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[Mr. Gogeta34]

Sarah Knight wrote...
ive found creative threads  on various wp "webpages" that didnt moan as much as on biowares site  but its decent i guess

Coolness, then you may come to appreciate all the feedback these boards provide afterall.

[Althix]

jesus h. christ just get this over with.

you guys looks like a child with a candy that not as tasty as you though it should be.

[Sarah Knight]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
ive found creative threads  on various wp "webpages" that didnt moan as much as on biowares site  but its decent i guess

Coolness, then you may come to appreciate all the feedback these boards provide afterall.

i do but i think that they need to "cry less" and explain it more calmly to bioware without the anger it would do them good   as well as bioware would understand what the problem is and them fixing it but i wont defend them anymore as i stated in my previous comment  i'm done with that so i'm going to remain neutral  throughout the entire Me 
raging and biowares side.

[visionazzery]

Like any protest movement, it loses steam after a while no different to unions obsessing about their rights with little regard to budget bottom lines by the state in the end these movements try to force change and though some compromise change has been achieved it will always remain questionable as to whether being involved in such protests movements was worthwhile for those who joined it. I did but briefly only for like 2 days out of the 30-40 plus it been going for then i lost interest why? Because thanx to multiplayer me3 is so much bigger than just the outcome the journey is superb, the gameplay is near flawless except in multiplayer with their buggy as anything servers:O customization and more tactical enemies are back rpg elements are a big improvement but not perfect the point being mass effect franchise appeal are about the journey to many and that means more than the outcome.

Hence, the fact that Bioware regardless whether they did it for selfish reasons or not, in the end, made the decision and i quote to 'NOT CHANGE THE ENDING' and therefore it already proven half the movement's objective has failed. What i noticed when i did glance the slowdown that i predicted was that pple got sick and tired of the very lowed minority within it abusing unjustifiably in offensive and racist undertones with stinging personal attacks at the individuals responsible for mass effect and the majority of pple who were part of that broader minority protest group got sick and tired of the excessive personal abuse and attacks and this is what happens when a movement exploits its freedom- others exploit it as its aim is drowned out by a poorly structured and conducted movement. The objective was generic within its intent, the so called 'moderators' or founders of the facebook page while warning to be constructive failed to uphold and maintain discipline and if you do that in any movement or organisation it pisses the hell off of the mostly civilised pple who would want to put their contructive view forward in such a movement.

I also always maintained though it is unofficially the 'biggest' 'protest' movement in social media's (short lived thus far) history, that of the several million gameowners worldwide a turnout of 60,000 around abouts is without doubt a very small minority of the majority of fans.

But in the end it cannot be emphasized enough bioware has officially spoken and in doing so i not saying i endorse it but int erms of business practices it made perfect sense as a clever strategy to undermine the movements influence- and that is they limited it they confronted (bioware that is) the issue of the ending head on and since stating the point of limit of what the extension will and will not do they have subsequently undermined the ending protest movement campaign taking away its power.

WHY? ANSWER: PPLE GENERALLY ACCEPT IT BETTER TO WAIT AND SEE COS ONCE THE COMPANY HAS SPOKEN AND HAS MADE CLEAR THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES IT TAKES THE STING OUT OF THE DEBATE. THAT WHAT BIOWARE DID BY LOWERING A LOT FO PPLE'S UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS (BUT NOT UNREASONABLE MIND YOU) BY ANNOUNCING WHAT THEY WILL AND WILL NOT DO FROM THAT POINT FANS CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT NO IN BETWEEN IT JUST BECOMES SHALLOW TO PERSIST ON A POINT OF ARGUMENT ONCE THE COMPANY TJHE PPLE WITH THE EXECUTIVE POWER AND CREATIVE RIGHTS HAVE SPOKEN WHAT THAT PHRASE? 'FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE?' AND THAT EXACTLY WHAT THE MOVEMENT IS AT RISK OF DOING NOW.

And the fact is this forum has proven to be more rational, more diverse and more sensible and insightful than the movement ever was. The place that majority of pple reflected by sheer numbers of bioware social network members inc omparison to the piddly ammounton the movement's facebook page prove that THIS forum will be the place to hotly debate the upcoming expansion dlc ebnding. And there will and should be debate about it.

