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[InstaShark]

SuperHamzah wrote...

I will resolve all issues using my logic:

1 - Glitch exploits should not be punished

I stopped reading after that.

[Aarek]

SuperHamzah wrote...

1 - Glitch exploits should not be punished whilst glitches that make you LOSE credits are not compensated. You cannot have justice for one and not the other.

The number of people who lose credits and recieve no items from the store is surprisingly smaller than you'd think, and has more to do with their own connections than the server itself.

[D.I.Y_Death]

MissMinaethiel wrote...

Goodness before the funny all gets sapped away let's give some definitions.

Humility; the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.

That is a word for word definition which really does not apply to these credit exploiters whatsoever. What DOES apply is integrity which is this:

Integrity; adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty

Credit exploiters seem to have a lack of integrity. If there is an exploit that a dev happened to miss, it is a MORAL and HONEST decision to report said exploit so it can be fixed. Willfully and knowingly exploiting it means you lack integrity.

Now I'm a fairly tolerant woman and can brush off silly stupidity and let jokes slide, but if people are getting better rewards for doing half as much work it irritates the heck out of me. So I see no issue with the OP ruining their integrity-lacking EXPLOITING of a glitch. If they want something they gotta work for it instead of being petty and lazy enoguh to exploit a bug to get fast cash.

Do try arguing against that. How is it bad for exploiters to get trolled when they themselves are in the wrong in the first place?

Integrity is 100% subjective. Your morals don't apply to everyone else.

Oh, I agree, it's not entiely right that exploiters are exploiting but it's a co-op game. Are we all so jealous we need to ruin their fun? Because there's no other reason to complain other than jealousy. BioWare and MS have a right to complain because it effects potential profit margins, that's their money people are glitching away from them.

You can troll just aboput anyone, regardless if they desvere it or not.
"In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll[/i] may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". "

In this case by running into a exploit game and then purposely ruining it for them would be considered trolling, you're looking for an emotional reaction out of some silly emotional response.

To me it just seems really, really immature.

Modifié par D.I.Y_Death, 19 avril 2012 - 05:16 .

[Curzyfish]

SuperHamzah wrote...

I will resolve all issues using my logic:

1 - Glitch exploits should not be punished whilst glitches that make you LOSE credits are not compensated. You cannot have justice for one and not the other.

2 - Trolling exploiters is funny - finishing a wave and reviving your comrades is THE GAME, if playing THE GAME is trolling, then it's funny. Contradiction < foundation of humor.

3 - Play the game for fun and to improve your gameplay. Rewards are for this reason, which is why people who follow this formula have the most fun.

Please do not take this as trolling / being immature etc. as some other people here seem wont to do, this is simply me expressing a different view point.

I have to disagree with that first point.  Looking a few posts up about integrity pretty much sums up my feelings on that point.

As they say, "two wrongs do not make a right."

[Pichsterz]

LMAO!!! That was awesome.

[Thunderbird_74]

Kudos to the op, well played sir. :-)

[SuperHamzah]

InstaShark wrote...

SuperHamzah wrote...

I will resolve all issues using my logic:

1 - Glitch exploits should not be punished

I stopped reading after that.

ADHD is a ****.

[TheRealDingo]

D.Y.I.: By the definition you posted:
"In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll[/i] may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". "
... you sir, are a troll. If you aren't trying to provoke people, I don't know who is.

[Aarek]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

You can troll just aboput anyone, regardless if they desvere it or not.
"In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll[/i] may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". "

So in other words, you're a troll?

[InstaShark]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

In this case by running into a exploit game and then purposely ruining it for them would be considered trolling, you're looking for an emotional reaction out of some silly emotional response.

To me it just seems really, really immature.

SuperHamzah wrote...

ADHD is a ****.

Modifié par InstaShark, 19 avril 2012 - 05:18 .

[BoomDynamite]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

Sad Floppy Panda wrote...

Good work, OP.

Strawmen arguments is when someone refutes a a point someone makes by not addressing the actual issue and yet creating the illusion they have.

Its how people who can't argue, argue.

You instigated it.

[TheRealDingo]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

MissMinaethiel wrote...

Goodness before the funny all gets sapped away let's give some definitions.

Humility; the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.

That is a word for word definition which really does not apply to these credit exploiters whatsoever. What DOES apply is integrity which is this:

Integrity; adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty

Credit exploiters seem to have a lack of integrity. If there is an exploit that a dev happened to miss, it is a MORAL and HONEST decision to report said exploit so it can be fixed. Willfully and knowingly exploiting it means you lack integrity.

Now I'm a fairly tolerant woman and can brush off silly stupidity and let jokes slide, but if people are getting better rewards for doing half as much work it irritates the heck out of me. So I see no issue with the OP ruining their integrity-lacking EXPLOITING of a glitch. If they want something they gotta work for it instead of being petty and lazy enoguh to exploit a bug to get fast cash.

