The Romance Pack
#251
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 02:38
#252
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:11
Modifié par Mechanic.92, 20 avril 2012 - 03:12 .
#253
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:14
It bears repeating. And fix her characterization while at it.Mechanic.92 wrote...
More Miranda... and I will pay!
#254
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:23
if you want an elaborate romance that doesn't involve one of the partner's premature death - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT ROMANCE A GUY WHO CLEARLY TELLS YOU HE'S TERMINALLY ILL FROM THE GET-GO.
Honestly, as much as I resent Kai Leng as a cheap, one-dimensional villain, I feel that the ME-writers handled the Thane-arc extraordinarily well. His deathbed scene was one of the most moving moments in the whole game, and I wouldn't wish to trade it in for some cheap last-minute miracle cure. (Although I wouldn't mind if the Thanemancers got some more character interaction prior to this event.)
#255
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:24
#256
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:34
Jassu1979 wrote...
Dear thanemancers,
if you want an elaborate romance that doesn't involve one of the partner's premature death - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT ROMANCE A GUY WHO CLEARLY TELLS YOU HE'S TERMINALLY ILL FROM THE GET-GO.
Honestly, as much as I resent Kai Leng as a cheap, one-dimensional villain, I feel that the ME-writers handled the Thane-arc extraordinarily well. His deathbed scene was one of the most moving moments in the whole game, and I wouldn't wish to trade it in for some cheap last-minute miracle cure. (Although I wouldn't mind if the Thanemancers got some more character interaction prior to this event.)
Then clearly, Shepard shouldn't romance anyone since s/he is CLEARLY DEAD AT THE BEGINNING OF ME2
Yes, we knew he was dying. Does that mean we shouldn't care about him? Maybe we romanced him DESPITE his illness? Because he was a fascinating character in and of himself?
Maybe BW shouldn't have led us to believe that his illness had the potential of being delayed or cured?
#257
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:35
#258
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:36
I think a quest/mission to Kahje to gather drell/hanar war assets while getting him a cure AS AN OPTION would be perfect! I'd even airlock some crew just to get him back.
Modifié par Cosmochyck, 20 avril 2012 - 03:36 .
#259
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 03:38
#260
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:16
RShara wrote...
Jassu1979 wrote...
Dear thanemancers,
if you want an elaborate romance that doesn't involve one of the partner's premature death - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT ROMANCE A GUY WHO CLEARLY TELLS YOU HE'S TERMINALLY ILL FROM THE GET-GO.
Honestly, as much as I resent Kai Leng as a cheap, one-dimensional villain, I feel that the ME-writers handled the Thane-arc extraordinarily well. His deathbed scene was one of the most moving moments in the whole game, and I wouldn't wish to trade it in for some cheap last-minute miracle cure. (Although I wouldn't mind if the Thanemancers got some more character interaction prior to this event.)
Then clearly, Shepard shouldn't romance anyone since s/he is CLEARLY DEAD AT THE BEGINNING OF ME2
Yes, we knew he was dying. Does that mean we shouldn't care about him? Maybe we romanced him DESPITE his illness? Because he was a fascinating character in and of himself?
Maybe BW shouldn't have led us to believe that his illness had the potential of being delayed or cured?
The potential of being delayed or cured? He tells you himself that there's no cure as it stands, and that the research effort into it is decades away from a cure still. It was certainly delayed - he also tells you himself that he's several months past the point where he was predicted to have died by all doctors. I loved Thane as a character, and the deathbed scene made me cry. And I'm a burly, manly man. I think that Thanemancers *should* get more Thane-based action, such as a recorded farewell message, reminiscent of the Greybox scene in ME2, some more dialogue in the hospital after you first find him there (Perhaps discussing the missions you've undertaken), and some tweaks to existing dialogue, but I *am* against a cure for him. He dies as a badass hero, taking on an enhanced space ninja in hand to hand, even though he's in the final stages of a terminal illness, as it should be. (We both know that if Thane had been at his best, Leng would've been put down like the little **** he is)
Also, I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with the Shepard analogy? There was never an in-game calendar for his death, and at no point is anyone romancing Shepard under the belief he's terminally ill.
The Jacobmancers were definitely cheated though. Quite literally.
Modifié par Versidious, 20 avril 2012 - 04:17 .
#261
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:23
Versidious wrote...
RShara wrote...
Jassu1979 wrote...
Dear thanemancers,
if you want an elaborate romance that doesn't involve one of the partner's premature death - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT ROMANCE A GUY WHO CLEARLY TELLS YOU HE'S TERMINALLY ILL FROM THE GET-GO.
