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[The Spamming Troll]

gavccu wrote...

Maybe more and more people are coming around and 'getting' the ending. As anticipated by Bioware the ending has become a massive talking point, spawning many analyses and interpretations online and between friends.

I can understand many peoples frustration with some of the perceived inconsistencies prevalent in the final cutscenes, but the Extended Cut i am sure will deal with these; whilst maintaing the overall emotional tone of the ending(s) which for me is the it's greatest triumph.

oh, so can you explain the ending to me? if it takes too much room in here feel free to PM me your in depth analysis of what exactly happened there.

also, i picked synthesis.

.....ill be waiting.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 19 avril 2012 - 11:15 .

[Midz]

It is an industry and as such will follow the market as to where sales are .

Wether I or you like it sales are now mainly in phone apps and the money at much cheaper less intensive investment .

Even on consoles sales types are indicitive .

Then look at region sales where in the world thus type /design are most lucrative it is not where I think most believe it to be .

The numbers of sales per region per platform are easily available from search . look and make your own analysis .

With X box PSP etc PC became a niche now with phone app tablets that is being extended .

Game companies try to adapt to survive if they do not they die or become a small fringe .

Many talk of the market and talk of falling sales but fail to see that the market has and is changing .

The same screams were seen all they need is listen to the fans going back to boardgames with the same failure to see the market correctly.

and apology my poor english.

[ReshyShira]

It will turn into an inferno if the DLC isn't up to snuff.

[Doctoglethorpe]

People got tired of beating their head against a wall. Concussions tend to distract people.

[hippanda]

They're in the campaign discussion/spoilers forum.

[Mars8309]

Regardless if the the top people of the RME movement is in the car accident More people are coming to this board in disguest of the endings provided.
the EC is Bioware seeking a common ground but still not listening to the fans and gamers.
The movement won't die as long as people see the A,B,C ending being a 1 ending leaving more question of Did you really take back Earth or not at all?

[Syfoor]

its dead cos everyone took the "extended cut" bait. probably another lie, this time to shut up annoyed fan spam, cos they already got the money. other than that, new DLC is quite fun ;]

[Yajuu Omoi]

It died once they realized how stupid they were being. They didn't design the game, therefor they have no right to complain about how it went.

And don't say "i spent money so i can complain." you CHOSE to spend your money on a game THEY designed. Simple as that.

[Sero303]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

It died once they realized how stupid they were being. They didn't design the game, therefor they have no right to complain about how it went.

And don't say "i spent money so i can complain." you CHOSE to spend your money on a game THEY designed. Simple as that.

By that logic, you sir cannot ever complain about:

A movie you watched, in theater or on tv
A show you watched,
A sports game, your team the other team,
Hell a kids little league game!
Rap, country, hiphop, jazz etc etc etc any music, ever.
You can't even complain when you buy a freaking happy meal from Mcdonalds and they screw up the order! you paid for it! They made it!
By that logic you CHOSE to watch or listen to something THEY made, played, sang or did while you sat there and did nothing.

Don't get me wrong, you make a valid point, we ALL chose to spend money on the game, regardless of our opinion on the game itself. Just please don't be a hypocryte and pretend you're somehow better than everybody else. It only makes you look all the more foolish.

[CELL55]

Just because something isn't said every single day doesn't mean it's dead.

[HenchxNarf]

Lynata wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...
I recognize a great loss of supporting threads about it

Thank the Maker. Perhaps the forum will slowly become a platform to discuss Mass Effect as a whole again.

Thank goodness for that.

[xi ShadowWolf x]

Its in Cryo till this, "Extended Cut DLC" Comes out, haha. I'm pretty sure people will explode about it again when its out. lol.

[ShadowHawk141]

Sero303 wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

It died once they realized how stupid they were being. They didn't design the game, therefor they have no right to complain about how it went.

And don't say "i spent money so i can complain." you CHOSE to spend your money on a game THEY designed. Simple as that.

By that logic, you sir cannot ever complain about:

A movie you watched, in theater or on tv
A show you watched,
A sports game, your team the other team,
Hell a kids little league game!
Rap, country, hiphop, jazz etc etc etc any music, ever.
You can't even complain when you buy a freaking happy meal from Mcdonalds and they screw up the order! you paid for it! They made it!
By that logic you CHOSE to watch or listen to something THEY made, played, sang or did while you sat there and did nothing.

Don't get me wrong, you make a valid point, we ALL chose to spend money on the game, regardless of our opinion on the game itself. Just please don't be a hypocryte and pretend you're somehow better than everybody else. It only makes you look all the more foolish.

And to top it off, Bioware promised a whole other game then what we got.
I spend money on a game based on their promises, just afterwards I find out that it wasn't at all what they promised. !!!

[xsdob]

CELL55 wrote...

Just because something isn't said every single day doesn't mean it's dead.

In real life you would be right, but this is the internet, which functions on an entirly different set of logic and laws of physics.