Do try arguing against that. How is it bad for exploiters to get trolled when they themselves are in the wrong in the first place?

Integrity is 100% subjective. Your morals don't apply to everyone else.

Oh, I agree, it's not entiely right that exploiters are exploiting but it's a co-op game. Are we all so jealous we need to ruin their fun? Because there's no other reason to complain other than jealousy. BioWare and MS have a right to complain because it effects potential profit margins, that's their money people are glitching away from them.

You can troll just aboput anyone, regardless if they desvere it or not.
"In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll[/i] may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". "

In this case by running into a exploit game and then purposely ruining it for them would be considered trolling, you're looking for an emotional reaction out of some silly emotional response.

To me it just seems really, really immature.

Then by your own definition you are a troll. And by your own words, "you should be punched in the face".

:innocent:

LMAO

[Ravenmyste]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

Because credit glitchers deserve to be trolled. In fact they deserve far worse than an occasional trolling. Why are you supporting the cheaters anyway? Guilty conscience? I hope not because I wouldn't want to be you once BioWare/EA gets a handle on the situation and start handing out bans like candy from the back of a shady van...

You don't hand out bans for a glitch, you hand out bans for cheating.
Why exactly do credit glitchers deserve to be trolled? Because they don't want to spend 60 minutes earning enough to buy a resurgance pack only to get character cards, thermal clips and medigel?

I hope someone trolls your face just for a lesson in humility to be passed on.

actually.....
yes ,you can.  if exploit the glitch and know what it does and continue to use the glitch, then yes you can and will be banned.. hence why its  would fall under cheating...

so nice try on saying you cant get banned for a glitch

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 19 avril 2012 - 05:24 .

[D.I.Y_Death]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

"That's what grade schoolers and fat, angry nerds who can't get a date do."

We can stop taking him seriously now right?

D.I.Y's guide to logic-
1-Kill all the fun
2-Accuse everyone of being immature
3-Threaten to punch people (online)
4-Accuse everyone of Strawman
5-If all else fails, resort to the tried and true "ur a nerd LOL get a gf," but class it up with some grammar.

Oh and butthurt reports if you call him out, whilest he on the other hand believes he is fully right throwing around Terroristic Threats of Physical Violence.

And yes TToPV is a serious offence on these forums.

It's ok, since he wanted to report me for my backside being dirty, I just smeared his own s*** back in his face. I hope he enjoys his lifetime ban from these forums.

Trolls gonna troll harder

There's an entire site dedictaed to the psychology you're demonstrating here.
http://youarenotsosmart.com/

This is the last post I'll respond to from you, you're constantly using strawmen arguments and illogical fallacies in order to damage my character, instead of addressing what I've said.

That is undeniably childish no matter how you look at it.

So I'm a troll because I tell trolls off? lolwut?

Modifié par D.I.Y_Death, 19 avril 2012 - 05:22 .

[fixit6]

Good job OP!

It even makes some so mad they threaten people with violence on this forum...wow.

I sense anger in the cheater, much anger.

Modifié par fixit6, 19 avril 2012 - 05:23 .

[nuculerman]

@DIY.

You voluntarily entered a contract with EA games, which stipulates you will not explot glitches. Doing so is breach of contract.

Please stop accusing others of being a child when you're clearly not ready for the life of an adult. Don't sign contracts you don't understand. You'll end up as a human centipede iPod, eating other people's excrement. Seriously, its a thing.

[justin_sayne1]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

Aren't you guys the picture of maturity, protip, trolls get punched in real life so why would you troll someone online?

Ah well, someone will give you yours.

Wait, I'm confused, who is the immature one here?:innocent:

[BoomDynamite]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

MissMinaethiel wrote...

Goodness before the funny all gets sapped away let's give some definitions.

Humility; the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.

That is a word for word definition which really does not apply to these credit exploiters whatsoever. What DOES apply is integrity which is this:

Integrity; adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty

Credit exploiters seem to have a lack of integrity. If there is an exploit that a dev happened to miss, it is a MORAL and HONEST decision to report said exploit so it can be fixed. Willfully and knowingly exploiting it means you lack integrity.

Now I'm a fairly tolerant woman and can brush off silly stupidity and let jokes slide, but if people are getting better rewards for doing half as much work it irritates the heck out of me. So I see no issue with the OP ruining their integrity-lacking EXPLOITING of a glitch. If they want something they gotta work for it instead of being petty and lazy enoguh to exploit a bug to get fast cash.

Do try arguing against that. How is it bad for exploiters to get trolled when they themselves are in the wrong in the first place?

Integrity is 100% subjective. Your morals don't apply to everyone else.

