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[MalevoIence]

I did threads in regards to whether you regret not romancing Tali and Ashley instead of Liara and people started giving reasons why they wouldn't as if this was real life like "I would never cheat on Liara" so.... had the inspiration to make this thread.

Asari live 1000 years naturally,  Liara is only 106 or so.... do you think you'll be her last? Think Shepard will be the last person she says she loves or marries, or has children with?  The rude awakening is she will probably marry and love 8 other guys, sleep with 100 other men, and forget all about you 800 years from now, before she finally bites the dust.

Just thought since everyone else was speaking to me realistically, thought I'd do the same.... overall speaking, is it worth romancing her when looking at the big picture? lol

Suppose it's the notion of You knowing "Many" Men are going to put their thing in your wife when your gone;

frankly speaking I'd choose someone to grow old with, so any of the other LI



Think about it this way, how important is 30-40 years in a lifespan of 1000?

I think that Asari in ME 2, who you help her decide whether or not she should stay with Char, explains of how meaningless 30-40 years with a human is to an Asari compared to being with a Krogan who lives just as long as an asari would consider it a lifelong committment for them and more hesitant towards it.  

Basically, a lifelong committment for a human with an asari would be considered a fling for the Asari

Let me be a little vulgar..... say your married, and you wind up dying early, expect your wife to be living with and having sex with who you both considered a family friend or your best friend soon after.  Love is farce, compare that importance with someone who lives a thousand years

Modifié par MalevoIence, 20 avril 2012 - 02:18 .

[Kaelef]

Relationships with asari are not for those with weak egos.

Modifié par Kaelef, 19 avril 2012 - 10:20 .

[Edolix]

I agree with you completely OP, and its what put me off romancing an Asari in the first place. Liara would look as young as ever, whilst Shepard would be an old man. It doesn't seem right at all to them through that. In fact, I would consider it a cruel experience for both of them.

I'll be happy with Tali. At least quarians have the same lifespan as humans.

[Vormaerin]

Its unlikely that she'd actually forget about you, but it is quite likely that you won't be her last. There's not even necessarily any reason to think she'll go matron stage with Shepard. She is *very* young. Doesn't mean its not worthwhile.

If your widow or widower remarries in the real world, does that invalidate your relationship somehow? Besides, you are dead at that point, anyway. What do you care what she does then?

[pacer90]

I don't follow the train of logic. It would be totally different if it was the other way around, and you lived forever and she lived for 15 years or something. Then you would have serious questions about if it was worth it.

And you said "800 years she'll forget about Shepard"

Ahh... forget about Commander Shepard? Did you play the same game as I did?

[Wulfram]

I'm really glad if Liara goes on to find love after Shepard. Liara living happily ever after for a 1000 years is about the thing my Shepard would most want to result from her sacrifice on the Citadel. If Liara didn't find love again in all that time, that would mean she was broken somehow, and that would really be a tragedy.

Though "100 men" is probably a poor estimate. Firstly, because they won't necessarily be men - they might be women, or Hanar or whatever. Secondly, considering she waited 100 years before finding her first I'd say she's rather picky.

Modifié par Wulfram, 19 avril 2012 - 10:26 .

[fmantr]

Pick the blue ending, become a reaper overlord and you'll live thousand times longer than Liara

[Jestina]

Doesn't matter. Being first is what counts.

[Apathy1989]

Well she says at the beginning that asari just kind of accept it, must be hard though. What I think is more harsh realism is that shepard and liara won't be having children - Liara is too young to be up for that (at least by asari standards).

Its another reason why I prefer tali.

[fmantr]

Arcian wrote...

TL113 wrote...

Pick the blue ending, become a reaper overlord and you'll live thousand times longer than Liara

As information inside the goddamn Citadel. I'm sure the sex will be just prime.

Reaper tech will help Shepard to build new body. Or to assume direct control on Javick 

[MalevoIence]

pacer90 wrote...

I don't follow the train of logic. It would be totally different if it was the other way around, and you lived forever and she lived for 15 years or something. Then you would have serious questions about if it was worth it.

And you said "800 years she'll forget about Shepard"

Ahh... forget about Commander Shepard? Did you play the same game as I did?

The logic is so simple a caveman can figure it out though.... besides, wasn't being hypothetical in what if roles were reverse, but how roles are now.  This isn't an debate, but an argument whether romancing an Asari was worth it in the big grand scheme of things.  Not really

Modifié par MalevoIence, 19 avril 2012 - 10:42 .

[pacer90]

MalevoIence wrote...

pacer90 wrote...

I don't follow the train of logic. It would be totally different if it was the other way around, and you lived forever and she lived for 15 years or something. Then you would have serious questions about if it was worth it.

And you said "800 years she'll forget about Shepard"

Ahh... forget about Commander Shepard? Did you play the same game as I did?

The logic is so simple a caveman can figure it out though.... besides, wasn't being hypothetical in what if roles were reverse, but how roles are now.  This isn't an debate, but an argument whether romancing an Asari was worth it in the big grand scheme of things.  Not really

I think we're just at a fundamental difference of opinion in that I wouldn't care if I was her last.

[Wulfram]

Arcian wrote...

TL113 wrote...