But what is beyond doubt or question is common sense suggests it is pointless and a waste of time for the movement to stubbornly persistently insist on changing the ending further when bioware yet again have the last word and though we and i for one was less than impressed with there choice of ending i for one as many here do respect as pple who have worked as part of various companies in our time, that indeed a business decision can be debated but should not lead to clients having false hope of further change when the company decides ont he limit of a change and states the limit that is final.

Is it not?

In the end i much more concerned about the amoutn of future single player dlc content beyond the ending argument which is really getting tedious and obviously everyone is sick of it and just wants to enjoy what they have or move to other games

[Sarah Knight]

secretsandlies wrote...

jesus h. christ just get this over with.

you guys looks like a child with a candy that not as tasty as you though it should be.

True enough  but thats Life for you   nothing is perfect  not you not me Not anyone no matter how you look at it theirs always a flaw  in everything even computers "Viruses"  are the main reason Comps crash or break  "without our intervention of breaking them"  Just pointing that out to be honest

[xkg]

Sarah Knight wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

jesus h. christ just get this over with.

you guys looks like a child with a candy that not as tasty as you though it should be.

True enough  but thats Life for you   nothing is perfect  not you not me Not anyone no matter how you look at it theirs always a flaw  in everything even computers "Viruses"  are the main reason Comps crash or break  "without our intervention of breaking them"  Just pointing that out to be honest

Lol no, computer viruses are made by humans - they are not computers flaws. It is someones interevention (virus creator) to break someones elses computer.

Bugs on the other hand - yeah, you can call them a flaw because they are unintentional.

Modifié par xkg, 23 avril 2012 - 10:49 .

[Sarah Knight]

visionazzery wrote...

Like any protest movement, it loses steam after a while no different to unions obsessing about their rights with little regard to budget bottom lines by the state in the end these movements try to force change and though some compromise change has been achieved it will always remain questionable as to whether being involved in such protests movements was worthwhile for those who joined it. I did but briefly only for like 2 days out of the 30-40 plus it been going for then i lost interest why? Because thanx to multiplayer me3 is so much bigger than just the outcome the journey is superb, the gameplay is near flawless except in multiplayer with their buggy as anything servers:O customization and more tactical enemies are back rpg elements are a big improvement but not perfect the point being mass effect franchise appeal are about the journey to many and that means more than the outcome.

Hence, the fact that Bioware regardless whether they did it for selfish reasons or not, in the end, made the decision and i quote to 'NOT CHANGE THE ENDING' and therefore it already proven half the movement's objective has failed. What i noticed when i did glance the slowdown that i predicted was that pple got sick and tired of the very lowed minority within it abusing unjustifiably in offensive and racist undertones with stinging personal attacks at the individuals responsible for mass effect and the majority of pple who were part of that broader minority protest group got sick and tired of the excessive personal abuse and attacks and this is what happens when a movement exploits its freedom- others exploit it as its aim is drowned out by a poorly structured and conducted movement. The objective was generic within its intent, the so called 'moderators' or founders of the facebook page while warning to be constructive failed to uphold and maintain discipline and if you do that in any movement or organisation it pisses the hell off of the mostly civilised pple who would want to put their contructive view forward in such a movement.

I also always maintained though it is unofficially the 'biggest' 'protest' movement in social media's (short lived thus far) history, that of the several million gameowners worldwide a turnout of 60,000 around abouts is without doubt a very small minority of the majority of fans.

But in the end it cannot be emphasized enough bioware has officially spoken and in doing so i not saying i endorse it but int erms of business practices it made perfect sense as a clever strategy to undermine the movements influence- and that is they limited it they confronted (bioware that is) the issue of the ending head on and since stating the point of limit of what the extension will and will not do they have subsequently undermined the ending protest movement campaign taking away its power.

WHY? ANSWER: PPLE GENERALLY ACCEPT IT BETTER TO WAIT AND SEE COS ONCE THE COMPANY HAS SPOKEN AND HAS MADE CLEAR THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES IT TAKES THE STING OUT OF THE DEBATE. THAT WHAT BIOWARE DID BY LOWERING A LOT FO PPLE'S UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS (BUT NOT UNREASONABLE MIND YOU) BY ANNOUNCING WHAT THEY WILL AND WILL NOT DO FROM THAT POINT FANS CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT NO IN BETWEEN IT JUST BECOMES SHALLOW TO PERSIST ON A POINT OF ARGUMENT ONCE THE COMPANY TJHE PPLE WITH THE EXECUTIVE POWER AND CREATIVE RIGHTS HAVE SPOKEN WHAT THAT PHRASE? 'FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE?' AND THAT EXACTLY WHAT THE MOVEMENT IS AT RISK OF DOING NOW.

