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[LeandroBraz]

Startkabel wrote...

Legato 0021 wrote...

 I love how all the reasons are not good reasons for the MP being ruined.

Out of all those reasons only one of them can really be said that it ruins the game in the slightest and thats glitches and bugs.

In co-op games character classes are NOT supposed to be balanced. It is up to the player to figure out how to best use the character. I have played with people who always get close to beating me, which few people are capable of beating me since I've only had a few people ever score higher than me. I've played with same people and swapped and used every class and every character with them and others and I have always..... always made top score.

With that being stated it shows that all the classes are really strong in their own way.
You seem to be a CoD player since you are thinking so small in this matter. It's cool man, I love mindlessly killing stuff every now and then also. 

As for Diablo 3, played the private beta, I hope you enjoy everything they have took out the game. :innocent: Just wait till you play it. xD

Get outta here, the soldier is absolutely useless and just a VERY LITTLE helper for the rest of the team

 You clearly don't know how to play a Soldier..

[Severyx]

This thread should be entitled "WARNING: SUBJECTIVE AND UNTESTED STATEMENTS AHEAD"

[siffers]

zhk3r wrote...

siffers wrote...

Actually some of the bugs are showstoppers i've had games where my powers randomly stop working at all and for the rest of the game i can only use my gun.

As a vanguard i've had a lot of times where I suddenly fall through the map this is without even being downed during a charge. Not to mention how biotic charging and getting downed makes you completely bugged out.

Meelee sometimes stops functiong properly leaving you only able to do the pistol whip attack and animation.

I've had ammo bug out so that i can't get more ammo to reload my guns. 

Many of these problems are show stoppers that they happen relatively infrequently (outside of the vanguard issue) doesn't change that fact.

> I've never encountered such a bug. Biotic Charge not working is one thing, but other Powers? No.
> Don't play Vanguard off-host. When you press a hotkey that needs to be communicated with the host, delaying the actual usage of the power. With something like Biotic Charge, that's just asking to be glitched out. This is also a statement that's stupid because 98 % of the community knowns not to play host-dependent classes off-host.
> Go into cover if your melee is broken. it happens when you fail at grabbing someone.
> Die, then be revived. It fixes the issue nine out of ten times.

If you're having such a bad time playing the game because these bugs happen often, then quit playing it. No one is forcing you to play the game. Instead of arguing and whining about what's not working in the game, simply go play another game. All games have bugs. ME3 has been out for what a little over a month? Modern Warfare 2 was never patched and people still play it to this day. Chill out. The developers are aware of the issues and are making patches. If you want to blame someone for bugs - Call Microsoft and Sony. B*tch at them for their patching and maintenance routines.

Why would i complain to microsoft or sony when i'm a PC user. Your post is dumb and every one is dumber for having to read it.

Developers need to be made aware of these bugs, They need to be made aware that these aren't small issues they are things that actively make people quit. Holy **** you inbreds are morons. 

You actually want people to stop playing the game? Are you retarded? Mass effect multiplay already has a declining playerbase telling people to quit or leave because of these bugs is stupid, these bugs existeded in the DEMO they knew about them for more than a month. Inconclusion your post is 

[Legato 0021]

Startkabel wrote...

[*]
Read before replying please:
[*]Grinding in Diablo 3 (third time I say it) can by done by running several different runs depending on your stats and do not involve exploits. In ME3 MP people are sitting in 1 specific position in a specific spot against a specific enemy exploting a bug. Something totally different.
[*]Gambling store: In ME3, players are doomed to gamble, in Diablo there are gambling stores but you can just buy stuff in other stores. Something totally different
[*]Bug: The bugs in ME3 are not rare, I experience some of them every time I play, I do not have to reproduce, just play to experience bugs. Also Diablo is an old game so raising hack issues does not make sense when comparing with ME3. Diablo2 does not suffer many bugs.
[*]Character balance in Diablo2 rocks, funny thing is that I played with a Paladin that owned other players. Simply because I collected good items and had a good build. Characters are balanced in a totally different way in Diablo
[*]I did not say anything about buying stuff for real money

Well, character balance in Diablo 2 was never balanced. A Paladin that owns players? If I was not mistaken Pally was deemed the most overpowered class when it came to PvP. Don't believe me check the PvP forum, so I laughed so hard at this.

Anyway, since you are looking forward to D3 so much.
Here let me tell you what they did. (All of this was in the beta)
There no longer exist a choice when it comes to attribute points. They automaticly put in your chatacter. Higher levels will always have more health and other stuff than you now.

Crafting random items has random effect.... NO BETTER THAN MASS EFFECT 3 STORE! You'll have to waste top end stuff over and over to get the best stats for that one weapon alone.

