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[RyanSoup]

The whole notion that Shepard has the time to go out and find all of this useless crap is ridiculous. Especially when you realize that it only really counts toward your ultimate goal of finishing the literal deus ex machina.

[Manimal]

Still love this.

[fluttersnipe]

Game is great so far, but I hate the freaking side quest idea. I'm not helping people so much as I'm eavesdropping and happening to find the crap they want. I didn't even realize I had half the quests I do until I actually looked in the journal...

[Versus Omnibus]

I find the eavesdropping quests that improve the Citadel Defense Force to be more of a hinder then fun. I had to revisit the same area multiple times just to improve my War Assets when I could just walk up to the people and ask if they needed help. Next time Bioware, just let me talk to people as opposed to standing there all creepy like.

[frostajulie]

After the ending, the journal and then the autodialogue this really left a foul taste in my mouth for the 3rd game. It was half assed and lazy and really felt like they weren't even trying to make an interesting game anymore. I missed the days when you got to talk to people like the guy on the presidium in ME1 whose brother you find dead, or the crime boss in ME1 or the couple argueing about gene sequencing, thats the way a good sidequest should be done thats quality thats a good product that delivers the immersion a fan of rpg wants. me3 was the equivelent of smearing poop on the wall and calling it art when it came to these lazy eavesdropping fetch quests.

[Bleachrude]

I'm not sure it's bad as people make it out to be...

The standard quest in RPGs has you going up to random people with question marks and then doing a little dialogue conversation to get the quest....

Take the quest with ambassador osoba. To get the quest, it follows the standard quest where you go in and ask the guy what's the problem but think about this for a moment.

You see a guy on a phone and then you approach him and ask him "what's wrong?". You're already eavesdropping so the idea that's the other method is worse makes no sense...

This though I still find superior to the "walk up to random person and get sidequest" that is the default method of giving quests...

[Bendigoe]

I think I'd rather have Interacted with the NPC's than standing awkwardly with nothing to do In the meanwhile.
I don't understand why these eavesdropping side-quests couldn't be done In the ME1 face-to-face style, like every quest you get on the Citadel and the rest of the hub worlds (In the original game).
Interacting with the character face-to-face lets me get to know them therefore helping me better decide whether or not I even want to do this fetch quest for them. 

They can make me want to do it!

Modifié par Bendigoe, 01 avril 2013 - 12:49 .

[Wolfva2]

As Chris Priestly stated much earlier in the thread, there were plenty of traditional quests in the game. These were put in to reward those of us who actually wander around and explore.

Personally, I liked them. Then again, I've had a few in real life. Incidents where I'll find an object (once it was a bag of money orders), then a little later I'll see someone talking to a clerk about the lost item, or looking frantically on the ground. It's always a pleasure to ask them what they lost, then hand it to them. Especially the old lady who had dropped the money orders; several hundred dollars worth for her monthly bills.

[Wiggly]

I liked the eavesdropping quests

[Nightdragon8]

the only reason its "disapointing" is for those RPG purists who must always talk to someone about there problems.

honestly just for that one person, make it so the dialoge goes like this

Shep: I couldn't help to overhear your conversation, I would li-
Person In Trouble: What? Hang on.... excuse me your interupting a very important converstaion, plz go away.
Shep: Para: Yea I know I would like to help out. Ren: Fine I wont help you out.
PIT: Para: blah blah blah if you please. Ren: Didn't want your help anyway now buzz off

Would that have that really been better? Or would it have been better to say overhear the convo and then suddenly show up with the parts needed. Its the same Para, Ren idea, with a Para you go out find the parts and give them to the guy, While the Ren just ignore it.

[Dr.Freeman]

Yeah, saving refugees from Dekuuna by probing the planet wasn't disappointing at all...

[MassStorm]

I so miss ME1 sidequests.

[nani7788]

That was awesome.

[Jebel Krong]

a lot of people seem to want to play "shep the busy-body" instead of shepard the badass spectre.

personally i thought the more natural way of picking up the more minor side-quests was better than randomly talking to non-important strangers whilst you're trying to stop the reapers.

[Loaderini]

I liked eavesdropping quests. It is a quick and simple system made for quick and simple quests. No need to have a whole conversation with scenes and an investigation just to learn that I need to find some fuel or repair tools.

[snakeboy86]

It sounds like you guys wanted an Rpg akin to fallout...

