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[Wulfram]

When even with full support from sabotaging the genophage cure they contribute such a mediocre amount of war assets.  Like, barely above the Volus.  Compared to the Krogan or the Quarians, it's just ridiculous.

I'm generally not sympathetic to claims of paragon favouritism, but here I have to say the renegades got screwed pretty badly.

[Baihu1983]

Trying to kill the Krogan got them good points with the others somehow.

[sAxMoNkI]

They aren't a frontline military, their whole strategy hinges around knowing an enemy's intentions and pre-emptively attacking before the enemy can adequately prepare. Says in the codex somewhere that their philosophy is to make sure the war is won before the first battle.

[Unholyknight800]

Their fleets may not be as large but they have good intelligence networks and their tech is unrivalled.

[Doomhams]

Being on the council I think is more politics than military might. Humans were granted a position because they had to do something after the Alliance sacrificed so much to save their asses.

[The Angry One]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

They aren't a frontline military, their whole strategy hinges around knowing an enemy's intentions and pre-emptively attacking before the enemy can adequately prepare. Says in the codex somewhere that their philosophy is to make sure the war is won before the first battle.

And before that they hold the line!

[GLR-0053]

Being the 2nd space faring civilization and +1 for Krogan Genophage.

[Unholyknight800]

Plus taking part in forming the council got them some good points.

[Soda Master]

How they got to be a Council Race? Probably through bribing/assassinating the right people. /End krogan favoritism.

They also happen to be, y'know, pretty technologically advanced, so what they bring to the table (during peacetime) isn't necessarily equivalent to what they bring in military strength. Timing probably had a lot to do with it - helping to found the Council and all.

It always seemed to me that the top three races at the time of the founding set up the Council and then proceeded to do their absolute damnedest to make sure no one else was allowed to join. All the the other crap they put out was just to make sure that they three stayed in power, even when it would have made more sense to let the other races join as well - the Council/Embassies relationship forced the other races to stand as supplicants before them. It wasn't until humans brought around both overwhelming PR pressure and the provision of manpower in a time of crisis that another race was allowed to have a say - and even then one could tell they were just putting up with us for our resources and the bodies we put into C-Sec, etc. The human councilor got treated like a precocious toddler.

Modifié par LnzOQuin, 19 avril 2012 - 04:51 .

[Wulfram]

Unholyknight800 wrote...

Their fleets may not be as large but they have good intelligence networks and their tech is unrivalled.

Which should be represented as war assets, no?  But it's not, at all.  There's a fairly modest STG asset, and the only scientific contribution they make to the Crucible is Mordin who may well be dead.

[sAxMoNkI]

The Angry One wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

They aren't a frontline military, their whole strategy hinges around knowing an enemy's intentions and pre-emptively attacking before the enemy can adequately prepare. Says in the codex somewhere that their philosophy is to make sure the war is won before the first battle.

And before that they hold the line!

Haha how could I forget

Wulfram wrote...

Unholyknight800 wrote...

Their fleets may not be as large but they have good intelligence networks and their tech is unrivalled.

Which
should be represented as war assets, no?  But it's not, at all. 
There's a fairly modest STG asset, and the only scientific contribution
they make to the Crucible is Mordin who may well be dead.

The tech may have come in handy for the crucible but that's all I can see really aside from raw military strength that would be useful. I don't see intelligence being useful against reapers in a conventional sense, I mean good if you get warning that they are coming your way buuuut then what? Stay and fight anyway or leg it?

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 19 avril 2012 - 04:44 .

[Unholyknight800]

Yeah well either you get two fleets, one fleet or simply the STG. Otherwise their contribution is quite pathetic.

[jumpingkaede]

Unholyknight800 wrote...

Their fleets may not be as large but they have good intelligence networks and their tech is unrivalled.

But... but Kassa Fabrications and the Serrice Council. 

[Unholyknight800]

jumpingkaede wrote...

Unholyknight800 wrote...

Their fleets may not be as large but they have good intelligence networks and their tech is unrivalled.

But... but Kassa Fabrications and the Serrice Council. 

Stealth Dreadnoughts!!!!

[Sir Adamus]

Considering they were the second space faring race of this cycle, they got onto the council by proxy.

[Noblewolf]

Never mind.

Modifié par Noblewolf, 19 avril 2012 - 04:51 .

[Unholyknight800]

Noblewolf wrote...

Unholyknight800 wrote...

Yeah well either you get two fleets, one fleet or simply the STG. Otherwise their contribution is quite pathetic.

You can get both if you kill wrex in ME1

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[humes spork]

First come, first served. They were the second race on the Citadel, after the asari.

And, open warfare is the salarians' weak point. Their strength in warfare is almost entirely covert, between sabotaging supply lines, learning enemy strategy and tactics beforehand and preemptively countering them, assassination and such. Hell, salarians regard declaring war an act of foolishness and willingly ceding a strategic advantage for no reason. None of those things work against the Reapers.

Modifié par humes spork, 19 avril 2012 - 04:55 .

[Carlthestrange]

Hopefully after the war that idiotic Dalatrass got removed from power if you cured the Krogan.

[Wulfram]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

The tech may have come in handy for the crucible but that's all I can see really aside from raw military strength that would be useful. I don't see intelligence being useful against reapers in a conventional sense, I mean good if you get warning that they are coming your way buuuut then what? Stay and fight anyway or leg it?

Intellingence would certainly be useful against Cerberus, which is part of the war effort.  And the raiding and sabotage style of warfare that the STG uses is basically what Shepard does, so I don't think you can say that wouldn't be useful against the reapers.

But anyway, they're supposed to have a powerful conventional military too.  Like twice the number of dreadnoughts that the alliance has, and extremely high tech.

[BattleVisor]

Salarian Admiral 'Final battle in the Sol system against the reapers ... oh that was today??'

[PsyrenY]

humes spork wrote...

First come, first served. They were the second race on the Citadel, after the asari.

Not only that, but Weekes believes that had the Asari not cheated via their Prothean Beacon/goddess, the Salarians might have been first. They were the only race to discover the citadel without outside help.

[Sir Adamus]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Hopefully after the war that idiotic Dalatrass got removed from power if you cured the Krogan.

Dalatrasses are Salarian family heads, and they each hold a lot of power. I imagine the Solus Dalatrass is getting mad props for Mordin's sacrifice.

[humes spork]

Wulfram wrote...

But anyway, they're supposed to have a powerful conventional military too.  Like twice the number of dreadnoughts that the alliance has, and extremely high tech.

The Salarian First Fleet war asset entry answers this.

[Warp92]

Weren't the Salarians the second race to discover the Citadel..?