And the fact is this forum has proven to be more rational, more diverse and more sensible and insightful than the movement ever was. The place that majority of pple reflected by sheer numbers of bioware social network members inc omparison to the piddly ammounton the movement's facebook page prove that THIS forum will be the place to hotly debate the upcoming expansion dlc ebnding. And there will and should be debate about it.

But what is beyond doubt or question is common sense suggests it is pointless and a waste of time for the movement to stubbornly persistently insist on changing the ending further when bioware yet again have the last word and though we and i for one was less than impressed with there choice of ending i for one as many here do respect as pple who have worked as part of various companies in our time, that indeed a business decision can be debated but should not lead to clients having false hope of further change when the company decides ont he limit of a change and states the limit that is final.

Is it not?

In the end i much more concerned about the amoutn of future single player dlc content beyond the ending argument which is really getting tedious and obviously everyone is sick of it and just wants to enjoy what they have or move to other games

better said than i could of put my self  Thank you and i also Agree 100% with you on this i'm Tired of people Doing as you said  "harrassing the company to  Make the change to the entire  ending"  i dont mind the clarification Dlc  that is okay with me but the whole thing?  People Dont understand   The time it makes a game  you need "money Resources  a good team in both that and   dev /photo/movie  ops" if you dont have that Well lets just say Your doomed to fail as a game but it takes time an resources i bet you that every game released Took them almost "6 or 8 months"  some times more  before they have their "artistic" minds set  and me on this and Mp  i loved them both i just hope that they bring the Combat thingy for the Sniper that  they removed in  MP the one that gives you a 17,50 at lvl 5  for damage + 35% breathing stability  that on a black widow or any other weapon for the lack of accuracy = owneage  well in sniper terms any way  wasnt made for smgs shotty pistols  or AR's for that matter. but i do hope that they release more better Dlc  in the near future

[TsubakiYayoi]

As long as Im still complaining about the "endings" the movement isn´t dead

Modifié par TsubakiYayoi, 23 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[SalsaDMA]

Sarah Knight wrote...
  Games Do not get people "killed"

Tell that to the people that keep pulling the "he was playing violent games" card, whenever a random shooting happens:whistle:

[Mr. Gogeta34]

secretsandlies wrote...

jesus h. christ just get this over with.

you guys looks like a child with a candy that not as tasty as you though it should be.

A roach in a delicious burger is far more accurate.  Can't blame a customer for complaining about that.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 23 avril 2012 - 10:55 .

[ToaOrka]

RetakeME3 was more of a fad than an actual movement, and with half of the "movement" being made of people with very small attention spans, well, it's only natural LolExtendedCut killed it. Not like it was going to do any good had it stayed at full strength, but I digress.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

TsubakiYayoi wrote...

As long as Im still complaining about the "endings" the movement isn´t dead

If the movement is based on complaints regarding the "endings" then the movement will never die.

[SalsaDMA]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
Not True  Game companies themselves Dont make Change till their next game no matter how badly  Any one Demands it   and honestly comparing them to a Car Company ? that their is pointless view right their  Games Do not get people "killed" over  one or more Flaws that the "cry babies"  complain about  Look at fallout   and a few others that had bad Reviews?  they didn't change till their NEXT  TITLE RELEASE  which is more than likely  What bioware is going to do and honestly i dont see why you guys cry and 13itch  about every little thing  it wasn't intended  for pleasing no Games are  Their intended to keep our minds off of troubles and enjoy the game For what it is  So what ME3  had things you babies dont like  its just a game as i said just to keep your mind off of your PAST or anything that UPSETS OR PISSES YOU OFF. So please Do  us a favor for those  who actually "LIKE OR LOVE IT" a favor   Grow a pair of Balls and  dont by another Game from bioware  or Keep silent and take ME3 for what it is.

its your Fault For not   listening to player revies Not bioware   nor the Press   and other websites that gave it a good rating "Which i agree with"   dont Get me wrong   the game is good but you have to see it from the perspective Mass effect never had MP  They Took their time  Making it for those that DEMANDED   MP  based games And Guess what?  They Did  so   on Me3  Which is why they probably didn't "fill the blanks plotholes" or W/e you guys are Crying about. that or Some douche bag  Leaked it and they decided to change it  as i keep Saying on OP Raptor Op Goliath  and fortress  im tired of  defending you guys that Cry and Moan to bioware  Just because you see flaws and  constantly Anger those who like the game .

