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[AJRimmsey]

public involvement has never worked.

in the UK we did it for the millenium,and ended up paying millions and millions for attractions that lasted a day and weresold for pennies and nobody was happy with.

we also did it for the diana memorial,which ended up with a memorial that looked like a race track,and was turned off as people were being injured by it.

i blame bioware for this whole debacle,for totally over estimating peoples idea of "being involved"

when a company just makes a game and doesnt involve the fans,this sort of debacle doesnt happen.

[daecath]

jacobdg wrote...

They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for.

The entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"

I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?

Uh, no, a few people said they wanted closure. Most recognized that the plotholes come from the fact that the ending is fundamentally broken. The catalyst IS a plothole. The concept of organics vs. synthetics IS a plothole. You cannot fix the plotholes in the ending without getting rid of them, or drastically altering them, which would completely go against their "artistic vision". Therefore, their plan to expand is not going to fix it. In fact, it will probably make it worse, by introducing more plot holes and more space magic to try and explain the plot holes and space magic we already have.

BioWare isn't "trying", they've had their arm twisted to the breaking point, so they're doing the least amount possible to try and appear to be doing something. They aren't listening, they're hearing what they want to hear. And if we don't speak up now, if we don't put the pressure on, then when the DLC comes out, and the ending is still broken, they get to say "What more do you want? You wanted closure, we gave you closure. You wanted clarity, we gave you clarity. And we did it for free. There's just no pleasing you, so we're moving on." They lose because they've alienated a large portion of their fans. We lose because we are stuck with a bad ending that isn't worthy of the game. And the game loses because instead of being something great, it will go down in history as one of the worst endings in any form of media.

[jacobdg]

Washell wrote...

To make sure they don't get complacent and mess it up a second time?

You're encouraging them by complaining more? All your gonna do is bring them down and they'll make the EC crappy.

[Iconoclaste]

Because it's fun to see the MP threads get lost in the mass.

[AJRimmsey]

jacobdg wrote...

Washell wrote...

To make sure they don't get complacent and mess it up a second time?

You're encouraging them by complaining more? All your gonna do is bring them down and they'll make the EC crappy.

what they should do is just shred it all and give up.

and on the next game simply do not involve "fans" in any way shape of form,leaving us with two choices..buy it or dont buy it.

this solves every problem and stops the downhill slide to games taking 10 years to release in a pointless effort to pleae everyone.


oh and release an SDK so if we didnt like it,we can change it ourselves

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 20 avril 2012 - 03:48 .

[Fawx9]

AJRimmsey wrote...

jacobdg wrote...

Washell wrote...

To make sure they don't get complacent and mess it up a second time?

You're encouraging them by complaining more? All your gonna do is bring them down and they'll make the EC crappy.

what they should do is just shred it all and give up.

and on the next game simply do not involve "fans" in any way shape of form,leaving us with two choices..buy it or dont buy it.

this solves every problem and stops the downhill slide to games taking 10 years to release in a pointless effort to pleae everyone.


oh and release an SDK so if we didnt like it,we can change it ourselves

Yes cause what gamers really want is games rushed out the door in under 2 years rather than taking 3-4 and getting it right.

I mean no company has ever taken their time with games and captured giant market shares because of their quality.

Yep I'm sure the warcraft, starcraft and diablo series don't exist at all.

Modifié par Fawx9, 20 avril 2012 - 03:51 .

[GigaTheToast]

It hasn't been fixed yet, so why stop?

[animadpig]

Because it is my artistic integrity. And, I am proud of it.

[Commander Shepard the Grey Warden]

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

[HenchxNarf]

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

[thunderhawk862002]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

[AJRimmsey]

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

go to youtube

type "fails" into the bar

this is what bioware missed,that some of those numptys make darwin spin so fast in his grave you could use his corpse as a demonstration for perpetual motion.

this is what happens when you give some too much leeway

[AJRimmsey]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Miranda`s arse 

[HenchxNarf]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Technically you can't talk about the ending lol but people have been doing it anyway.

