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Shock n Awe

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 I know it's been said, but I have to reiterate this.  With a scope and an extended barrel/armor piercing, it's a sniper rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol at the same time.  In Silver I can run around like I'm playing bronze; I haven't tried it on Gold yet but once I reach level 17-18 again I'm going to give it a go.

It just annihilates everything.  Close range, long range, armored, shielded, barriers, whatever, it destroys them (at least on silver).  The scope makes the grouping so close that you can take out enemies across the map in less than a clip, the reload time is short, it's just great.  If it performs anything similar on Gold (right now it seems like a slightly less powerful Black Widow), I'm looking forward to it.

I didn't like it much before the buff, but the Talon is now the gun it deserves to be.  I am now glad rather than disappointed that I received three of them in two days from Specter Packs.

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 20 avril 2012 - 02:06 .


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hihey54

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Not on gold

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Shock n Awe

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hihey54 wrote...

Not on gold


Aww, that's disappointing.  Well, at least when I have to get from 1-17, I can still have fun treating Silver like Bronze.

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 20 avril 2012 - 02:15 .


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Phydeaux314

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The Talon is definitely interesting, especially since they dropped the weight enough for tech/biotic users to realistically field it.

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TheWarofArt

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I have a LOT of fun with it with my batarian sentinel. Reasonable CD on Net + Beatdown = win.

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xJNPSx THE WAGN

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The talon got a buff? When did that happen and what did it change?

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Drummernate

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Meh...

It is okay I guess.

It takes 3 body shots to kill a pyro on Silver with pierce mod and barrel mod. Not that good in my opinion.

I hate scopes so I wouldn't know, but I suppose I will try it out.

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The New and Improved Paladin is what the OP is looking for.

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xJNPSx THE WAGN wrote...

The talon got a buff? When did that happen and what did it change?


Multiplayer balance changes are always listed on one of the stickies at the top of this subforum.  Changes come out every Tuesday.  The changes this week for the Talon were as follows:  

Talon Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [86.5-108.1] to [93.7-117.1]
- Encumbrance decreased from [1.5-0.9] to [1.25-0.7]
- Spare Ammo increased from [24-34] to [24-36] 

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xJNPSx THE WAGN wrote...

The talon got a buff? When did that happen and what did it change?


Its cleverly hidden in the topic called "Multiplayer balance changes" thats stickied like three from the top.

http://social.biowar...3/index/9544143

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A Wild Snorlax

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Would like a taste of what the OP is smoking

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Drummernate

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astheoceansblue wrote...

The New and Improved Paladin is what the OP is looking for.


I actually found this to be a major nerf.

I got more sustained DPS with the 4 round clip than the 3 round with slightly increased damage.

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It's pretty effective with a scope, since the scope affects the grouping. I've moved away from the scope with my AV as in Reactor I've found it's not enough to hammer spawns at range. At close range, it's a beast on silver-.

Still need something for long range though.

Also, on silver-, headshots with scope at medium range are trivial. Combine that with shield gate shotgun by-pass? Uh RAH!

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Shock n Awe

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astheoceansblue wrote...

The New and Improved Paladin is what the OP is looking for.


Have the Paladin IV.  Talon III is more fun.

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Would like a taste of what the OP is smoking

 
What I'm smoking is all these enemies that get anywhere I can see them.  Topping every silver game from level 1-15 by over 20k points.  I know it's still supposed to suck in gold, but with it doing so much damage in Silver, I still have to try it once in Gold.


dumael wrote...

It's pretty effective with a scope, since the scope affects the grouping. I've moved away from the scope with my AV as in Reactor I've found it's not enough to hammer spawns at range. At close range, it's a beast on silver-. 

Still need something for long range though.

Also, on silver-, headshots with scope at medium range are trivial. Combine that with shield gate shotgun by-pass? Uh RAH!

 
Reactor is one of the few it doesn't work well at long range on.  With the scope and use of cover (further tighter grouping) on Giant I can about three shot Marauders from near-across the map though.