You seem to have gotten things confused. The car thing was simply an example... but the same elements (a company selling a product/service that they screwed up with while others were able to look past the faults).

If it was a "every little thing," trust me, the backlash would not have been this extreme.  The backlash is there because Bioware seriously dropped the ball. 

This also has nothing to do with whether you personally enjoyed the game as a whole or otherwise (I did).  Not the point.

I'll follow your logic for a second though:

It's your fault for not being aware that people would be complaining/bashing the endings, not the people complaining/bashing the ending themselves.  Just because you don't see flaws and constantly Anger those who don't like the game.

So please Do  us a favor for those  who actually "DISLIKE OR HATE IT" a favor   Grow a pair of Balls and dont read another post from those posters  or Keep silent and take the ME3 complaints for what they are.

See what I did thar?

You forgot to point out the flawed mentioning Sarah did of it being the consumers fault "not to listen to Bioware" about the game prior to purchase, as evidence shows Bioware were clearly producing misleading info about their product.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

ToaOrka wrote...

RetakeME3 was more of a fad than an actual movement, and with half of the "movement" being made of people with very small attention spans, well, it's only natural LolExtendedCut killed it. Not like it was going to do any good had it stayed at full strength, but I digress.

And here I thought it was the ending lovers that had the small attention spans (silly me). 

You should make a thread explaining the endings so everyone can drink from the cup of your superior wisdom.
//really, you dislike the endings, so your wisdom is superior, no sarcasm

Warning:  Be prepared to back up that ignorant claim of yours.//sarcasm

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 23 avril 2012 - 11:22 .

[ToaOrka]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

RetakeME3 was more of a fad than an actual movement, and with half of the "movement" being made of people with very small attention spans, well, it's only natural LolExtendedCut killed it. Not like it was going to do any good had it stayed at full strength, but I digress.

And here I thought it was the ending lovers that had the small attention spans (silly me).  You should make a thread explaining the endings so everyone can drink from the cup of your superior wisdom.

Can you explain to me where I said I liked the endings? I'm simply pointing out that if the group had less people with short attention spans and more people that were actually active, such as by updating the face-book page or something, it wouldn't seem as if the movement was dead. Let's not try to look for something where it obviously isn't. How could you honestly think I support the ending with my Garrus-Ending signature? Logic please?

[Mr. Gogeta34]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
Not True  Game companies themselves Dont make Change till their next game no matter how badly  Any one Demands it   and honestly comparing them to a Car Company ? that their is pointless view right their  Games Do not get people "killed" over  one or more Flaws that the "cry babies"  complain about  Look at fallout   and a few others that had bad Reviews?  they didn't change till their NEXT  TITLE RELEASE  which is more than likely  What bioware is going to do and honestly i dont see why you guys cry and 13itch  about every little thing  it wasn't intended  for pleasing no Games are  Their intended to keep our minds off of troubles and enjoy the game For what it is  So what ME3  had things you babies dont like  its just a game as i said just to keep your mind off of your PAST or anything that UPSETS OR PISSES YOU OFF. So please Do  us a favor for those  who actually "LIKE OR LOVE IT" a favor   Grow a pair of Balls and  dont by another Game from bioware  or Keep silent and take ME3 for what it is.

its your Fault For not   listening to player revies Not bioware   nor the Press   and other websites that gave it a good rating "Which i agree with"   dont Get me wrong   the game is good but you have to see it from the perspective Mass effect never had MP  They Took their time  Making it for those that DEMANDED   MP  based games And Guess what?  They Did  so   on Me3  Which is why they probably didn't "fill the blanks plotholes" or W/e you guys are Crying about. that or Some douche bag  Leaked it and they decided to change it  as i keep Saying on OP Raptor Op Goliath  and fortress  im tired of  defending you guys that Cry and Moan to bioware  Just because you see flaws and  constantly Anger those who like the game .