Pick the blue ending, become a reaper overlord and you'll live thousand times longer than Liara

As information inside the goddamn Citadel. I'm sure the sex will be just prime.

Well, the Citadel having sex with Liara might get a bit awkward for the inhabitants.  But I'm sure Asari have done it with stranger beings.

[Karrie788]

I don't romance Liara, but how is that a problem? Liara wouldn't cheat on you, she'd move on, she has the right to. She explains pretty clearly what asari relationships are like in ME1. Yes, they know their partners is going to die long before they do, but they choose to focus on being happy with their love rather than mourning them in advance. And they cherish the memories afterwards, like that Asari on Illium with her human lover Steven, I think.

It's pretty romantic.

Modifié par Karrie788, 19 avril 2012 - 10:57 .

[Wulfram]

Karrie788 wrote...

I don't romance Liara, but how is that a problem? Liara wouldn't cheat on you, she'd move on, she has the right to. She explains pretty clearly what asari relationships are like in ME1. Yes, they know their partners is going to die long before they do, but they choose to focus on being happy with their love rather than mourning them in advance. And they cherish the memories afterwards, like that Asari on Illium with her human lover Steven, I think.

It's pretty romantic.

Though unless Steven was extremely old to begin with, he didn't die of old age.  Humans and Asari have only known about each other for 30 years.

[Karrie788]

Wulfram wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

I don't romance Liara, but how is that a problem? Liara wouldn't cheat on you, she'd move on, she has the right to. She explains pretty clearly what asari relationships are like in ME1. Yes, they know their partners is going to die long before they do, but they choose to focus on being happy with their love rather than mourning them in advance. And they cherish the memories afterwards, like that Asari on Illium with her human lover Steven, I think.

It's pretty romantic.

Though unless Steven was extremely old to begin with, he didn't die of old age.  Humans and Asari have only known about each other for 30 years.

Sure, but she still looked very much in love with the guy, even when mourning him.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Considering that you can romance Steve and Thane who have dead spouses, it's only fair things should be the same in reverse.

[Nightdragon8]

.... wow so if you die you wouldn't want your seginicite other to remarry or ever find happyness with another person they love ever again??? really? What kind of egotisic thoughts are you having. Also I seriously doubt that Liara would forget shepard, considering I think you are the first person to really connect to her, and you whre also her first human so, you don't forget firsts....

Also 800 years from now, I wouldn't doubt there will be religions sprouting up around Shepard, considering he SAVED THE GALAXY. I mean Every human colony will have at least 1 statue somewhere. And Liara being the shadow broker more than likly she wont have any intamte trusting relationships,

So in reality yea so what if your not the last, if I happen to die I would want my wife to try to find happyness again... would like to at least wait a year or so just to be a good sign of taste. other than that whatever.

[HopHazzard]

How is that a rude awakening in ME3? You can talk to her in ME1 about how asari view their relationships with shorter-lived species.

[Goku16]

that's your opinion, in mines when shepherd die, liara finds out that she's pregnant,she's spend most her time taking care of the baby until she hits the matriarch stage. telling her stories about her father, stuff like that.. anyway its a game, its not like any of those things are going to happened but i'm 100% percent sure liara will never cheat on shepherd because of their bond, even after shepherd died in me2.. for the pass 2 years liara never cheated on shepherd. i don't get why people always hate on liara and shepherd relationship...sheesh. for those who say tali and shepherd are good couples are wrong, humans and quarians relationship is bad because of the dextro-amino thing and it would be pretty boring because they can't have childrens. i think turian and quarian will be a good couple just like garrus and tali.

[rubynorman]

Being the first and the best are what count. And Shepard will live on in her through the melding.  If she can find happiness after Shep's death then I'm fine with that. A part of me don't want her to love someone else, but do you really want your love ones to live in misery? And she has Shep's child in my headcanon too, obviously she found a new one to love, our little blue children

[The Lightspeaker]

Wulfram wrote...

I'm really glad if Liara goes on to find love after Shepard. Liara living happily ever after for a 1000 years is about the thing my Shepard would most want to result from her sacrifice on the Citadel. If Liara didn't find love again in all that time, that would mean she was broken somehow, and that would really be a tragedy.

Though "100 men" is probably a poor estimate. Firstly, because they won't necessarily be men - they might be women, or Hanar or whatever. Secondly, considering she waited 100 years before finding her first I'd say she's rather picky.

This (though I disagree with your "sacrifice" comment because seriously, screw the ending ). I really don't see how any of it is a problem. Asari are culturally used to it and Liara is flat out up-front with the whole thing in ME1. Getting into a relationship with Liara means you're accepting that. Its hardly the "rude awakening" you're making it out to be when you've known all along.

My Shepard wants to live happily with Liara for the rest of her life, have a child or two together (don't even get started into the "can she, can't she" debate, we already had that one about two hundred pages ago in the Liara thread; based on the biological information provided I reckon she can, despite being unusual) and then for Liara to be happy for the rest of her life. Whether that means finding a new partner or not doesn't matter; so long as she is happy.

[KingNothing125]

You're Shepard, the savior of the galaxy who has Prothean history and culture rattling around in your head. No one will ever compare to that, as far as Liara is concerned.

She might try to move on after a while, but no one will compare. She'll visit your grave and then kill herself at the ripe old age of 200something.

Happy ending!