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[deuce985]

Does anybody know if they're still going to release mod tools for Witcher 2? I remember them officialy saying yes and that they would wait until after the EE version is done. Well...it's out. Have they said any word? Please be true. Expand more on a already awesome game? Yes please.

Putting money down now the first mod that comes out is a nude Saskia mod lol...

Modifié par deuce985, 23 avril 2012 - 10:18 .

[Seboist]

deuce985 wrote...

Does anybody know if they're still going to release mod tools for Witcher 2? I remember them officialy saying yes and that they would wait until after the EE version is done. Well...it's out. Have they said any word? Please be true. Expand more on a already awesome game? Yes please.

Putting down now the first mod that comes out is a nude Saskia mod lol...

I'd prefer a mod that covers up her cleavage.

[deuce985]

Seboist wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Does anybody know if they're still going to release mod tools for Witcher 2? I remember them officialy saying yes and that they would wait until after the EE version is done. Well...it's out. Have they said any word? Please be true. Expand more on a already awesome game? Yes please.

Putting down now the first mod that comes out is a nude Saskia mod lol...

I'd prefer a mod that covers up her cleavage.

I'd personally put scars all over her face and make it more realistic. Doesn't make sense she's such a heralded warrior but has no battle scars? They seem to do that great for everybody else in the game, why not her?

[Nordicus]

Women with scars? Captain Balalaika approves!

Modifié par Nordicus, 23 avril 2012 - 10:23 .

[Chromie]

deuce985 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Does anybody know if they're still going to release mod tools for Witcher 2? I remember them officialy saying yes and that they would wait until after the EE version is done. Well...it's out. Have they said any word? Please be true. Expand more on a already awesome game? Yes please.

Putting down now the first mod that comes out is a nude Saskia mod lol...

I'd prefer a mod that covers up her cleavage.

I'd personally put scars all over her face and make it more realistic. Doesn't make sense she's such a heralded warrior but has no battle scars? They seem to do that great for everybody else in the game, why not her?

Magic can do wonders and Saskia is no ordinary woman.

[deuce985]

Skelter192 wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Does anybody know if they're still going to release mod tools for Witcher 2? I remember them officialy saying yes and that they would wait until after the EE version is done. Well...it's out. Have they said any word? Please be true. Expand more on a already awesome game? Yes please.

Putting down now the first mod that comes out is a nude Saskia mod lol...

I'd prefer a mod that covers up her cleavage.

I'd personally put scars all over her face and make it more realistic. Doesn't make sense she's such a heralded warrior but has no battle scars? They seem to do that great for everybody else in the game, why not her?

Magic can do wonders and Saskia is no ordinary woman.

That's true I guess. Still would like to see a small scar across her cheek...

[Chromie]

deuce985 wrote...

That's true I guess. Still would like to see a small scar across her cheek...

I assume because of her secret her skin is really thick but I could also be talking out of my ass. If you don't know I won't ruin it for you.

Modifié par Skelter192, 23 avril 2012 - 10:41 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...
But the politics and mage stuff in The Witcher 1 is pretty much background stuff. It's the Salamanda, Alvin and The Order that is really important and the game keeps switching the emphasis to each subject as the game progresses.

Yes in TW1, I agree. But the Order / Socia'Tael conflict and the nonhuman issue is not in the bg and when it comes to the quality of how the issue was addressed, it beats everything Origins did. For me quality trumps quantity. TW2 has both.

Yeah I was talking about TW1. TW2 is different and pretty much a massive improvement - IMO - over the first in terms of dialogue, character development, story and combat.

[UnstableMongoose]

Wait, so you mean that adding a clarified ending to the game with extra cutscenes for free is what BioWare should do in this situation?

That's completely ridiculous.

ed. note: also, to concur with current thread discussion, Saskia is a complete badass.

Modifié par UnstableMongoose, 23 avril 2012 - 11:04 .

[Leinadi]

In a sense, I guess I applaud CDProjekt for being able to, in a way, profit off of the disappointments of first DA2 and now ME3 (with the enhanced edition coming out now I mean).