You seem to have gotten things confused. The car thing was simply an example... but the same elements (a company selling a product/service that they screwed up with while others were able to look past the faults).

If it was a "every little thing," trust me, the backlash would not have been this extreme.  The backlash is there because Bioware seriously dropped the ball. 

This also has nothing to do with whether you personally enjoyed the game as a whole or otherwise (I did).  Not the point.

I'll follow your logic for a second though:

It's your fault for not being aware that people would be complaining/bashing the endings, not the people complaining/bashing the ending themselves.  Just because you don't see flaws and constantly Anger those who don't like the game.

So please Do  us a favor for those  who actually "DISLIKE OR HATE IT" a favor   Grow a pair of Balls and dont read another post from those posters  or Keep silent and take the ME3 complaints for what they are.

See what I did thar?

You forgot to point out the flawed mentioning Sarah did of it being the consumers fault "not to listen to Bioware" about the game prior to purchase, as evidence shows Bioware were clearly producing misleading info about their product.

... you're absolutely right.


//Was that so hard Bioware?

[Sarah Knight]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
  Games Do not get people "killed"

Tell that to the people that keep pulling the "he was playing violent games" card, whenever a random shooting happens:whistle:

not True  people that blame it on "video games" just like to blame it on them because of their "CHILDS STUPIDITY"
 that  their Child thought was  "cool and  more than likely thought  that people respawn cause of the games they played"   i know i put my statement again to your side but what you people dont understand is that We humans had Violence Long before Any movie or Video game was ever released  Hence  Roman Gladiator arena's  Med evil times with swords bows and axes  cannons  clevers etc   its in our nature  Like Tigers and other Wild animals  do for their "survival"   if we didn't know how to hunt we wouldn't of made it out of the "cave man"  nor know how to use the  Technology today  if we didn't learn it  from some one  or Something   But their is no "Accurate" proof to   have those Said parents to blame it on  Shooting companies  Like Treyarch bungie  343 industries  Ea  bioware T2k  Capcom etc  it was their Childs stupidity that caused it and them selves for not "Teaching" their child from right and wrong   on top of them  "abusing" their child as well  gauranteed 1-5 shootings  that  Child Was abused by his or her parent  their is Facts behind this Do the research.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

ToaOrka wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

RetakeME3 was more of a fad than an actual movement, and with half of the "movement" being made of people with very small attention spans, well, it's only natural LolExtendedCut killed it. Not like it was going to do any good had it stayed at full strength, but I digress.

And here I thought it was the ending lovers that had the small attention spans (silly me).  You should make a thread explaining the endings so everyone can drink from the cup of your superior wisdom.

Can you explain to me where I said I liked the endings?

As soon as you explain where I said you said you liked the endings.  Logic served fresh.

You making a thread about the endings is good for the movement.  And since you apparently feel a better ending is in order, you do have superior wisdom.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 23 avril 2012 - 11:08 .

[ToaOrka]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

RetakeME3 was more of a fad than an actual movement, and with half of the "movement" being made of people with very small attention spans, well, it's only natural LolExtendedCut killed it. Not like it was going to do any good had it stayed at full strength, but I digress.

And here I thought it was the ending lovers that had the small attention spans (silly me).  You should make a thread explaining the endings so everyone can drink from the cup of your superior wisdom.

Can you explain to me where I said I liked the endings?

As soon as you explain where I said you said you liked the endings.  Logic served fresh.

I don't know what you think you were implying, but that's the problem with implying things: people can arrive to their own conclusions, not the ones you were hoping them to arrive at. By asking me to explain the endings, you're pretty much saying that I believe the endings are explainable, implying I don't totally hate them. Which I do, in case you hadn't picked up on that little fact.

[OlympusMons423]

Movement tend to slip into taking the low road, or just fade. Many post here against the ending were pretty smart stuff. They stated very clearly and logically what was so wrong with it. In general the people who complained about the people complaining never could get half as close as to why the ending worked for them IMO. Many times they sound like company goons out to muzzle the critics more them actual people who played the game.... Maybe my opinion is tainted too

In any case.... if people are truly this upset about the ending, and there must be tons of them because this ending is making NEWS all over the place...then whether a specific movement dies or not, does not mean the issue is gone. It is there underground, and unseen...like a cancer for BioWare right now. They better think well about what is needed to treat it.