There no longer exist choice in skills. LOL!!!!! Its true. As you level up now all skills are unlocked and you do not have the choice of using any given skill at any given time, you can only have 5 spells on you at any time. I think its 5 atleast... And 2 passive skills selected at any given time also.

PvP, from the beta if changes are not made it will 80% of the time be the higher level wins now due to Character A vs another character A but levels are different they will always have same skills and higher attribute points. If that is not a game ruiner I do not know what is.

Mana potions were completely removed from the game. New system added and all characters have their own form of mana. 

Anyway, before I go into further detail those are the main things.
So before you go talking about how Diablo 3 is going to be so much better, why don't you just wait for it to come out and see which title you are going to go raging at more.

Modifié par Legato 0021, 19 avril 2012 - 01:44 .

[Legato 0021]

LeandroBraz wrote...

Startkabel wrote...

Legato 0021 wrote...

 I love how all the reasons are not good reasons for the MP being ruined.

Out of all those reasons only one of them can really be said that it ruins the game in the slightest and thats glitches and bugs.

In co-op games character classes are NOT supposed to be balanced. It is up to the player to figure out how to best use the character. I have played with people who always get close to beating me, which few people are capable of beating me since I've only had a few people ever score higher than me. I've played with same people and swapped and used every class and every character with them and others and I have always..... always made top score.

With that being stated it shows that all the classes are really strong in their own way.
You seem to be a CoD player since you are thinking so small in this matter. It's cool man, I love mindlessly killing stuff every now and then also. 

As for Diablo 3, played the private beta, I hope you enjoy everything they have took out the game. :innocent: Just wait till you play it. xD

Get outta here, the soldier is absolutely useless and just a VERY LITTLE helper for the rest of the team

 You clearly don't know how to play a Soldier..

Hahaha!!! I just saw this. 
Yeah, you are DEFINTLY playing soldier wrong.
I use to rock the soldier the MOST. I would rape almost everything with him.... xD

[LeandroBraz]

Startkabel wrote...

Serkevan wrote...

Ahem. No self-tech bursts? HA.HA.HA.HA.

A) Human engineer has TWO. Tech and Fire. Also, Fire Explosion deals almost twice the damage of a biotic explosion AND burns enemies. Tech burst is incredibly easy to setup, so you just suck.

Quarian Engineer has Cryo explosion and, if there is anything with a damaging power (guess what, e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e else) also has the Fire explosion.

C) Salarian Engineer: same as human. With the added benefit that Overload and ED stack, spamspamspam FTW.

D)As I said, any damaging power detonates a tech burst. Oh, yes, this means a Batarian Sentinel who has at least one point in shockwave, can detonate its own tech burst too!

And if you think the Asari Adept is OP, you haven't seen neither the Kroguard, nor a good Drell Adept against reapers, nor a half decent Novaguard, nor... hey, guess what, most classes are balanced, some just have the added need of aiming at the enemy and not "herp-derp-I-has-seeker-missiles". Well, on a side note, on PC at least Warp seems to miss a lot, even being host. It happens to all my friends too, anyone else having that problem?

This are just combos in theory which you cannot execute in the game because of reload times. For example if you use overload with the engineer you cannot finish the combo with incinerate because of the cooldown. You rely on teammates to finish the combo.
Also the ammo is nice but does not work most of the time and still you are relying on ammo which is a consumable so still underpowered compared to Biotic Detonations.

 I can use a overload and finish it with my own incinerate. It's easier to do incinerate/overload, since you need to reduce the enemy health so he can die with the second power, causing the explosion, but I do both everytime. I can even incinerate a enemy that my drone overloaded, I did a lot of explosions in this way too.

 It's harder because you need to kill the enemy in order to do the explosion, but the cooldown isn't a problem if you use the right weapons..

I been writing this a lot here, but I will do again: If you s*ck playing a class it doesn't mean everyone else s*ck as well.

Modifié par LeandroBraz, 19 avril 2012 - 01:47 .

[zhk3r]

siffers wrote...
Why would i complain to microsoft or sony when i'm a PC user. Your post is dumb and every one is dumber for having to read it.

Developers need to be made aware of these bugs, They need to be made aware that these aren't small issues they are things that actively make people quit. Holy **** you inbreds are morons. 

You actually want people to stop playing the game? Are you retarded? Mass effect multiplay already has a declining playerbase telling people to quit or leave because of these bugs is stupid, these bugs existeded in the DEMO they knew about them for more than a month. Inconclusion your post is 

> All platforms are to be treated equally. This is a multi-platform game. The developers do not want to show one console favoritism over another. Just because it's *easer* to push a hotfix on PC doesn't men they're going to do so. That would mean PC would have patches/fixes way before consoles, splitting the community and resulting in even more QQ posts like yours.