Also, use it with an Infiltrator and his tactical cloak.  Boosts damage even more heh.

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 20 avril 2012 - 02:37 .


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Yeah I'm liking it now, I got it out of my first spectre pack ever and it's sort of been collecting dust ever since. I think it could grow on me though, never really given it a chance until now. Went into a match with my CQC infiltrator with it and it wasn't too bad.

I'll have to give it a try on some other kits.

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So sick of measuring every gun's performance based on the "Sucks on Gold" scale.

80% of the guns suck on gold! Should the whole game only consist of

Carnifex
Paladin
Phalanx
Widow
Black Widow
Valiant
Javelin
Geth Plasma Shotgun
Claymore

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i have used the talon v on my justicar, batarian soldier, and drell vanguard, pre and post-buff. i think it shines most on gold on a batarian soldier with the melee stunner and damage barrel.

i think it's a decent gun, but still not good enough to warrant how hard it is to get it leveled. it's more of a novelty weapon than a mainstay, in my opinion.

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thats pretty much it yes, blame bioware for lowsy balancing ,not the gamers.

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I prefer the geth plasma shotgun, that just outclasses everything

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Shock n Awe wrote...

  In Silver I can run around like I'm playing bronze;



Same with my Revenant X + Armor Piercing mod. No enemy is safe!:D

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Shock n Awe

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The guy who said it's bad on Gold lied. It can still 2 shot a trooper from across the map (Scope + Extended Barrel), sometimes 1 shot depending on the grouping of the shot, and Cloak -> Energy Drain -> Cover Shot = Dead Centurion/Nemesis. It still does very good damage to atlases.

The innate armor piercing also helps - every pellet will pierce a guardian's shield. I am actually QUITE impressed with how it does on Gold.

Firing it while in cover with a scope is VERY lethal, as it remains very damaging to a nice range.

Even without energy drain, just using it with a Scope, Extended Barrel, in cover, and Tactical Cloak makes it very deadly.  It can puncture thicker cover than my Black Widow can (both without piercing mods).

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 20 avril 2012 - 03:13 .


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I use it on gold, and it is a fun gun to run around with. Then again, I use just about any gun on gold, especially when experimenting with loadouts.

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Shock n Awe wrote...

The guy who said it's bad on Gold lied. It can still 2 shot a trooper from across the map (Scope + Extended Barrel), sometimes 1 shot depending on the grouping of the shot, and Cloak -> Energy Drain -> Cover Shot = Dead Centurion/Nemesis. It still does very good damage to atlases.

The innate armor piercing also helps - every pellet will pierce a guardian's shield. I am actually QUITE impressed with how it does on Gold.

Firing it while in cover with a scope is VERY lethal, as it remains very damaging to a nice range.


Lolwut?

Talon has no piercing.

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Drummernate wrote...

Shock n Awe wrote...

The guy who said it's bad on Gold lied. It can still 2 shot a trooper from across the map (Scope + Extended Barrel), sometimes 1 shot depending on the grouping of the shot, and Cloak -> Energy Drain -> Cover Shot = Dead Centurion/Nemesis. It still does very good damage to atlases.

The innate armor piercing also helps - every pellet will pierce a guardian's shield. I am actually QUITE impressed with how it does on Gold.

Firing it while in cover with a scope is VERY lethal, as it remains very damaging to a nice range.


Lolwut?

Talon has no piercing.


Lolwut I thought the same thing.  Here I am using it with an extended barrel and scope - NO ARMOR PIERCING - and shooting through guardian's shields (body shots) and cover THICKER than my black widow (without a piercing mod) can shoot through.

This is WITHOUT the pistol piercing mod.  TALON HAS PIERCING.

It is acting God-like now.  On gold.  On Salarian Infiltrator.  The Talon is officially permanent beast unless it gets nerfed, which it doesn't deserve.  It is now worthy of Ultra-rare status.

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 20 avril 2012 - 03:16 .


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i like to use a clip mod. gives you seven shots before you reload.

not entirely necessary, but it's fun.