I like neither DA2 or ME3, and I do like TW2, but I can't believe how certain features in TW2 are hand-waved away. Like freaking QTE's, the mini-games (dice-poker works well though), horrendous boss battles (including one where the game forcibly makes you lose in the cutscene after the actual fight), ******'n'ass galore, rubbish targetting (on the PC still at least), crappy interfaces (particularly being forced into the meditation interface when you want to drink a potion) and various other issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Witcher series *should* be commended for many things, some of which they really do better than most other games... But I also feel like CDProjekt is getting away with murder at times because of the goodwill from the enhanced edition as well as fan outrage against Bioware.

Modifié par Leinadi, 23 avril 2012 - 11:19 .

[Chromie]

Leinadi wrote...
 But I also feel like CDProjekt is getting away with murder at times because of the goodwill from the enhanced edition as well as fan outrage against Bioware.

Maybe because some of don't see CDPR getting away with murder. QTE's can be disabled which only leaves like a couple of rapidly pressing X, the UI and controls (well I'm fine with the controls since I play with the gamepad) but I don't see anything else that's a problem. It's no where close to the **** up of ME3 or DA2. 

As for the potions well it can get annoying but that's how they prevent people from drinking pots during a fight and I prefer it that way.

Modifié par Skelter192, 23 avril 2012 - 11:24 .

[Leinadi]

It's no where close to the **** up of ME3 or DA2

That's my point though. I think many people judge it from the light cast from the mistakes of ME3 and DA2, and of course are gonna support this upstart from Poland who "does it right" and shows the big devs how it's done. That's not to say I don't think there are people who find it flawless, not at all, but I think *many* are overlooking/ignoring things based on the goodwill of CDProjekt and the Bioware backlash.

To clarify, I like the mechanic of drinking potions prior to fighting. My beef is that the UI screen used for it is horrendously and unnecessarily slow (sit down and meditate, watch Geralt slowly drink, watch him wipe sweat off brow or whatever). QTEs can be partially shut off but are still present at some points, and there is a minigame entirely based off of them.

Again, not denying that I think Witcher 2 is right on the money for some people... Just saying that there are features in the Witcher 2 that would be bashed to hell and back if they had been in other games (not necessarily even speaking of just Bioware here).

[UnstableMongoose]

Skelter192 wrote...

Leinadi wrote...
 But I also feel like CDProjekt is getting away with murder at times because of the goodwill from the enhanced edition as well as fan outrage against Bioware.

Maybe because some of don't see CDPR getting away with murder. QTE's can be disabled which only leaves like a couple of rapidly pressing X, the UI and controls (well I'm fine with the controls since I play with the gamepad) but I don't see anything else that's a problem. It's no where close to the **** up of ME3 or DA2. 

As for the potions well it can get annoying but that's how they prevent people from drinking pots during a fight and I prefer it that way.

I loved the Witcher 2. But I found it to have the same gripe I have with DA:2. The combat system is fundamentally good, but ruined by some flaw--the characters, story, and presentation are too subjectively different to compare, so I'm going to focus on more solid details (I enjoyed both, pretty much equally, for different reasons). In DA:2, the combat system is too shallow and fast despite the depth it could have had. In The Witcher 2, you are punished brutally for the slightest mistakes, but the targeting is garbage so it's about skill rather than luck a lot of the time, which leads to some rather frustrating deaths.

CDPR is not getting away with murder, per se, but they are getting a lot of hand waves.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Leinadi wrote...
Again, not denying that I think Witcher 2 is right on the money for some people... Just saying that there are features in the Witcher 2 that would be bashed to hell and back if they had been in other games (not necessarily even speaking of just Bioware here).

If those features were necessarily problematic, which I don't think they are.
I don't mind QTEs (and the option to disable them is there), I really liked the boss fights and I do not mind losing in a cutscene if it's executed well which I thought it was...etc.

Which is not to say that it didn't have flaws, it obviously does, but design choices and flaws need to be made seperate. I am in favor of their design choices as a whole. 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 24 avril 2012 - 12:33 .

[Addai]

Elton John is dead wrote...

The Witcher simply contained a few sex cards, a bit of swearing, sexism, racism against the elves and dwarves, some blood, greyness (like Skyrim) and a few quests where you were left thinking about which choice is really the right choice to take and that was it. It's certainly got a dark mood to it but there's no locations that look anything like the Deep Roads or The Circle Tower.

Wat.  I know you're not trying to suggest there are no moody places or horror elements in Witcher because that would just be silly.