> Read the damn "OFFICIAL BUGS AND GLITCHES" thread. They are very aware of the issues with this game. You have the audacity to call the ones of us who're not b*tching like a bunch of 12 year olds "inbred morons" ?! You're an idiot. You shouldn't have the privilege of posting on these forums. 

> If something is annoying you beyond belief - Why keep at it?.. The game was already delayed. It's business, and even worse, it's EA business. I'm pretty sure that if BioWare could, they'd delay the game in order to polish off the bugs. But that's not always an option. Every game in existance ships with bugs and glitches. You just happen to play this one.

> You're a tool. You're an obnoxious little ****** and I hope bad things happen to you.

[PluralAces]

thats a load of crap...i was doing gold with unknown enemy and location last night and it was tons of fun...until one of my friends got lagged out on extraction, needless to say he was angry he didnt get the 74K credits we got

but anyway, find some friends to play with, if you go into a public gold match, you are most likely going to be every match trying to do FB white / geth

point is: get some friends

[Highlord Heian]

LeandroBraz wrote...

 You clearly don't know how to play a Soldier..

He clearly doesn't know how to play a lot of classes, not just soldier. Did you know Engineers can't self-tech burst? Wow right?

[Startkabel]

People that say that I do not know how to play as Soldier are just ignorant. Every experienced player knows that Soldier is useless on Gold.
Hell I even survive Gold with the Soldier but do not kill because of the crap powers he has.

The point is not even that I do not know how to play a class, the point is the classes are unbalanced and Biotic Detonations are overpowered.

Modifié par Startkabel, 19 avril 2012 - 02:08 .

[BDelacroix]

Mp was never that great but it does pass the time.

[zhk3r]

Startkabel wrote...

People that say that I do not know how to play as Soldier are just ignorant. Every experienced player knows that Soldier is useless on Gold.
Hell I even survive Gold with the Soldier but do not kill because of the crap powers he has.

I'm a somewhat experienced player and I used to bash the soldier, especially the human. After Adrenaline Rush got buffed the Human Soldier is a very viable class on Gold. He's got increased survivability and increased weapon damage. We managed to pull off playing four Human Soldiers with Incisors' and emerge victoriously. I don't play PUGs anymore, but even when I play Soldier with friends I tend to top the scoreboard. Soldier is a very good class, he's just very weapon dependent. 

[Wesus]

Turian soldier + Revenant tops scoreboards

So OP your à failboat, i solo'd gold as à soldier and my mates and me do enough soldier only runs in gold

[Startkabel]

Increased weapons damage YAY, use an Infiltrator if you like weapon damage.

Modifié par Startkabel, 19 avril 2012 - 02:12 .

[Wesus]

Lol OP your so clueless

[Startkabel]

O people I changed my post and deleted the part about characters not being able to produce tech burst on his own.
Hope you are happy but read again:
Characters are not balanced
The Asari Adept that has Stasis, Warp and Throw can make several combinations to create Biotic Detonations and is probably still the most effective character in the game. The Salarian Infiltrator has Cloak and drain and makes the fastest kills. The soldier for example is a useless character compared to these characters and also there is no character that can make use of tech burst as effectively as other characters can make use of the Biotic Detonation. You can say that Biotics are overpowered at least

[Kronner]

ME3 MP is really, really boring by now (for me) due to very limited number of maps and enemies. And only one game mode.

It's just no fun anymore. Not to mention I've unlocked all weapons to level X (except for the "N7" ultra rares, but I only like Black Widow from that group and at level II it destroys everything anyway). So no point in playing anymore.

Modifié par Kronner, 19 avril 2012 - 02:13 .

[Startkabel]

+1

[Wesus]

Its co-op, not needed to have balance in THE MP , if it was CoD it would've made sense

[ChrisRudson]

Uhm dude.... What the hell we're you saying? Soldier are useless? You just don't know how to use it that's what. I could beat a Krogan Battlemaster on Silver using a HUMAN SOLDIER! Learn your class, if you don't know how to make the class dance then find another that suits you.

[kevchy]

FBW Geth farming isn't in any way exploiting a "glitch", by the way. I'd like you to tell us why do you think it is a glitch.

[sheltomlee]

"Diablo3 is coming out 15 May and Mass Effect will be forgotten"

Yes, thank God.

[kramerfan86]

I agree its harder to tech burst, but you figure engineers are moreso supposed to be support characters than they are high DPS destroyers like biotics are.

[Wesus]

Sheltomlee may15th we're finally rid of you here

[Startkabel]

Farming Geth on FB: White is really an exploit because the control panel in the room down below the map is bugged and enemies usually do not walk around, they stick to the corner.
You can test this by playing against reapers, the banchees will stick on top of the wall when trying to teleport behind it.