Yajuu Omoi wrote...
Gatt9 wrote...
Yajuu Omoi wrote...
Her's the thing...if your paying attention to these posts, i've already stated i believe they made a HUGE mistake with the way that they ended the game, however, it is NOT my place to demand anything of them, I can voice my opinion, give feedback, but after that, it's THEIR game and THEIR choice to do something.
That is a consumers place, if you wish to demand a change? Become a franchise owner, or designer, THEN you will have a say in what happens.
Your assertion falls apart on the fact that the consumers bought the game on highly specific statements made by EA prior to the release of the game, some of them made on the day of release, that were factually incorrect.
All that's ever been demanded is that EA deliver the product they very specifically and unambiguously described.
Which is quite honestly, a consumer's responsiblity.
Sentiments like yours will just end up producing nothing but ever more expesive games with fewer and fewer features until EA's dream of charging you $1 every time you reload your clip becomes a reality.
Uh, no. I've already stated that they did not give a game they claimed to have made, but we still bought it. if we aren't happy with it? We go somewhere else. simple fact. if you were to go watch a movie that highly anticipated, and its being claimed to be one of the greatest movies of all time...and when it comes out...it flops, do the people who bought tickets to it demand they re do part of the movie? NO, why? because they have the sensability to relize, its a STUPID notion, you don't like something, you go somewhere else.
You don't demand to change something when you have no place even saying how it should be in the first place.
I don't like the ending, but i enjoy the MP, so i play the MP. i didn't even restart the SP one i completeed it for the achievement on the 360, but i keep playing the MP because its entertaining, i have no plans to get the EC DLC because i've lost interest in the story after seeing the horrible job they did with the conclusion.
See, here you touch on another key problem.
When a movie is reviewed, the movie reviewer has no financial incentive to give the movie a rating in either direction. The movie studio doesn't have the ability to influence his publication, it can't prevent him from seeing the movie until it's too late, he simply reviews the movie. So if he pronounces a movie the "greatest movie of all time", it's because he thinks it's the greatest movie of all time.
When IGN reviewed ME3, one of their employees who was a part of the game and invested in it's success played a significant part. When Gamespot and the other sites reviewed the game, they knew that the number they gave it would affect the advertising dollars that are used to write their paychecks. Review embargoes, and the pressure to rate a game high so you can break it and get more traffic. If you don't rate a game highly enough, there's a very good chance you won't be able to review the next game until it's too late.
The Publishers tightly control the ratings in Gaming Journalism. So if I had waited for the ME3 reviews, I would've been told "It was the greatest game ever!" and they would've made no mention of any problems.
The entire gaming industry is designed to misinform a consumer and obtain their money before there's a chance for people to talk about what the game actually is.
So, based upon that, I feel your analogy isn't valid. With Movies I have the opportunity to make an informed choice, with gaming, the Publishers go to great lengths to make sure I don't get information to make a choice.
So again, I reiterate. EA made highly specific false statements about the product they released, as a consumer, I have a right and responsibility to demand the product I was told I would receive.
Or to use an analogy in return, if I order a Camaro, and Chevy tells me I'll get a Red one. The dealer tells me my red camaro is in, and I go to pick it up and discover it's white, I have a right and responsibility to demand the red one. No matter how much the dealer insists that white is actually red, and they didn't lie to me, it's not my responsibility to just be quiet and take a white one.
Releasing a bad game is one thing, in that case, sure your statements are correct. EA intentionally spread disinformation in order to influence purchasing decisions.
That's a completely different type of issue.