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[Lewie]

I get that the movement is quiet but it doesn't change the fact that the vast gamers i know are done with ME3. I also don't like the tone of this 'community has sense now' comments are really condesending and back handed. To 'clarify' i didn't join the movement i have just tried to make a more conclusive decision over time, rather than having a knee jerk reaction so i can be so cool on the BSN.

(****)

Modifié par louise101, 24 avril 2012 - 03:45 .

[Yajuu Omoi]

slyguy200 wrote...

Trolls!^

Thank the whole uproar for both of the free DLC's. Resurgence would have been $4, and EC too.
Your welcome. 

No, resurgance was PLANNED from day one to be free. and the EC isn't even needed. YOU are welcome.

[AJRimmsey]

Gatt9 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

No,  EA does not have "Artistic integrity",  they threw that out when they misrepresented their product.  Nevermind the fact that "Artistic integrity" is a red herring thrown out to try and put a PR spin on a bad ending,  since they weren't terribly worried about "Artistic integrity" when they implemented Online Pass in such a way as to impact the narrative.

Ah yes, "artistic integrity was a red herring". We have dismissed that claim.

(See what I did thar?)

Artistic integrity was never cited as a defence of anything. It was cited as a reason for not changing the endings.

Edit:  Nevermind,  the whole anti-retake organization is working this thread hard.  Not worth my time to sit here and deal with the multiple-logins anymore.

Edit 2:  You guys could make it a little harder.  I can already tell which accounts are owned by the same persons.

quick,our numbers are dwindling.... invent an anti retake movement,then add a multi account rumour....people will believe if we state it often enough,it worked with all the other schemes.

:D:D:D:D

[Emzamination]

Gatt9 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

No,  EA does not have "Artistic integrity",  they threw that out when they misrepresented their product.  Nevermind the fact that "Artistic integrity" is a red herring thrown out to try and put a PR spin on a bad ending,  since they weren't terribly worried about "Artistic integrity" when they implemented Online Pass in such a way as to impact the narrative.

Ah yes, "artistic integrity was a red herring". We have dismissed that claim.

(See what I did thar?)

Artistic integrity was never cited as a defence of anything. It was cited as a reason for not changing the endings.

Edit:  Nevermind,  the whole anti-retake organization is working this thread hard.  Not worth my time to sit here and deal with the multiple-logins anymore.

Edit 2:  You guys could make it a little harder.  I can already tell which accounts are owned by the same persons.

Yeah, everyone's buying multiple copies of the same game to register just so they can win an argument with you.You're funny, Boy.

[jtrook]

The Witcher 2

[Father_Jerusalem]

Gatt9 wrote...


Edit:  Nevermind,  the whole anti-retake organization is working this thread hard.  Not worth my time to sit here and deal with the multiple-logins anymore.

Edit 2:  You guys could make it a little harder.  I can already tell which accounts are owned by the same persons.

Really?

Prove it.

Which other accounts are "owned" by me. 

[Homebound]

You guys are free to do what you want and feel what you want about the game and ending.

As for fans like me, we've simply stopped caring about Mass Effect. It's a footnote that will be forgotten, collecting dust at a gamestop bargain bin.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Emzamination wrote...
They got an extended cut at the cost of dignity, hardly a victory worth bragging about.Cup cake protest? bbb? Lawsuites? Attacking Ea's stock? donating to charity not out of the goodnes of ones own heart but for a new video game ending? Canceling subscriptions to ToR while writting "I'll be back when we get a new me3 ending", not to mention Tor was created by a completely different bioware team. Bioware still has its Artistic "INTEGRITY".

At the cost of dignity?  It didn't cost dignity, just their 2cs and outrage (plus a brief display of their wallet size).  And what you just listed, are the most civil ways to protest/speak out for change while actually getting attention that can make a difference.

Bioware lost a great deal of their Artistic "INTEGRITY" when they released that ending in the state that it was in (I know that I won't be buying a Bioware game at full price any time soon.. and others that don't even bother saying anything).  They can regain their full integrity back by fixing it.  They owe it to themselves to do that... and they have the opportunity to do it... a very rare thing.