Honestly, as much as I resent Kai Leng as a cheap, one-dimensional villain, I feel that the ME-writers handled the Thane-arc extraordinarily well. His deathbed scene was one of the most moving moments in the whole game, and I wouldn't wish to trade it in for some cheap last-minute miracle cure. (Although I wouldn't mind if the Thanemancers got some more character interaction prior to this event.)
Then clearly, Shepard shouldn't romance anyone since s/he is CLEARLY DEAD AT THE BEGINNING OF ME2
Yes, we knew he was dying. Does that mean we shouldn't care about him? Maybe we romanced him DESPITE his illness? Because he was a fascinating character in and of himself?
Maybe BW shouldn't have led us to believe that his illness had the potential of being delayed or cured?
The potential of being delayed or cured? He tells you himself that there's no cure as it stands, and that the research effort into it is decades away from a cure still. It was certainly delayed - he also tells you himself that he's several months past the point where he was predicted to have died by all doctors. I loved Thane as a character, and the deathbed scene made me cry. And I'm a burly, manly man. I think that Thanemancers *should* get more Thane-based action, such as a recorded farewell message, reminiscent of the Greybox scene in ME2, some more dialogue in the hospital after you first find him there (Perhaps discussing the missions you've undertaken), and some tweaks to existing dialogue, but I *am* against a cure for him. He dies as a badass hero, taking on an enhanced space ninja in hand to hand, even though he's in the final stages of a terminal illness, as it should be. (We both know that if Thane had been at his best, Leng would've been put down like the little **** he is)
Bioware hosted a facebook campagin about a cure for Thane. LoTSB hinted at a cure in the in the Broker files.
If BioWare didn't want people to think there was a cure coming...why give them so much hope that there would be one?
#262
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:28
What I'd really like is a satnav voiced by my LI but unfortuantely the voice can't be changed on the one built in to my car.
#263
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:31
Versidious wrote...
Also, I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with the Shepard analogy? There was never an in-game calendar for his death, and at no point is anyone romancing Shepard under the belief he's terminally ill.
The Jacobmancers were definitely cheated though. Quite literally.
My analogy was to make the point that Shepard can be brought back from being dead, but Thane can't be cured from a disease? (Hint: One is much more space magicky than the other)
Directly after being recruited, during the first conversation on the Normandy, Thane mentioned that the Hanar were working on a cure; he just didn't expect that he would live long enough to benefit from it. In Lair of the Shadow Broker, Thane's dossier showed that he was an eligible transplant candidate, but he refused; it is unclear when it
occurred, so it is unknown whether or not he refused pre- or post meeting Shepard. But the important information here is that it was possible for Thane to receive a transplant that would extend his life. There would not need to be a miracle cure because there was already one in the works by the Hanar. In addition, the CDN mentioned a new medigel for the lungs that would revolutionize internal medicine; I hope I need not explain how this could immediately benefit Thane.
And yet,
all that foreshadowing, dismissed. There was hope; not hope from desperate fans reaching for any half-baked scrap of information to support their claim, but hope born of game-provided evidence. This was a slap in the face. If Thane was always slated to die, why give any of it at all? Why have Thane mention that the Hanar were working on a cure?
Why put in Thane's Shadow Broker Dossier that he was an eligible transplant candidate? Why release on the CDN information about a medigel for the lungs, when that information would only be of interest to a select group of the fan base? Why recognize the "Cure Thane in ME3" banner, giving more hope to fans? If this isn't trolling, I don't know any other name for it.
In the Mass Effect universe, Shepard was been brought back to life from unquestionable death. Mordin threw
together a Genophage cure. Making those two things happen while stating that extending Thane's life wasn't possible despite all this information is simply contradictory and nonsensical.
Modifié par RShara, 20 avril 2012 - 04:33 .
#264
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:32
#265
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:35
I doubt there would ever actually be something like this though, the romances are the kind of thing that are VERY important to a small core group of fans, but probably not a big deal to the average ME player.
#266
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:41
Thane is my favourite squadmate and deserves more romantical screentime with his beloved Siha than he got in ME 3!
#267
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:47
#268
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:52
Rustywhale wrote...
No thanks. . I would rather spend money on what matters. . .you know. . .real life relationships and all that.
This and...
[img] http://blog.fileplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Mass-Effect-3-Reaper-Attack-Wallpaper-1200x800.jpg [/img]
edit: meh, pretend there is a picture of a reaper destroying things, BSN is horrible at embedding things.
In case you didn't notice, the galaxy is getting blown to hell by the greatest threat to any species ever. And we're to expect Shepard's going to go around watching Blasto with his LI?
I don't understand this obsession with LI's, well I do I s'pose, but I don't agree with it. People have been placing greater and greater emphasis on them as the series went on, but they're honestly not important.
Modifié par Vigil_N7, 20 avril 2012 - 04:55 .