I'm replaying TW1 now and I can tell you the mood is pretty somber in the swamps and the sewers.  Also in a lot of Vizima.  The slums and cemetery of course, but even in the Trade Quarter, there are soldiers everywhere and normal people are having a hard time of it.  Not to mention all the crypts and caves.

*sigh*  I love all those environments.

Modifié par Addai67, 24 avril 2012 - 12:33 .

[slimgrin]

Leinadi wrote...


Don't get me wrong, I think the Witcher series *should* be commended for many things, some of which they really do better than most other games... But I also feel like CDProjekt is getting away with murder at times because of the goodwill from the enhanced edition as well as fan outrage against Bioware.

They aren't getting away with murder, but they are getting away with not fixing all the bugs and inconsistencies in the game - some of which are so basic it's baffling to me they still haven't been addressed. I attribute it to a blistering schedual and multiple projects, not necesarilly negligence. Hell maybe even some inexperience, I dunno.

I poked fun at them saying another Polish dev, Flying Wild Hog, released Hard Reset which is about as polished and optimized as a PC game can get. And they're an indie studio who wrote their own engine for the game..  

And btw, QTE's have indeed been bashed to hell and back on their forums and by critics too. I'd be amazed if they continue to use them.

Modifié par slimgrin, 24 avril 2012 - 12:48 .

[deuce985]

I'd be interested to see what some Bioware devs think of these games. I usually see them comment on a popular game on these forums. Don't think I've seen a single comment about Witcher 2 from a Bioware dev...

[Chromie]

[stonbw1]

For a first timer, any suggestions as to combat leveling. I'm only hoping for a fun experience and am playing on normal. I think there are three typical path (sword, potions/traps, and magic). For a first-time enjoyable experience, would you suggest specializing in one and if so, which one? Also, would you forget specialization and spread out your points. I hope to play multiple times, but just looking for some hints on my first go around. Thanks.

[Chromie]

For a first time player go swordsmanship first and put some points into Magic for Vigor not sure if Quen is worth it anymore since I'm Swordsman spec and Quen was nerf (Quen acts as a shield that deflects damage) and Alchemy can be brutal but it requires you to actually use potions, bombs and oils.

[Costin_Razvan]

Improved Quen is worth at least 1 point for the stagger effect on enemies, VERY much worth it. Then there's the deflection.

[UnstableMongoose]

Skelter192 wrote...

For a first time player go swordsmanship first and put some points into Magic for Vigor not sure if Quen is worth it anymore since I'm Swordsman spec and Quen was nerf (Quen acts as a shield that deflects damage) and Alchemy can be brutal but it requires you to actually use potions, bombs and oils.

For a first timer, I would recommend:

Rush swordsman to the final talent without really fleshing much out, giving you a solid combat base. Once you have that, go deep into alchemy and get its final talent. With an advanced, though not completely mastered, Swordsman tree supported by strong alchemy, you'll be a wrecking ball about halfway through the end of Act II, and you should have quite a stockpile of alchemy reagents built up by then.

[deuce985]

I usually got swordsman+magic.

Alchemy is probably the strongest tree overall, IMO. That is, if you constantly use pots.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

The Witcher simply contained a few sex cards, a bit of swearing, sexism, racism against the elves and dwarves, some blood, greyness (like Skyrim) and a few quests where you were left thinking about which choice is really the right choice to take and that was it. It's certainly got a dark mood to it but there's no locations that look anything like the Deep Roads or The Circle Tower.

Wat.  I know you're not trying to suggest there are no moody places or horror elements in Witcher because that would just be silly.

I'm replaying TW1 now and I can tell you the mood is pretty somber in the swamps and the sewers.  Also in a lot of Vizima.  The slums and cemetery of course, but even in the Trade Quarter, there are soldiers everywhere and normal people are having a hard time of it.  Not to mention all the crypts and caves.

*sigh*  I love all those environments.

There's certainly some dark enviroments and moody places to explore in The Witcher but as I said, I think the Deep Roads and The Circle Tower from Origins have the darker theme. The way that the Deep Roads and Circle Tower get more creepier as you progress just adds to the atsmosphere.

Dragon Age 2 though had none of that sadly. You walk into necromancer's lairs and other foreboding places and they don't even look scary or horrific.