Bioware's reputation and standard for excellence took a large hit with this... no two ways about it.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...
You want a REAL result?? Be a REAL person! Use REAL common sense! keep your integrity and simply give the well deserved feedback that they ASK for!! THey ASK us how we feel about a game, answer that question, and leave it at that, they will prove on their own what kind o fcompany they are.

One can't prove who they are when they're being told what to do.

Oh they're hearing about how players feel about the game.... believe me.

But the fact that they released an ending as unpolished as what they did speaks volumes about "who they are".. or more accurately "who they're becoming."

A wake up call is in order.  Hopefully they heard it.  The industry does not need to go down a direction where endings are unfinished/lopped off to cut costs... and certainly not to try and defend such a large quality drop behind the guise of "Artistic Integrity."

In the press, I get that, but to fans who already know and saw what they got (and already paid money for it I might add)... you can't tell them it's an ending to be proud of... not yet.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 24 avril 2012 - 10:42 .

[DannieCraft]

Personally I am happy with the Extended Cut announcement.

But also, I have been sick and tired of reading the same thing over and over (and over) again about the ending.
I wrote my opinions in a few threads, and it seems to me that BioWare listened. An extended cut is just what I wanted, or rather "more closure", making it a real ending to the trilogy. Furthermore many felt that their decisions in the end didn't matter, but I think that the EC will deal with that, showing us the epilogue of our choices.

I don't every think everyone will be pleased with the solution, but I think I will be satisfied enough.

Edit: To me, "Holding the line" is to stay firm in my opinions. I don't have to write it in every single thread to know what I think about the current ending. 

Modifié par DannieCraft, 24 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[WaffleCrab]

Hellbound555 wrote...

You guys are free to do what you want and feel what you want about the game and ending.

As for fans like me, we've simply stopped caring about Mass Effect. It's a footnote that will be forgotten, collecting dust at a gamestop bargain bin.

well put.

[WaffleCrab]

DannieCraft wrote...

Personally I am happy with the Extended Cut announcement.

But also, I have been sick and tired of reading the same thing over and over (and over) again about the ending.
I wrote my opinions in a few threads, and it seems to me that BioWare listened. An extended cut is just what I wanted, or rather "more closure", making it a real ending to the trilogy. Furthermore many felt that their decisions in the end didn't matter, but I think that the EC will deal with that, showing us the epilogue of our choices.

I don't every think everyone will be pleased with the solution, but I think I will be satisfied enough.

Edit: To me, "Holding the line" is to stay firm in my opinions. I don't have to write it in every single thread to know what I think about the current ending. 

well problem with getting closure. will you get closure from B and C side story lines. as they cant do any plot hole fixing for the main story line, w/o changing the ending drasticly. I think its time to admit that what we have now is what we get. The best thing we can now do, is make a choice of either buying BW games in the future or not, I for one plan on waiting for atleast 1-2 weeks from release for the extra cheap retail versions and to make sure i know the next BW game is gonna be a bust or not.

Edit: 

i just came back home from trying to sell my extra copy of ME3(got one as a gift since the person giving the gift did not know i already got one) still sealed in plastic. funny thing is, i cant get it sold xD not even for 7€...
the retailers who are selling used games got so many returned mass effect 3 copies, atleast here in southern finland, i cant get this game sold anywhere in atleast 80km radius...

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 24 avril 2012 - 12:25 .

[durasteel]

I think at this point there is nothing left to do but to wait and see how much polish BioWare can slap onto this turd. If the Extended Cut is actually good, we'll be happy. If it just adds clarification to help us idiots understand the ending as art, then our habituated pre-order and day-one purchase of BioWare games turns into a wait-and-see policy, and we start thinking of picking up BioWare games when they drop below $30 for the complete package that includes the DLC.

We've moved from discussion to reaction. There isn't much left to be said, so we just wait. The ball is entirely in BioWare's court.