I love this series. I most likely will buy any downloads. But if someone asks me if they should get this game down the road, any one in the series... from now on I can not mention what was done so wonderfully without mentioning strongly, how screwed up the ending was. Think about that. That ending, movement or not, has made that this games reality. You go to the trouble of doing great work, you damn right well better follow that through to the end. They made a bad business decision as well here by rushing it, allowing only one set of eyes on the ending, whatever caused it to happen...Better ending, they would still have had multi player, and all the buzz would be about how amazing the game was from beginning to end. No extended cut required, just work on those future DL which would sell like hot cakes.... maybe so well that they would come up with more DLs. As they say penny wise and dollar stupid.

Modifié par OlympusMons423, 23 avril 2012 - 11:09 .

[Eire Icon]

Everytime I see the word "Movement" being mentioned I cringe.

The rage that was on these forums over the last few weeks was never sustainable, people were always going to calm down (Thank God)

Bioware have committed to an extended and clarified ending. Many will not be happy with this but its all thats going to be done on the ending issue. People may or may not accept that but they're gonna have to learn to live with it

At the end of the day most gamers are fickle, always have always will be

[TsubakiYayoi]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

TsubakiYayoi wrote...

As long as Im still complaining about the "endings" the movement isn´t dead

If the movement is based on complaints regarding the "endings" then the movement will never die.

Its based on a lie that your choises mattered and we wasn´t supposed to get an A, B or C ending. Its sad that the 3500+ pages thread is more like an private chat for some kids by know.
It doesn´t matter I´ll still defend my amazon review and will write 5star no complainers why the hell they like the ending"s".
Bioware/EA just ripped my heart out with this BS ending"s" and it will take time to come over it. I played those games to much to not care.

Modifié par TsubakiYayoi, 23 avril 2012 - 11:10 .

[Sarah Knight]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
Not True  Game companies themselves Dont make Change till their next game no matter how badly  Any one Demands it   and honestly comparing them to a Car Company ? that their is pointless view right their  Games Do not get people "killed" over  one or more Flaws that the "cry babies"  complain about  Look at fallout   and a few others that had bad Reviews?  they didn't change till their NEXT  TITLE RELEASE  which is more than likely  What bioware is going to do and honestly i dont see why you guys cry and 13itch  about every little thing  it wasn't intended  for pleasing no Games are  Their intended to keep our minds off of troubles and enjoy the game For what it is  So what ME3  had things you babies dont like  its just a game as i said just to keep your mind off of your PAST or anything that UPSETS OR PISSES YOU OFF. So please Do  us a favor for those  who actually "LIKE OR LOVE IT" a favor   Grow a pair of Balls and  dont by another Game from bioware  or Keep silent and take ME3 for what it is.

its your Fault For not   listening to player revies Not bioware   nor the Press   and other websites that gave it a good rating "Which i agree with"   dont Get me wrong   the game is good but you have to see it from the perspective Mass effect never had MP  They Took their time  Making it for those that DEMANDED   MP  based games And Guess what?  They Did  so   on Me3  Which is why they probably didn't "fill the blanks plotholes" or W/e you guys are Crying about. that or Some douche bag  Leaked it and they decided to change it  as i keep Saying on OP Raptor Op Goliath  and fortress  im tired of  defending you guys that Cry and Moan to bioware  Just because you see flaws and  constantly Anger those who like the game .

You seem to have gotten things confused. The car thing was simply an example... but the same elements (a company selling a product/service that they screwed up with while others were able to look past the faults).

If it was a "every little thing," trust me, the backlash would not have been this extreme.  The backlash is there because Bioware seriously dropped the ball. 

This also has nothing to do with whether you personally enjoyed the game as a whole or otherwise (I did).  Not the point.

I'll follow your logic for a second though:

It's your fault for not being aware that people would be complaining/bashing the endings, not the people complaining/bashing the ending themselves.  Just because you don't see flaws and constantly Anger those who don't like the game.

So please Do  us a favor for those  who actually "DISLIKE OR HATE IT" a favor   Grow a pair of Balls and dont read another post from those posters  or Keep silent and take the ME3 complaints for what they are.

See what I did thar?

You forgot to point out the flawed mentioning Sarah did of it being the consumers fault "not to listen to Bioware" about the game prior to purchase, as evidence shows Bioware were clearly producing misleading info about their product.

