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[Ultra Prism]

When we use Phaeston X ... its damage at the best  >> negligible

But (Maruader Shields)s ... will tear through shields and health ...

what kind of gameplay design is that?

[zhk3r]

How about Geth Trooper's Geth Plasma Rifle? If my GPR was that insane, I'd use it more.

[KroganSmash]

It's space magic

[zhk3r]

KroganSmash wrote...

It's space magic

This.

[KainD]

How about Nemesis Raptor?



I mean,raptor does insane damage with each shot. =D

[wilzoon]

The cerberus upgraded it for the nemesis, just like they upgraded the Normandy

The villains always get the better toys

Modifié par wilzoon, 19 avril 2012 - 04:25 .

[Abramsrunner]

Same thing going on with the Nemesis Raptor.
I'm shooting some random cerberus guy with a Raptor X it does little damage per shot.
Then comes along a Nemesis and pops my shields with one shot.

[Ultra Prism]

Oh yeah even more Raptor does one shot shield damage ... WTF

So much of Space Magic even in MP

Modifié par Ultra Prism, 19 avril 2012 - 04:26 .

[Rahviel]

I want to know how cerberus troopers are able to make the hornet work so well for them or why hunters never bother to charge/reload their GPS

Modifié par Rahviel, 19 avril 2012 - 04:28 .

[Icophesis]

Well to be fair this is one of those "its just a video game, look the other way" kind of moments. Any other game where you can use the same weapons as your enemy, the enemy magically hits harder with it on higher difficulties. Or then theres active reloading in gears of war which makes your bullets magically better.

[KainD]

Rahviel wrote...

I want to know how cerberus troopers are able to make the hornet work so well for them or why hunters never bother to charge/reload their GPS

OMG, if I never had to recharge my GPS... 

[sirjimmus86]

Space magic maybe but this kind of mechanic is in nearly all games past and present?

CoD/BF3 - get shot? just wait it off, once the screen no longer looks red = good to go one shotting baddies.

Final fantasy = most things will die after being cut in half ONCE by a sword

If weapon damage was equal it'd be so boring, either you go out and shoot an enemy, hoping you don't get one shotted first by a cannibal, or you both stand there piddling on each other for 20 minutes.

The only game I can think of recently where this mechanic was slighlty different was something like Batman AI/AC where he could only take a few (10) punches/kicks before going down, or even one or two bullets, despite wearing armour. At the same time he couldn't one shot enemies without special combos (pushing it now I know)

[drakeSVK]

The Phaeston is actually pretty decent after the recent balance changes.

[AdmLancel]

It seems pretty clear to me that players have less overall health and shields than critters do. I mean basically there's a huge difference between players and enemies in terms of how stuff works. Their stuff takes forever to recharge, but is generally harder to punch through. We just get weaker stuff that recharges/heals much more quickly.

I mean I never see enemies use Stasis or Singularity on us either, they mostly just either melee or shoot you.

Really it's just a gameplay thing.  Players being light on overall health but quickly recharging makes it exciting in a fight and easy to recover to make a comeback, while health on enemies make it a challenge to kill them without letting them constantly regenerate like players, which can make some of your attacks pointless if you don't finish the job.  And no one likes to feel powerless, so they don't get the crowd control.

Modifié par AdmLancel, 19 avril 2012 - 04:36 .

[january42]

Final fantasy = most things will die after being cut in half ONCE by a sword
)

Not seeing the problem.
Besides, it's isn't possible to cut something in half more than once.

[richcz3]

I wouldn't expect the AI to be able to compete if their weapons damage were equal to ours. If their weapons were comparable to players, it would be a cake walk - they don't employ anywhere near the varied powers players can employ as a group.
About the only thing I do have an issue with is that sometimes enemy animations seem really sped up; pulling off hyper fast transitions to run, duck and fire back.

[Abramsrunner]

KainD wrote...

Rahviel wrote...

I want to know how cerberus troopers are able to make the hornet work so well for them or why hunters never bother to charge/reload their GPS

OMG, if I never had to recharge my GPS... 

And the hunters power to fire while being stuned.

[AdmLancel]

M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

And the hunters power to fire while being stuned.

That one actually does annoy me.  "Oh, it's staggered!  Now I can finish it off!" and then I just get counter-staggered by its shotgun while it's staggered.

[QCteamkill]

AdmLancel wrote...

I mean I never see enemies use Stasis or Singularity on us either, they mostly just either melee or shoot you.

Would be so cool.

Get Stased: Time to refresh the coffee mug!

[Nickle]

Well, marauder shields is the end boss of the whole series...

[Pyrceval78]

january42 wrote...

Final fantasy = most things will die after being cut in half ONCE by a sword
)

Not seeing the problem.
Besides, it's isn't possible to cut something in half more than once.

Thats his point.  in the FF crap games you have a 100 pound sword thats like 20 feet long and it takes you several swings to kill anything with it. 

[pacientK]

Rahviel wrote...

I want to know how cerberus troopers are able to make the hornet work so well for them or why hunters never bother to charge/reload their GPS

Actually hunters reload their GPSs all the time.

[KainD]

pacientK wrote...

Rahviel wrote...

I want to know how cerberus troopers are able to make the hornet work so well for them or why hunters never bother to charge/reload their GPS

Actually hunters reload their GPSs all the time.

Actually I have never seen any enemy reload anything.

[BoomDynamite]

Centurions' Mattock?

[cruc1al]

BoomDynamite wrote...

Centurions' Mattock?

It's Argus.