In the interent, if you don't turn something into a meme that people say over and over and enjoy doing so, it's dead and all who do it are just using a dead meme. This unfortunatly applies to everything on the internet, serious issue or bull**** distraction, all are equal here online, and all must survive as a meme or be forgotten.

[Menethra]

No it's not, i can understand some people might look at it that way but it's really not.

There's still plans in motion, the facebook page is silent but only the admin and things such as retake are not about 1 person updating some website it's about the people that continue to back it. The posters on the facebook page are active and continue to come up with idea's.

But it's not surprising to see some people heralding the movement as being dead.

Edit: As some people mentioned, yes some people are waiting for the extended cut before deciding what to do

Modifié par Menethra, 20 avril 2012 - 02:23 .

[TheOptimist]

Mr Massakka wrote...

I recognize a great loss of supporting signatures and threads about it, the official Facebook page got completely silent, fundraisers are closed, cupcake action lays some time in the past...

What about "Hold the Line"?
Did the movement got finally killed with the Extended Cut or what?

Could be we're doing what was requested of us, and waiting to see what's IN the Extended Cut before making rash judgements and deciding on the next step.  But that would mean quite a few of us are reasonable, rationale fans who just want our concerns addressed, and that can't be right...

[AlanC9]

iakus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

What would Retake think was an acceptable EC? Or an unacceptable one?

Most likely a complete rewrite of the ending from Starchild on.  A sentiment I totally sympathize with, but is probably unfeasible.  And not just from an "artistic integrity" point of view.

At this point all we can really do is sit back and hope Bioware can MacGyver an ending most of us can be satisfied with out of the materials given.  Not optimistic, but maybe I'll be surprised.

Well, yeah. The question still is, what would it take to make folks satisfied? Retake never did seem to have a coherent critique -- anyone with any complaint was part of the movement.

Modifié par AlanC9, 20 avril 2012 - 02:29 .

[Commander Joshua]

 There is no point in asking for a new ending anymore. They have already stated they will not so what's the point.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Well they achieved their goal. Bioware are releasing the extended cut that will provide more closure.

...totally what the movement wanted:?

Revisiting the ending gives enough possibility that the writers will notice all the plot holes and inconsistencies that the ending had... so everyone's most likely in "wait and see" mode.

Just how good are Bioware's writers?  Any decent "professional" writer will certainly notice that they have holes to plug up during their revisit of the ending.  We'll soon see...

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 20 avril 2012 - 02:28 .

[daecath]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

It died once they realized how stupid they were being. They didn't design the game, therefor they have no right to complain about how it went.

And don't say "i spent money so i can complain." you CHOSE to spend your money on a game THEY designed. Simple as that.

So, if you go into a store and buy a big screen tv, and they give you a refrigerator, you're going to take it home and watch it? If you go to a gourmet resteraunt and order lobster, and they serve you cockroaches, you'll eat them?

And what right do you have to complain about the people complaining? What right do you have to call me stupid? I've played the game, I've seen the endings, I've researched and thought about the issues. I've read arguments on both sides of the issue, and I've come to a conclusion which I can support with facts and with citations from various sources that don't even have anything specifically to do with this series. I can show how they violated established rules of writing good literature. I can show how they broke promises about what it would be. I can show how many plot points violate their own rules that they've established for their universe they created.

That's what gives me the right to complain, so I ask again, what right do you have to call me stupid? Do you know me? Have you researched my posts? Have you checked into my educational background? Talked to those that know me? Done any sort of research whatsoever? Or have you simply made a judgement call based on the fact that I have a differing opinion than you?

[Menethra]

Commander Joshua wrote...

 There is no point in asking for a new ending anymore. They have already stated they will not so what's the point.

They also said that there wouldn't be any changes yet they came out with the EC. The initial responce from any company is to always deny there's a problem and attempt to sweep it under the rug this practise is not just related to bioware it extends to pretty much all companies. By saying there's  no point you're basically settling for the supbar ending and eating up the false statements they made prior to the release of ME3 and the moment you accept that the more often the company will do it knowing the fans will just buy it anyway.

Modifié par Menethra, 20 avril 2012 - 02:32 .

[QwertyMusicMan]

We're getting Extended Cut. Bioware is listening. They're working to improve ME3. What else could we want?

[Menethra]

QwertyMusicMan wrote...

We're getting Extended Cut. Bioware is listening. They're working to improve ME3. What else could we want?

The extended cut keeps the current endings, it keeps the god child and it keeps the ABC style choices, this was part of the problem for alot of people. A brand new character shoved in our face at the final hurdle then it begins to dictate to us.

Mass effect has always been heralded as a game in which choices matter, infact they recently said that again on the PR poster they came up with, what choices were we allowed at the end? None other than the ABC nonsence, our past choices dating back to ME1 had no effect what so ever in the ending.

[Rjames112]

TheOptimist wrote...
Could be we're doing what was requested of us, and waiting to see what's IN the Extended Cut before making rash judgements and deciding on the next step.  But that would mean quite a few of us are reasonable, rationale fans who just want our concerns addressed, and that can't be right...

Lies and slander! 

The fanboys shout the loudest and that's the brush we are all painted with.