... you're absolutely right.


//Was that so hard Bioware?

i dont believe it was biowares Fault  i'm assuming they needed either budget Cuts OR  some one Released it "without knowing or did know what would happen"  Ex " PR you know that  this Said Game has   kissing romance and Shooting? "reporter" oh yea we did but is their something new that may get your fans into buying this said game?
PR Yes  their is We have Allot more   Scenes more dialogue than any games ending in history it will be a blockbuster" Reporter" oh really now? we'll just add this to our reports thank you"  PR your welcome"

Fans look on websites and thinks its in game "game releases" "fans disapointed  and flames at said  company" 
"companie denies it and then fires the Leaking PR and to keep a tighter leash on Said game"  its how i think might of happened with  the PR Department they could of  Leaked it and got fired for it well the one who "reported"   what was in this game  and bioware doesn't know how to adress it to us incase this does happen sure their still would be pissed off people but they wouldn't of had this much damage to their reputation   unlike EA  that constantly  lies and decieves us which is why their in So Deep in their butt puckers   that their losing ALLOT of Revenue.. but What EA should know  is


IF YOU LISTEN TO YOUR FANS AND EXPLAIN TO US IN DETAIL OR A SMALL ONE FOR THAT MATTER YOUD NOT LOSE YOUR REVENUE 
AND HAVE A GOOD SIZE CASH IN YOUR LITTLE POCKETS TO IMPROVE YOUR CRAPPY SERVERS
just saying any way


but its what i see on my perspective Allot of popular companies hit  a bad patch and Rep  but they recovered making up for their mistakes and are Still making money to this day and improving their work space and having "more" workers for more  deverse projects.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

ToaOrka wrote...
I don't know what you think you were implying, but that's the problem with implying things: people can arrive to their own conclusions, not the ones you were hoping them to arrive at. By asking me to explain the endings, you're pretty much saying that I believe the endings are explainable, implying I don't totally hate them. Which I do, in case you hadn't picked up on that little fact.

I made an extended DLC of my post.  Hopefully it clarifies what I mean better.

I think you should make a post about the endings because Bioware said they're "listening," if too much talk leaves the subject of the endings, then we'd never really know what they're listening to would we?

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 23 avril 2012 - 11:23 .

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Sarah Knight wrote...

i dont believe it was biowares Fault  i'm assuming they needed either budget Cuts OR  some one Released it "without knowing or did know what would happen"  Ex " PR you know that  this Said Game has   kissing romance and Shooting? "reporter" oh yea we did but is their something new that may get your fans into buying this said game?
PR Yes  their is We have Allot more   Scenes more dialogue than any games ending in history it will be a blockbuster" Reporter" oh really now? we'll just add this to our reports thank you"  PR your welcome"

Fans look on websites and thinks its in game "game releases" "fans disapointed  and flames at said  company" 
"companie denies it and then fires the Leaking PR and to keep a tighter leash on Said game"  its how i think might of happened with  the PR Department they could of  Leaked it and got fired for it well the one who "reported"   what was in this game  and bioware doesn't know how to adress it to us incase this does happen sure their still would be pissed off people but they wouldn't of had this much damage to their reputation   unlike EA  that constantly  lies and decieves us which is why their in So Deep in their butt puckers   that their losing ALLOT of Revenue.. but What EA should know  is


IF YOU LISTEN TO YOUR FANS AND EXPLAIN TO US IN DETAIL OR A SMALL ONE FOR THAT MATTER YOUD NOT LOSE YOUR REVENUE 
AND HAVE A GOOD SIZE CASH IN YOUR LITTLE POCKETS TO IMPROVE YOUR CRAPPY SERVERS
just saying any way


but its what i see on my perspective Allot of popular companies hit  a bad patch and Rep  but they recovered making up for their mistakes and are Still making money to this day and improving their work space and having "more" workers for more  deverse projects.

It is clear and away Bioware's fault.  Even with budget cuts, the ending could've made logical sense... and it does not.  That's the fault of Bioware, and only Bioware.  They have a chance to use a new budget (DLC) to make the ending better/closer to how they want (if you're implying that the ending is not how Bioware wanted it to be).  They should take it... and fans should push them to take it.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 23 avril 2012 - 11:17 .