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Liara Romance Arc- Rude Awakening, You Won't Be Liara's Last


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Mobius-Silent

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MalevoIence wrote...
Not so much of an ego as Liara can far outlive your lifespan, whereas you could grow old in a relationship with one of the others.  That you'll only be a chapter in her millenia long lifespan.


"Only"? Wow, your forum name is apt. 

You know what doesn't deserve the label "only"? Love! It happens, and it last as long as it does, and we get the cards we are dealt. Would Shepard get _more_ love with another? Does [s]he get _less_ love with Liara?

No and No. People can die at _any moment_ regardless of their average natural lifespan

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No, what I'm saying is why choose Liara at all?

I don't think that's how love works. If you RP Shepard and Liara falling in love, then they're in love. That's it. You, the player, may "choose Liara" but Shepard doesn't.

I think that this is all based you taking a gameplay mechanic (Shepard can choose any of the LI) and treating it as literally true (Shepard loves all potential LI equally and is aware of this), which is just plain silly.

It's like if you were 80 yrs old falling in love with a 20 yr old since you like comparisons so much and even those ratios are kind

Apart from the somewhat squicky subtext (which is no doubt intentional), I can't see the problem with this.

And since you like comparisons as well, how about one that doesn't introduce bias by having a vast difference in maturity: 20yr old Alice falls in love with 20yr old Bob who has a medical condition that means he only has 10 years to live. Should Bob give up dating because any partner will outlive him (and probably have other sexual partners)? Should Bob start dating 80yr old pensioners just so that they can die together?

For the record, you know that Romeo and Juliet is a *tragedy*, right? The point is that they could all have lived happily ever after if only Romeo hadn't been under the delusion that life is pointless without Juliet.

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

No, what I'm saying is why choose Liara at all?

I don't think that's how love works. If you RP Shepard and Liara falling in love, then they're in love. That's it. You, the player, may "choose Liara" but Shepard doesn't.

I think that this is all based you taking a gameplay mechanic (Shepard can choose any of the LI) and treating it as literally true (Shepard loves all potential LI equally and is aware of this), which is just plain silly.

It's like if you were 80 yrs old falling in love with a 20 yr old since you like comparisons so much and even those ratios are kind

Apart from the somewhat squicky subtext (which is no doubt intentional), I can't see the problem with this.

And since you like comparisons as well, how about one that doesn't introduce bias by having a vast difference in maturity: 20yr old Alice falls in love with 20yr old Bob who has a medical condition that means he only has 10 years to live. Should Bob give up dating because any partner will outlive him (and probably have other sexual partners)? Should Bob start dating 80yr old pensioners just so that they can die together?

For the record, you know that Romeo and Juliet is a *tragedy*, right? The point is that they could all have lived happily ever after if only Romeo hadn't been under the delusion that life is pointless without Juliet.


Having a medical condition is completely different, and also I doubt Romeo or Juliet knew it would end in a tragedy.  Being a presumptuous troll as you are, yes I knew that btw.  Like I said, doubt they'd end that way though.

My point is, Liara far outlives Shepard, she will move on and you will be nothing more than a memory.  For Shepard, living what he could expect as a full human life is much different than someone with an illness falling in love before the end. If you hadn't been reconstructed in ME2 she probably would have ended up with that Drell, and your importance to anyone would end right there.  The difference is, for someone who lives 1000 years or someone who lives 100 years, who would be more likely to consider Shepard the love of their life?  A or B?  And just like that Asari who fell in love with that Krogan said as an example, "With a human you can just wait 50 or so years till they croak and move on, with a Krogan it's a lifelong commitment."  See, meaningless in the grand time table.

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  16 Minutes in Liara explains what happens when an asari's partner dies. Though she doesn't talk about asari moving on and joining with anyone else, I guess you'll have to take your own path into deciding that.