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#151
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Nightwriter wrote...

The ME2 LI treatment bothered me more than the endings, really. At least if only the endings were my problem, I could play through the first 98% of the game happily, enjoy an awesome experience, then just stop playing before the final ten minutes. If the ME2 LI's had gotten satisfactory content, I could join the ranks of the Liaramancers and the VSmancers and the Garrusmancers, who have only the endings to protest, only the endings standing between them and a perfect game experience.

Instead I sit over here knowing that even if they wave a magic wand and salvage the endings, my experience will still be missing a crucial element that is quite unlikely ever to be fixed. Big bummer.

What's more, everyone seems to want the endings to be readdressed, while not many people probably care whether Thane fans and Jack fans and such got gypped. It's a complaint that doesn't get a whole lot of validation, because they are, after all, just romances.


^^This. As much as I loathe the endings, and find them to be poorly written, the Thane thing bothered me more (and, to be honest, Legion's death bothered me as well because it was so contrived, stupid, and pointless, and it is obvious that the only reason Legion died was to kick the player in the gut some more) because the writing for it went beyond poor and into atrocious. That they admitted that they flat out forgot the character, honestly, pissed me off. They retconned his character (since if you romanced him, he no longer wanted to die, which means he'd have sought help for his disease). Matters were made worse by the fact that Shepard was almost completely auto'd during scenes with him, and what she said/did was not representative of what my Shepard would've done. And the hospital grinding was in poor taste, to say the least. I was appalled that they put such crap in the game and had the gall to call this game "brilliant". 

The ME2 characters were treated like utter crap, which is bad, but the way the Thane parts played out (and the Jacob "I'm a stereotypical horny black dude who knocks up women and can't stay faithful!") was flat out unforgivable. It needs to be fixed - and, along with it, the way they overdid Shepard autodialogue in many scenes - just as much as the ending needs to be fixed. They broke the narrative, ruined character development, and took away our control of the damned character we've been controlling since ME1 came out just so they could make a "dark, deep story". It isn't right. 

#152
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Menethra wrote...

Ketten wrote...

RShara wrote...

I'd pay money for a romance at all....


:( .... *Hug.*

I think BioWare owes Thanemancers some goddamn treats.

Could be worse it could be jacob :P


A few dialogue tweaks and it could work out. Have him supporting Brynn in a brotherly fashion instead of as a baby daddy (as in someone else knocked her up)- it could even give him something to look forward to in the future, that maybe one day he and Shepard could settle down.


Not that difficult, and I'm really not sure why they didn't do it in the first place.

#153
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RShara wrote...

Ketten wrote...

RShara wrote...

I'd pay money for a romance at all....


:( .... *Hug.*

I think BioWare owes Thanemancers some goddamn treats.


*hugs*

And the Jacobmancers too!


I can't help but feel a little racist witht he thoughts that naturally stem from that line in light of Jacob's current situation. A black man ditching his babymama to hook up with someone else?:whistle:

Well, I suppose that could address that in the extended cut. I mean, Tali waited around, but hooks up with Garrus if you ignored her. Jacob could have reasonably be rewritten the same way. Wait, nvm. BioWare hates retcons.


I was really disappointed with Liara's story. After the whole "old age, marriage, and lots of blue babies" conversation, I was expecting the conversations with her to be a bit more intimate. She wanted me to promise that I'm always coming back, so the total lack of interaction there can't be a fear of commitment. She could have at least popped up to my room for dinner once in a while. It's so lonely up there.:crying:

#154
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Rustywhale wrote...

No thanks. . I would rather spend money on what matters. . .you know. . .real life relationships and all that.


This

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RShara

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Valentia X wrote...

Menethra wrote...

Ketten wrote...

RShara wrote...

I'd pay money for a romance at all....


:( .... *Hug.*

I think BioWare owes Thanemancers some goddamn treats.

Could be worse it could be jacob :P


A few dialogue tweaks and it could work out. Have him supporting Brynn in a brotherly fashion instead of as a baby daddy (as in someone else knocked her up)- it could even give him something to look forward to in the future, that maybe one day he and Shepard could settle down.


Not that difficult, and I'm really not sure why they didn't do it in the first place.


Totally this.  I don't think Jacob and Brynn even actually *interact* that much, and not romantically.  They could use the same scenes, and just have different dialogue during them.  The relatively poor lip-syncing would hide the rest.

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The Virmire Survivor needs more on-Normandy interactions with both Shep and the rest of the crew. Ash/Kaidan are back on board, and they don't have time to talk to Joker or Chakwas or anyone else?

Jack and Miranda need more content, and Jack needs a proper love scene.

Thane needs more content and a proper love scene. He doesn't even count as a romance in ME3's current form, what the heck is up with that?

Jacob needs a complete overhaul. The way Jacob was handled is downright inexcusable. It's always amusing to hear people who didn't romance him say "oh, that's cool it's just like real life." What-the-F-ever, holmes. If BioWare had made Tali or Garrus or whoever cheat on Shepard, there would be riots in the street. There is no reason to subject any LI's to that kind of crappy treatment.

FemShep needs more ME3 options. Didn't romance Garrus in ME2? Get heartbroken by Jacob? Well guess what, your options are: Kaidan, and three chicks. Enjoy. Yeah, OK... how about Vega? They already flirt with each other.