Oh, I agree, it's not entiely right that exploiters are exploiting but it's a co-op game. Are we all so jealous we need to ruin their fun? Because there's no other reason to complain other than jealousy. BioWare and MS have a right to complain because it effects potential profit margins, that's their money people are glitching away from them.

You can troll just aboput anyone, regardless if they desvere it or not.
"In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll[/i] may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". "

In this case by running into a exploit game and then purposely ruining it for them would be considered trolling, you're looking for an emotional reaction out of some silly emotional response.

To me it just seems really, really immature.

Bringing up Wikipedia doesn't prove anything.

[Klokateer]

Who is the strawman? Is that a band? Or is it like Burning Man? I've never been. I bet he means wicker man...

[Distilled Poison]

"illogical fallacies in order to damage my character, instead of addressing what I've said."

Where have you addressed anything anyone's said? Was it between being a face punching internet badass and calling people nerds?

[MissMinaethiel]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

MissMinaethiel wrote...

Goodness before the funny all gets sapped away let's give some definitions.

Humility; the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.

That is a word for word definition which really does not apply to these credit exploiters whatsoever. What DOES apply is integrity which is this:

Integrity; adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty

Credit exploiters seem to have a lack of integrity. If there is an exploit that a dev happened to miss, it is a MORAL and HONEST decision to report said exploit so it can be fixed. Willfully and knowingly exploiting it means you lack integrity.

Now I'm a fairly tolerant woman and can brush off silly stupidity and let jokes slide, but if people are getting better rewards for doing half as much work it irritates the heck out of me. So I see no issue with the OP ruining their integrity-lacking EXPLOITING of a glitch. If they want something they gotta work for it instead of being petty and lazy enoguh to exploit a bug to get fast cash.

Do try arguing against that. How is it bad for exploiters to get trolled when they themselves are in the wrong in the first place?

Integrity is 100% subjective. Your morals don't apply to everyone else.

Oh, I agree, it's not entiely right that exploiters are exploiting but it's a co-op game. Are we all so jealous we need to ruin their fun? Because there's no other reason to complain other than jealousy.

You can troll just aboput anyone, regardless if they desvere it or not.
"In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll[/i] may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". "

In this case by running into a exploit game and then purposely ruining it for them would be considered trolling, you're looking for an emotional reaction out of some silly emotional response.

To me it just seems really, really immature.

Perhaps not, but if lying is a moral thing then my world just got flipped upside down. Lying is never ok. Cheating has never been ok. Credit exploiters are indeed cheating. It is not an excuse to cheat because it's a co-op game. Technically ALL games are co-op games if they have MP.

In CoD you get banned for exploiting bugs/glitches.

In Reach you get banned for exploiting bugs/glitches.

In pretty much every game out there with MP you get banned for exploiting bugs/glitches because it can ruin a game for a lot of people. There is no use in saying that an exploiters idea of fun is cheating. They're in the wrong; it doesn't matter if it's fun for them or not.

I don't find it acceptable in the least that people can do half the work but get more than double the credits. That ruins the fun for me because while I'm getting things at my own pace the honest way, these guys are getting more rewards for cheating and not getting in trouble.

To me it's immature to ignore the spirit of the game and use a lazy, half-ass method to get mountains of credits while other people are actually doing it without cheating.

So really if they apparently are within their rights to cheat because it's "fun" then the OP is, in theory in his rights to troll them because it's "fun." You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either exploiters are in the right and so is the OP, exploiters are wrong and the OP is right, or, as a third choice, both parties are wrong.

Modifié par MissMinaethiel, 19 avril 2012 - 05:28 .

[Abraham_uk]

Distilled Poison wrote...

Some of you may know, I have nothing against credit exploiters, because the store system blows. HOWEVER, I'm also all about getting some laughs at other peoples' expense, because I'm a bad person.

Moving on- I was quick searching for farm lobbies, and gotin a credit exploit lobby that wasn't private. I could tell because as I was loading in I heard, "Is (the host) back in yet?" Followed by "Yeah, I'm back."

I decided to grab my mic, and waited. By the time I was in, the objective was finished and they were going down. I ran in with a missile launcher.

*Woosh BOOM*
Exploiter- "What was that?"
Me- "Don't worry guys, I got this!"
Exploiter, as I'm reviving them- "What? No, stop you'll mess it up! You f***ing idiot!"
Me- "Wait, I don't get it, why are you yelling at me? I'm helping! Oh, I went down. Don't worry, I have medigels!"
*Slurry of insults as I waste all my missiles to finish the wave*
The rage was fantastic because after that they would have to spend 15-20 minutes going through Bronze again

I honestly don't understand. Can either Distilled Poison (sounds like a name for a rock band) or someone else who understood this post, explain to me what this entire thread is about?