[thunderhawk862002]

AJRimmsey wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Miranda`s arse 

Although you could only talk about her ME2 arse considering any details about her ME3 arse would be spoilers.

[thunderhawk862002]

HenchxNarf wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Technically you can't talk about the ending lol but people have been doing it anyway.

Haha that's true.  I remember when people used to be a little more careful and talked in vague terms.  Now it's pretty open for the most part.  Isn't about time we get a spoilers forum for non game owners like all the other BioWare games?

[Ravian Gale]

Why complain? Because EA forced Bioware to do exactly the opposite of that they were going to do. In the end, none of our choices mattered. Its Ctrl-Alt-Delete. A crappy way to exit a program, and a story.

[AJRimmsey]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Miranda`s arse 

Although you could only talk about her ME2 arse considering any details about her ME3 arse would be spoilers.

only if she had an arse lift after ME 2,otherwise its the same round ripe plump peach of goodness

[HenchxNarf]

Ravian Gale wrote...

Why complain? Because EA forced Bioware to do exactly the opposite of that they were going to do. In the end, none of our choices mattered. Its Ctrl-Alt-Delete. A crappy way to exit a program, and a story.

Actually, they didn't force them to do anything. BW still has free reign to do what they want to do.

[thunderhawk862002]

AJRimmsey wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Miranda`s arse 

Although you could only talk about her ME2 arse considering any details about her ME3 arse would be spoilers.

only if she had an arse lift after ME 2,otherwise its the same round ripe plump peach of goodness

But you wouldn't know that if you didn't play ME3.  Just like you wouldn't know that Jacob is a total douchebag to a romanced female Shep.

[AJRimmsey]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Nope. All they want to do is whine about the endings.

There is more to the game, yes. But apparently, to some, ten minutes ruined 100 hours played through three games.

Actually, what CAN you talk about in a general dicsussion forum that allows no spoilers?

Miranda`s arse 

Although you could only talk about her ME2 arse considering any details about her ME3 arse would be spoilers.

only if she had an arse lift after ME 2,otherwise its the same round ripe plump peach of goodness

But you wouldn't know that if you didn't play ME3.  Just like you wouldn't know that Jacob is a total douchebag to a romanced female Shep.

who is jacob ?

i spent most of ME 2 trying to see mirandas arse

[Ravian Gale]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Ravian Gale wrote...

Why complain? Because EA forced Bioware to do exactly the opposite of that they were going to do. In the end, none of our choices mattered. Its Ctrl-Alt-Delete. A crappy way to exit a program, and a story.

Actually, they didn't force them to do anything. BW still has free reign to do what they want to do.

EA essentially set a date when they announced the Day 1 DLC. 

[MelancholyV]

As long as I'm a consumer and choose to spend my money on content Bioware promised, I will complain as much as I please when it ends up being a lie.

What was it, "we built this game with the fans?" Yeah...

Modifié par MelancholyV, 20 avril 2012 - 04:26 .

[AJRimmsey]

MelancholyV wrote...

As long as I'm a consumer and choose to spend my money on content Bioware promised, I will complain as much as I please when it ends up being a lie after the exchange.

What was it, "we built this game with the fans?" Yeah...

consumer 101

look before you buy

if that makes no sense,i have a shed full a shyte i wish to sell you :innocent:

[MelancholyV]

AJRimmsey wrote...

MelancholyV wrote...

As long as I'm a consumer and choose to spend my money on content Bioware promised, I will complain as much as I please when it ends up being a lie after the exchange.

What was it, "we built this game with the fans?" Yeah...

consumer 101

look before you buy

if that makes no sense,i have a shed full a shyte i wish to sell you :innocent:

So in other words, purposely look up leaked content and spoil yourself rather than getting your own opinion on the matter? At least I can research the quality of your ****-shed. With a game, I have to go on the experience from the first two as well as the reputation of the company. DA2 wasn't great, but it wasn't bad enough to tell that ME3 was going to cause a massive ****storm.