect will be forgotten

Oh the IRONY of commenting on those bugs and then claiming you're looking forward to Diablo 3..

Grinding specific parts of the content
Pindleskin, that's all I have to say really.

Gambling store
In case you never played a Diablo game before, then I'd like to enlighten you with the simple fact that BOTH Diablo I and Diablo II featured gambling stores. Not only that, both also featured randomized drops. Only Diablo 1 had a couple of guaranteed drops (Butcher's Cleaver for example), but most were still completely randomized.

Gamebreaking bugs
Both Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 featured something even worse than the "game breaking bugs" of ME3 MP, which you rarely encounter anyway unless you actively try to reproduce them ON PURPOSE. Hacks! Hacking Diablo 1 was even easier than hacking Diablo 2, allowing you even to play on battlenet with completely self designed items and unlimited gold. In Diablo 2, some of these were "solved", (but actually still possible, just harder to accomplish). The cause of this? Too many things were resolved clientside instead of server side. The best part is, they did the exact same thing in WoW, handling quite a lot of things client side instead of serverside, making it possible for players to employ hacks. I really don't expect things to be different any for Diablo 3. Expect plenty of hacks. Get killed over and over by cheating PK's, even with your PvP flag turned off.

Character Ballance
Diablo 2 had 3 good classes: Sorc and Hunter for PvE, Barb for PvP. The rest was mediocre at best, some simply had BAD written all over. And my WoW experience tells me that Activision is still clueless and still doesn't care about class ballance.

Money Shop
Diablo 3 will have it's own moneyshop, just like ME3 MP has one. It gets even better: the cash shop supports third party sellers. For REAL cash. They basically LEGALIZED goldselling.

I know I'm not the only Diablo player who isn't even going to bother with Diablo 3. Not even if they paid me to play!

Diablo 1: Awesome game, great atmosphere, good gameplay, plenty of bugs and hacks
Diablo 2: Awesome game again, more features than Diablo 1 but with a lesser atmosphere, still plenty of bugs and hacks.
Diablo 3: The Duke Nukem Forever of the Diablo series, the sequel that shouldn't have been created.

Read before replying please:
[*]Grinding in Diablo 3 (third time I say it) can by done by running several different runs depending on your stats and do not involve exploits. In ME3 MP people are sitting in 1 specific position in a specific spot against a specific enemy exploting a bug. Something totally different.
[*]Gambling store: In ME3, players are doomed to gamble, in Diablo there are gambling stores but you can just buy stuff in other stores. Something totally different
[*]Bug: The bugs in ME3 are not rare, I experience some of them every time I play, I do not have to reproduce, just play to experience bugs. Also Diablo is an old game so raising hack issues does not make sense when comparing with ME3. Diablo2 does not suffer many bugs.
[*]Character balance in Diablo2 rocks, funny thing is that I played with a Paladin that owned other players. Simply because I collected good items and had a good build. Characters are balanced in a totally different way in Diablo
[*]I did not say anything about buying stuff for real money

[Gillityr The Original]

Pack it up folks, the OP said it has all been ruined. Time to go home.

*facepalm*

[Startkabel]

Legato 0021 wrote...

 I love how all the reasons are not good reasons for the MP being ruined.

Out of all those reasons only one of them can really be said that it ruins the game in the slightest and thats glitches and bugs.

In co-op games character classes are NOT supposed to be balanced. It is up to the player to figure out how to best use the character. I have played with people who always get close to beating me, which few people are capable of beating me since I've only had a few people ever score higher than me. I've played with same people and swapped and used every class and every character with them and others and I have always..... always made top score.

With that being stated it shows that all the classes are really strong in their own way.
You seem to be a CoD player since you are thinking so small in this matter. It's cool man, I love mindlessly killing stuff every now and then also. 

As for Diablo 3, played the private beta, I hope you enjoy everything they have took out the game. :innocent: Just wait till you play it. xD

Get outta here, the soldier is absolutely useless and just a VERY LITTLE helper for the rest of the team

[Wesus]

Since when is rhe dumb AI of THE geth considered as bug, fbw giant Cerberus is the Same easy grind as well is fbw dagger Cerberus/geth

[LeandroBraz]

siffers wrote...

zhk3r wrote...

Maybe you guys should look up the word "ruined". I agree, there are bugs in the game - but none that are gamebreaking. I also agree that tech bursts should be unlocked and beefed up to compete with BE - but it's not a necessity to keep playing the game. I'm getting Diablo III when it comes out, and it will likely replace ME3MP on my "what do play today list". But at some point I'm going to come back. But until then, I'm having fun with my Batarian and Krogan Soldiers.

Actually some of the bugs are showstoppers i've had games where my powers randomly stop working at all and for the rest of the game i can only use my gun.

As a vanguard i've had a lot of times where I suddenly fall through the map this is without even being downed during a charge. Not to mention how biotic charging and getting downed makes you completely bugged out.

Meelee sometimes stops functiong properly leaving you only able to do the pistol whip attack and animation.

I've had ammo bug out so that i can't get more ammo to reload my guns. 

Many of these problems are show stoppers that they happen relatively infrequently (outside of the vanguard issue) doesn't change that fact.

 It's simple to avoid the charge bug: human vanguard MUST be host. You keep falling out of the scenario because you want. The bug is lame and they should fix that as fast as they can, since it's almost ruining a entire class, but you can avoid this easily. 

[Wesus]

Turian soldier with Revenant can top scoreboards in gold OP so what your saying is pretty damn stupid