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[sp0ck 06]

 If you hated/disliked/didn't understand/were let down by the ending, read this editorial.

http://galacticpillo...ffect-3-ending/

It really might make you look differently at not just the ending but the whole of ME3.  If you want to love the conclusion to the series but just can't, please give this a read.  It's long but worth it.  

[lillitheris]

Yeah, we get it. We're not too dumb to understand what they changed their story to attempt to say at the last minute. That's not the problem with the ending. Sorry.

This is listed in the pro-ending compendium, by the way. You might find other interesting reading there.

[LucasShark]

This ending is worthless, period. It violates the very themes and design choices of ME1 and 2, end of story.

[sp0ck 06]

LucasShark wrote...

This ending is worthless, period. It violates the very themes and design choices of ME1 and 2, end of story.

Reading that article might change your mind about that.

[sp0ck 06]

lillitheris wrote...

Yeah, we get it. We're not too dumb to understand what they changed their story to attempt to say at the last minute. That's not the problem with the ending. Sorry.

This is listed in the pro-ending compendium, by the way. You might find other interesting reading there.

I know its listed there, so is my take on the endings.  But I really believe if people read this article it might at least make the ending bearable.  I honestly just want to help people, I'm not trying to prove anything.

[MattFini]

When you have to start referencing the work/theories of astrobiologists as a means of suggesting this was ALWAYS the intended direction of the series, you have absolutely failed.

[LucasShark]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Yeah, we get it. We're not too dumb to understand what they changed their story to attempt to say at the last minute. That's not the problem with the ending. Sorry.

This is listed in the pro-ending compendium, by the way. You might find other interesting reading there.

I know its listed there, so is my take on the endings.  But I really believe if people read this article it might at least make the ending bearable.  I honestly just want to help people, I'm not trying to prove anything.

you want to "help" people by lowering their standards?  Sorry, but people's standards are low enough.

[sp0ck 06]

MattFini wrote...

When you have to start referencing the work/theories of astrobiologists as a means of suggesting this was ALWAYS the intended direction of the series, you have absolutely failed.

Why?  Its a game about space faring civilizations and galactic cycles of evolution and extinction.  Astrobiology seems relevant.

[AcesRedd]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

 If you hated/disliked/didn't understand/were let down by the ending, read this editorial.

http://galacticpillo...ffect-3-ending/

It really might make you look differently at not just the ending but the whole of ME3.  If you want to love the conclusion to the series but just can't, please give this a read.  It's long but worth it.  

The length of this article vs. the length of the craptacular ending reinforces the amount of fail in the ending.
I wish there was a mathematician/scientist guy that could lay out the formula for me, but I'll try my best to explain.

article + ending = more fail than article and ending put together

wait wait

article + ending < (article + ending) ?

damn I think what we need is a physicist in here? 

[sp0ck 06]

LucasShark wrote...

sp0ck 06 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Yeah, we get it. We're not too dumb to understand what they changed their story to attempt to say at the last minute. That's not the problem with the ending. Sorry.

This is listed in the pro-ending compendium, by the way. You might find other interesting reading there.

I know its listed there, so is my take on the endings.  But I really believe if people read this article it might at least make the ending bearable.  I honestly just want to help people, I'm not trying to prove anything.

you want to "help" people by lowering their standards?  Sorry, but people's standards are low enough.

Not sure what you mean.  Lowering standards?  

[NM_Che56]

*pushes article aside*

If I have to be convinced that the ending is acceptable, then it probably wasn't that good of an ending.

[Grimwick]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

This ending is worthless, period. It violates the very themes and design choices of ME1 and 2, end of story.

Reading that article might change your mind about that.

The article honestly did not help. Still doesn't actually fix anything that's wrong with the endings.

[EricHVela]

Speculations based on sloppy work is equally sloppy.

[The Angry One]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Speculations based on sloppy work is equally sloppy.

Pretty much this.

[MattFini]

Because it wasn't necessary to "grasp" the whole of 1 or 2, and 95% of 3. And that is going to fly over the heads of the majority of people playing the game.

Yes, ME consists of some hard science fiction (crossed with more space opera-y fantasy) but when you're essentially saying you need to take classes to "understand" how we should've seen this coming it's a narrative failure.

Also, no amount of hard science can explain the farce of synthesis anyway.

[PsyrenY]

You may as well drop off the whole pro-ender thread: http://social.biowar.../index/11268753

But I agree with the other comments here: things would have been a lot better if they had somehow covered this material in-game rather than leaving the fans to work it out themselves.

I do love the analysis though and have linked it on other forums.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 19 avril 2012 - 04:16 .

[sp0ck 06]

AcesRedd wrote...

sp0ck 06 wrote...

 If you hated/disliked/didn't understand/were let down by the ending, read this editorial.

http://galacticpillo...ffect-3-ending/

It really might make you look differently at not just the ending but the whole of ME3.  If you want to love the conclusion to the series but just can't, please give this a read.  It's long but worth it.  

The length of this article vs. the length of the craptacular ending reinforces the amount of fail in the ending.
I wish there was a mathematician/scientist guy that could lay out the formula for me, but I'll try my best to explain.

article + ending = more fail than article and ending put together

wait wait

article + ending < (article + ending) ?

damn I think what we need is a physicist in here? 

Instead of wasting time in endless threads about the same subjects, why not waste time reading something that's actually incredibly well thought out and could possibly make you look at the ending is a slightly positive way?  

Do you guys just WANT to hate everything Mass Effect now?

Just give it a chance.

[The Angry One]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

Instead of wasting time in endless threads about the same subjects, why not waste time reading something that's actually incredibly well thought out and could possibly make you look at the ending is a slightly positive way?  

Do you guys just WANT to hate everything Mass Effect now?

Just give it a chance.

Because it's not well thought out.
It's also fanfiction. This is not an issue about wanting to hate. It changes nothing.

[ppeters77]

Stopped reading after:
"The ending is very strongly foreshadowed throughout the whole series"

Can't be, the original ending was supposed to be built on dark energy. Also the label "esoteric" bothers me, especially when used in combination with a tech-heavy sci-fi scenario.

[cutegigi]

at the end it just a very long speculations.

[LucasShark]

Read, and to save everyone else' time: it's basically "If I spray enough babble to obscure the ending's blaring problems, eventually it kind of becomes barable." In doing so, simply making things up which are never made apparent.

[Phillips94]

I read it, yeah i get it all i still dont like the ending of the game and even if this made you like it, it still a crap ending for us to have to go look else where to like the game

[MOELANDER]

I already read this some days ago, and no it didn't help. The main reason for this is what we in the film industry call "target audience". You might have heard of that. If ME3 had been that High and mighty philosophical SciFi game, then this might have worked, but it was never advertised as one, it was never themed as one and it never felt like one. So... Sorry doesn't work

[LucasShark]

ALso: "the ending is strongly foreshadowed"

BULL ****ING ****!

We KNOW there was another ending planned, we know this. The main antagonist of this ending isn't even introduced until 10 minutes before the end. THAT IS NOT when you introduce a central conflict of the storyline.

[Cobretti ftw]

Another one claiming that those who didnt like the ending "couldnt understand it".

hahaha thats got to be a joke
article dont fix anything about the ending btw