[UnstableMongoose]

It's either a shell of its former self, or dead. The most visible and vocal segments of it which remain are trolls and fools with Retake sig banners caught in a perpetual flame war with trolls and fools that have "Shepard deserves better fans" sig banners.

A great battle was fought here, and many were slaughtered in the name of cause or king. Now all that remains are the buzzards picking over the corpses.

[Emzamination]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

At the cost of dignity?  It didn't
cost dignity, just their 2cs and outrage (plus a brief display of their
wallet size).  And what you just listed, are the most civil ways to
protest/speak out for change while actually getting attention that can
make a difference.

Bioware lost a great deal of their Artistic
"INTEGRITY" when they released that ending in the state that it was in
(I know that I won't be buying a Bioware game at full price any time
soon.. and others that don't even bother saying anything).  They can
regain their full integrity back by fixing it.  They owe it to
themselves to do that... and they have the opportunity to do it... a
very rare thing.

Bioware's reputation and standard for excellence took a large hit with this... no two ways about it.

You fail to mention just how bioware lost its integrity.

slyguy200 wrote...

This is the no spoiler section, registered copies aren't an issue.

Shhh, my statement flew right over "your" head.

[TheLostGenius]

It was silly and pointless to begin with. No reason to drag out something to make a fool of yourself.

[AlanC9]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...
Edit:  Nevermind,  the whole anti-retake organization is working this thread hard.  Not worth my time to sit here and deal with the multiple-logins anymore.

Edit 2:  You guys could make it a little harder.  I can already tell which accounts are owned by the same persons.

quick,our numbers are dwindling.... invent an anti retake movement,then add a multi account rumour....people will believe if we state it often enough,it worked with all the other schemes.

:D:D:D:D

I wouldn't mind him making that charge if he'd actually name names. I'm not sure who are supposed to be the originals and who are supposed to be the sock puppets.

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 avril 2012 - 06:50 .

[SalsaDMA]

slyguy200 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

No,  EA does not have "Artistic integrity",  they threw that out when they misrepresented their product.  Nevermind the fact that "Artistic integrity" is a red herring thrown out to try and put a PR spin on a bad ending,  since they weren't terribly worried about "Artistic integrity" when they implemented Online Pass in such a way as to impact the narrative.

Ah yes, "artistic integrity was a red herring". We have dismissed that claim.

(See what I did thar?)

Artistic integrity was never cited as a defence of anything. It was cited as a reason for not changing the endings.

Edit:  Nevermind,  the whole anti-retake organization is working this thread hard.  Not worth my time to sit here and deal with the multiple-logins anymore.

Edit 2:  You guys could make it a little harder.  I can already tell which accounts are owned by the same persons.

Yeah, everyone's buying multiple copies of the same game to register just so they can win an argument with you.You're funny, Boy.

This is the no spoiler section, registered copies aren't an issue.

Not to mention, registering "free" copies wouldn't be an issue for dedicated EA 5th coloumn forum-marketeers.

(and the next sentence isn't directed to Sly, but to certain others:) No, you people can stop pretending these kind of things doesn't happen. It's 'regular business' to do these kind of things, and is what I would even call on the 'clean' side of some of the ways EA do business.

[Chris Priestly]

You dropped your tinfoil hat, Salsa.

[rolson00]

Chris Priestly wrote...

You dropped your tinfoil hat, Salsa.

is it wrong i did the most evil laugh iv ever done to this?

[AlanC9]

SalsaDMA wrote...
Not to mention, registering "free" copies wouldn't be an issue for dedicated EA 5th coloumn forum-marketeers.

You mean I could get Bio games for free just for working for them on the boards?

Why haven't I been recruited yet?

[Bronze65]

One can only hope.

[Father_Jerusalem]

AlanC9 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...
Not to mention, registering "free" copies wouldn't be an issue for dedicated EA 5th coloumn forum-marketeers.

You mean I could get Bio games for free just for working for them on the boards?

Why haven't I been recruited yet?

No ****ing kidding. Where's my free stuff, BioWare? Come to think of it, since I'm always getting accused of being paid PR, where's my paychecks?

And to think, I was doing this for free on my own time all along. LE SIGH.