#157
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KingNothing125 wrote...
FemShep needs more ME3 options. Didn't romance Garrus in ME2? Get heartbroken by Jacob? Well guess what, your options are: Kaidan, and three chicks. Enjoy. Yeah, OK... how about Vega? They already flirt with each other.


Yeah why wasnt Vega an LI? Would have made total sense. And imagine the uproar if, for maleShep's, there was one female and three males to bonk. lol

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Would definitely pay money for that OP. To have Samara as a full LI absolutely!

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If they fix the endings, yes. IMO I would recommend more time on the ME 2 Lis.

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Nightwriter wrote...

Would I pay money for them to fix my broken gaming experience?

Of course I would.



Already paid them, and it's sadly broken anyway, so no more money for you............come back one century.

#161
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I'd pay money for it. Bondmate bracelet, extra dates, being able to call her up to my cabin for drinks or other things. I'd definitely drop $7 on that.

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cbutz wrote...

If they fix the endings, yes. IMO I would recommend more time on the ME 2 Lis.

I agree.

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Sparatus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
Call me a perv. Nudity is good. Yeah, it's kind of soft porn. But it's also one of the most emphatic expressions of intimacy. Done right, it comes at the climax of a scene that has set up a mature, meaningful romance dynamic.

The Liara fans got good nudity. Gimme good nudity.

Or wait, were you being sarcastic. Hard to tell.


Night, you know if we start making characters naked that it will lead to a naked Garrus. And I don't want to see a naked Garrus.

Don't be silly. Of course you do. You just don't realize it yet. Give it time. I didn't realize it, either. Not right away. Now I realize how blind I was.

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KingNothing125 wrote...

The Virmire Survivor needs more on-Normandy interactions with both Shep and the rest of the crew. Ash/Kaidan are back on board, and they don't have time to talk to Joker or Chakwas or anyone else?

Jack and Miranda need more content, and Jack needs a proper love scene.

Thane needs more content and a proper love scene. He doesn't even count as a romance in ME3's current form, what the heck is up with that?

Jacob needs a complete overhaul. The way Jacob was handled is downright inexcusable. It's always amusing to hear people who didn't romance him say "oh, that's cool it's just like real life." What-the-F-ever, holmes. If BioWare had made Tali or Garrus or whoever cheat on Shepard, there would be riots in the street. There is no reason to subject any LI's to that kind of crappy treatment.

FemShep needs more ME3 options. Didn't romance Garrus in ME2? Get heartbroken by Jacob? Well guess what, your options are: Kaidan, and three chicks. Enjoy. Yeah, OK... how about Vega? They already flirt with each other.


I agree that all of these need to be addressed, but I think I'm beyond paying BioWare/EA anymore money. It should have been done right the first time and I could care less for their excuses now.

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As turned off I am by the thought of Mass Effect 3 DLC, I'd absolutely buy DLC that'd make Vega romanceable or give more options for Thane.

#166
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Of course I would buy it. The romances are a big part of the game for me and I feel all of them needed more work. Including Liara's even though she had the best imo.

And with how often threads like this keep popping up in the ME3 spoilers section alone, I'd say a lot of people would get this... Once the ending is delt with of course.

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Unfortunately, Miranda doesn't need a romance extension so much as a characterization and story fix. Extend the encounter with Mr Lawson, make her be present at Cronos station, show the fight with Kai Leng. Show her as awesome as she's implied to be. Should I get more romance content as a bonus, I'd be delighted, but romance content alone won't cut it.

Thane and Jack need simply more content. Thane needs romance content. And Jacob's story needs to be replaced.

The deal the ME2-exclusive LIs got was abysmal. I doubt whether it can be fixed via DLC, and I doubt they'd spend any resources on DLC not everyone can play, but just in case, I'm going to say I want more. They deserve more!

#168
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Sure. Just let me get engaged in a romance first

*forever alone*

#169
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Yep, I'd certainly go for some sort of romance pack.

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Ieldra2 wrote...
The deal the ME2-exclusive LIs got was abysmal [...] I'm going to say I want more. They deserve more!


Agreed!

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 20 avril 2012 - 05:12 .


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Do. Want.
As long as they add in more content for traynor :)

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KingNothing125 wrote...

The Virmire Survivor needs more on-Normandy interactions with both Shep and the rest of the crew. Ash/Kaidan are back on board, and they don't have time to talk to Joker or Chakwas or anyone else?

Jack and Miranda need more content, and Jack needs a proper love scene.

Thane needs more content and a proper love scene. He doesn't even count as a romance in ME3's current form, what the heck is up with that?

Jacob needs a complete overhaul. The way Jacob was handled is downright inexcusable. It's always amusing to hear people who didn't romance him say "oh, that's cool it's just like real life." What-the-F-ever, holmes. If BioWare had made Tali or Garrus or whoever cheat on Shepard, there would be riots in the street. There is no reason to subject any LI's to that kind of crappy treatment.

FemShep needs more ME3 options. Didn't romance Garrus in ME2? Get heartbroken by Jacob? Well guess what, your options are: Kaidan, and three chicks. Enjoy. Yeah, OK... how about Vega? They already flirt with each other.


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#173
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Honestly, they let my Shepard make out with his hairless inked up girlfriend some more and I would give them all the money. I wouldn't even say pip about the endings. I can live with them just fine if we get a bit more content related to the ME2 squadmates/love interests.

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With the ending as is, this would be a waste of resources that could be better spent fixing the ending.

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As it is, I can't even get to the ending before I just want to :( at the entire game