I'm glad Mass effect is nothing like it

[frostajulie]

snakeboy86 wrote...

It sounds like you guys wanted an Rpg akin to fallout...

I'm glad Mass effect is nothing like it

Then your not listening we wanted an RPG with elements akin to ME1.

[mtmercydave09]

First playthrough I didn't mind the eavedropping quests. Now I just skip through them.

[Asch Lavigne]

I never do them in any of the games. I think they're a horrible idea. I'm sorry, I don't care if you're the President, you don't just go up to people and butt into their conversations.

[snakeboy86]

frostajulie wrote...

snakeboy86 wrote...

It sounds like you guys wanted an Rpg akin to fallout...

I'm glad Mass effect is nothing like it

Then your not listening we wanted an RPG with elements akin to ME1.

uh-huh, and fallout 3 is nothing like ME1

i love ME1 but I'm glad it's not the same old song and dance with RPGs where you have micromanage every last thing and worry about hit points,inventory,  weight limits ETC, etc, and I did listen I've been listening to the constant barrage of mass effect being turned into Cod just for having guns<_<, 

[Bleachrude]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

I never do them in any of the games. I think they're a horrible idea. I'm sorry, I don't care if you're the President, you don't just go up to people and butt into their conversations.

Er..but you kind of do that in regular quests.

I mean, you don't really think that it's natural that people are just STANDING there waiting for you to approach them so that they can start up a conversation and give you a quest?

[thehomeworld]

Yeah it was basically like that OP. I stili think planet scanning is the worse fallowed by stalker shep getting the quest then still planet scanning to get the item for the npc.

Beyond the one guy who was trying to barter prothean ruin locations for food with that guard all other npcs should've been freaked out when the thing they were complaining, obsessing, or fretting over was resolved by someguy who says " Go to this docking bay and get the item you seek" I mean really that's just code for Shanghaiing the npcs and forcing them to work on the ship.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 02 avril 2013 - 05:29 .

[thehomeworld]

snakeboy86 wrote...

It sounds like you guys wanted an Rpg akin to fallout...

I'm glad Mass effect is nothing like it

It would be great if some or most of the npcs did approch you once they figured out you where the hero of the game, a few if you have to talk to them could state during the conversation I need you to help me with something like Benezia gives you the next quest objective or you could have to pry it out of them like the smuggling farmer on Feros a mix of all three would work just fine for ME4 no ease dropping unless its on mission and thats how you're going to get to your next objective like how Adam ease drops on Dragon lady in China and figures out he should probably go to Canda to see that all nighter reporter chic but those ease dropping to get the intel should be rare.

It's more natural if they call you out, flag you down, call your comm or just walk up to you and demand you pay attention to their needs so they can give you the quest rather then you being a stalker like ME3 did that was horrible quest giving.

[Wolfva2]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

I never do them in any of the games. I think they're a horrible idea. I'm sorry, I don't care if you're the President, you don't just go up to people and butt into their conversations.

Whatabout Kanye West?

Ok, hold on, I'ma gonna let you finish, but just cuz u t'ink it's a bad idea doan mean ever'ne else duz to, ya know whad I'm sayin dawg?

Ugh, that's probably the worst Kanye West routine in the history of paradies.   From a realism point of view, the quests are a strange idea.  Heck, I'm trying to gather a team to take on sentient kilometer long cockroaches from space.  I don't have time to find your lost picture.  Some salarian on the phone talking about condensors?  I'm not even paying attention as I walk past.  BUT:  This isn't reality.  It's a game.  Doing these side quests enables me to extend the playability of the game, might net me some gear or credits, or good will, and some of them were entertaining.  They're fun, I play games to HAVE fun, so I enjoy them. 

The nice thing about them, of course, is if you DON'T like them you can skip 'em.  Now, how cool is that?  A game feature that you can utilize if you like it, or ignore if you don't with NO penalty.  Win/Win situation!  I'm all for those types of things in a game.  I say more power to Bioware, and I hope they do more stuff like that.  Because even if it's something I don't like...I can skip it.  

[Slayer299]

The eavesdropping quests aren't the problem by themselves; it's the sheer amount of them for one and another is that more than a few were perfect for actually "doing" a boots on ground mission, not just scan a planet, maybe run out from the Reapers and then back into the system. A side problem to the quests was the horrific journal which didn't help you out any and acquiring the items for a quest that you never got, but than cannot complete since you didn't get the quest before finding the item.