#269
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:54
#270
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 04:54
Sure they're important. My Shepard's LI gives him something to live for as well as fight for. Plot-wise they're unimportant but since the appeal of ME is largely character-based (and setting) they're important to the game.Vigil_N7 wrote...
In case you didn't notice, the galaxy is getting blown to hell by the greatest threat to any species ever. And we're to expect Shepard's going to go around watching Blasto with his LI?
I don't understand this obsession with LI's, well I do I s'pose, but I don't agree with it. People have been placing greater and greater emphasis on them as the series went on, but they're honestly not important.
#271
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 05:00
retake campaign "TURN it ON and TURN it OFF" - more info
on HTL (http://www.holdtheli...or-bioware.877/)
on FB (http://www.facebook....10761315601880/)
Please invite your friends!
Shortly how to take part:
- Turn ON the Mass Effect 3 single player campaign at some point during Saturday, April 28th (Pacific Time/GMT -7). It does not need to be on for the entire 24 hour period.
- Tweet Bioware/EA to let them know you are playing in order to show them the number of fans who support them. Post an after action report on the BSN.
- Turn OFF Mass Effect 3 and do not play either single or multiplayer for the entirety of Sunday, April 29th (Pacific Time/GMT -7). The game must be shut off for the entire 24 hour period. Do not log in to the BSN forum during this time.
- Tweet Bioware/EA again to let them know you are demonstrating their potential loss of customers.
#272
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 05:10
This.Jassu1979 wrote...
Dear thanemancers,
if you want an elaborate romance that doesn't involve one of the partner's premature death - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT ROMANCE A GUY WHO CLEARLY TELLS YOU HE'S TERMINALLY ILL FROM THE GET-GO.
Honestly, as much as I resent Kai Leng as a cheap, one-dimensional villain, I feel that the ME-writers handled the Thane-arc extraordinarily well. His deathbed scene was one of the most moving moments in the whole game, and I wouldn't wish to trade it in for some cheap last-minute miracle cure. (Although I wouldn't mind if the Thanemancers got some more character interaction prior to this event.)
I'm sorry, but giving Thane a "way out" would be very cheap. I can understand including more romantic interactions with him throughout the first part of the game (with flashbacks in the latter part), but Thane's death was beautifully handled. I wouldn't want to trade it for some magical cure. And, the man told you he was dying when he first met you and you decided to get in a relationship with him, anyway.
On the contrary, Shepard (literally) has the weight of the entire galaxy on his/her shoulders. They are under a massive deal of stress. Spending time with people that care the most about them makes sense and would be very welcome. I was waiting for that moment where Ash told my broshep "I'm here for you," other than having to hear it from Liara for the third time. It eventually came, but right before the Cerberus base. I think there should be moments prior.In case you didn't notice, the galaxy is getting blown to hell by the
greatest threat to any species ever. And we're to expect Shepard's going
to go around watching Blasto with his LI?
I don't understand
this obsession with LI's, well I do I s'pose, but I don't agree with it.
People have been placing greater and greater emphasis on them as the
series went on, but they're honestly not important.
Also, people like me enjoy the romances because it adds to the escapism and shapes what we view in our Shepards. It's an RP luxury that is actually very well done in this series. People want more and I can understand this!
So, I hope Bioware takes notice of this thread and gives those that want more romance interactions a DLC to enjoy more. And, if you don't agree with the romances, you can always not romance anyone and, y'know, not download the DLC.
#273
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 05:16
Modifié par HoldTheLine, 20 avril 2012 - 05:19 .
#274
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 05:19
#275
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 05:21
Nailed it.Omega Torsk wrote...
On the contrary, Shepard (literally) has the weight of the entire galaxy on his/her shoulders. They are under a massive deal of stress. Spending time with people that care the most about them makes sense and would be very welcome. I was waiting for that moment where Ash told my broshep "I'm here for you," other than having to hear it from Liara for the third time. It eventually came, but right before the Cerberus base. I think there should be moments prior.In case you didn't notice, the galaxy is getting blown to hell by the greatest threat to any species ever. And we're to expect Shepard's going to go around watching Blasto with his LI?
I don't understand this obsession with LI's, well I do I s'pose, but I don't agree with it. People have been placing greater and greater emphasis on them as the series went on, but they're honestly not important.
Also, people like me enjoy the romances because it adds to the escapism and shapes what we view in our Shepards. It's an RP luxury that is actually very well done in this series. People want more and I can understand this!
So, I hope Bioware takes notice of this thread and gives those that want more romance interactions a DLC to enjoy more. And, if you don't agree with the romances, you can always not romance anyone and, y'know, not download the DLC.
Also, I didn't get any "I'm here for you's" from my LI even once.





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