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Why did Duncan leave his weapons?


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The Angry One

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Alex Savchovsky wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

MAJORLY MINOR NITPICK: the screen turns WHITE before the Alpha reaches him :D Which is even more fuel for the Duncan Lives conspiracy theory, surely it would have gone BLACK if he were dead lol...


No need for that even... I mean, his name is Duncan! How many times was Duncan Idaho supposed to be dead?


Didn't those new Dune books basically turn Duncan Idaho into the ubergod of the universe?
If they ever did the same with Duncan I'd have to slap someone.

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The Angry One wrote...

Alex Savchovsky wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

MAJORLY MINOR NITPICK: the screen turns WHITE before the Alpha reaches him :D Which is even more fuel for the Duncan Lives conspiracy theory, surely it would have gone BLACK if he were dead lol...


No need for that even... I mean, his name is Duncan! How many times was Duncan Idaho supposed to be dead?


Didn't those new Dune books basically turn Duncan Idaho into the ubergod of the universe?
If they ever did the same with Duncan I'd have to slap someone.


Which he would block with his beard.

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Bhatair wrote...

Somewhere out there a very unlucky soldier is fighting off darkspawn with his dinner fork.

I love reading that.

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They say behind Duncan's beard is Sandal, ready to lay down the enchantment to any darkspawn who tries to hurt Duncan.





... Enchantment!

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CoM Solaufein

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Duncan is the Chuck Norris of DA:O.





LOL

#31
Sarevok Anchev

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lol!

This Topic is epic! ^^



Okay then lets take the bets!



Who is for Duncan is alive? *Count me here*



Who is for Duncan is dead?



Who is for Duncan became a Broodmother/Broodpimp?



Who is for Duncan is alive but beardless?



Who is for Duncan is at the side of the Maker, because he had the power to teleport him

, but not the power to blast some Darkspawn?

#32
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Duncan left it weapons behind because he probably no longer had the strength to pull them out. He used his last once of strength on killing the ogre. He no longer had the strength to pull them out let alone wield them.

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Duncan is Flemeth. Hahaha.

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Sarevok Anchev

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CoM Solaufein wrote...

Duncan is the Chuck Norris of DA:O.


LOL


And the Maker spoketh: "Let there be light...."

... and Duncan spoke: "Say please!"

B)

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I feel safe assuming that Duncan is dead. I guess they could save him for the DLC... but something tells me if he were alive, we'd have seen it somewhere in the game. I expect final confirmation of this in the Return to Ostagar where you can ransack his corspe.



I really hope his body does turn up in the new DLC. I'm working on a mod that allows Dog to spread his... "mabari dominance" liquids on all kinds of things, party members, NPCs, etc... it'd be great to have him take a leak on Calian AND Duncan.

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Although isn't he the narrator at the beginning of the game?



But yes, I think he's dead.

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Dodco wrote...

Although isn't he the narrator at the beginning of the game?

But yes, I think he's dead.


He is the narrator, yes. Let me just also add that he narrates the ending as well.
Think about that.
^_^

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Yeah, I'll add my .2 cents to the, 'Duncan is probably dead.' Vote. That Ogre's casual backhand looked like it probably smashed his ribs and ruptured a few internal organs to boot. Killing it probably sent shard of of rib bone thru the remains of said organs, hence why he was holding his stomach/ribs like that as he hovered over Cailan's body. Not so much completely spent as desperately gasping for breathe with lungs rapidly filling with his own blood, to be able to lift his weapon at that point.

And everyone knows that death is no barrier to being a kickarse endscene narrator. Just means you get that big picture overview everyone else misses!

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I wish Duncan was alive, but honestly... it won't matter much. According to Alistair he was having nightmares again, thus he was already late to go on his Calling. If he survived the Blight, he'd just die afterwords, to darkspawn anyway. It's a shame, really, I adored his character in the book and I like how different he can be in all the Origins. His resigned sigh after Alistair's 'wear a dress and dance' line won me over regardless, but... yeah, Duncan's dead, or worse, he's not and he's going to end up some darkspawn general of doomy gloom that Alistair has to kill or something.

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when you know you are about to die you just don't give a damn about your sword

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Cammy2709 wrote...

I wonder why Duncan would leave his weapons behind at all. Sure the King has just been brutally slaughtered, but no Grey Warden would leave their weapons behind and simply give up. After all, aren't all Wardens expected to die killing darkspawn? Be it in the deep roads or on a battlefield I can't see Duncan simply giving up...


I kinda figure that was the purpose of the scene: it was intended to drive home the point that this is not a light-hearted or optomistic fantasy. Supported both by Cailin (one of the game's most optomistic and borderline fanboyish characters, overflowing with staunch faith in heroic fantasy tropes) being killed, and by the fact that Duncan (one of the most awesomely epic characters in the game), in the face of the overwhelming failure of the battle, fell into utter and complete despair, and surrendered to death.

The scene is trying to tell you "sometimes, you're just screwed, and even the grey wardens are ultimately frail and mortal."

The fact that the rest of the game seems to be trying to tell you "oh, wait, nevermind. Sometimes, other people are just screwed, you're always awesome..." kinda damages this intention, but still.

Modifié par Doc Faust, 07 décembre 2009 - 06:54 .


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this thread is by far the funniest I have ever read.

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II Relics II wrote...

They say behind Duncan's beard is Sandal, ready to lay down the enchantment to any darkspawn who tries to hurt Duncan.


... Enchantment!



omg this made me laugh so hard I cried!

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i'd like to think that not only is Duncan still alive, but after he survived the battle, he took the fight to the darkspawn and fought to his last breath in the deep roads. Which was his last resort instead of finding and messily killing Loghain.



btw, does anyone know how Sandal gets to the top of the tower right before the archdemon fight. He's just standing in front of the door. "Enchantment?...ENCHANTMENT!!!"

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What about if in in the next DLC we don't find any tangible remains of Duncan, then in the following DLC - theoretically set in the Deep Roads - we find Duncan's remains there. Meaning he somehow survived and got to the Deep Roads to end his life. :o

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Comic. Book. Death. Show me the body!



*after Return to Ostagar* Oh God Duncan what did they do to your corpse!?

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Sarevok Anchev wrote...

CoM Solaufein wrote...

Duncan is the Chuck Norris of DA:O.


LOL


And the Maker spoketh: "Let there be light...."

... and Duncan spoke: "Say please!"

B)



We have nothing to fear but death itself. Death has nothing to fear but Duncan.

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Duncan is a rogue type class. He would probably do feing death or stealth. All we see is the screen go white we dont actualy see him die so I think there is a chance of seeing him live. Duncan would never give up as he also knows that Alistair and the new recruite made it and set the beacon alight.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

CoM Solaufein wrote...

Duncan is the Chuck Norris of DA:O.


LOL


And the Maker spoketh: "Let there be light...."

... and Duncan spoke: "Say please!"

B)



We have nothing to fear but death itself. Death has nothing to fear but Duncan.


Under Duncan's beard there is no chin!
There is only a Fist of Fury![smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

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Sarevok Anchev

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Well in RtO we will see, if Duncan survived or not!



I just took a mapsccreening of the "oh damn, we sucked"-scene.

And i know for every inch in which direction i have to go from Cailan's body to find Duncan.