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#76
Arsenic Touch

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Dridengx wrote...

Arsenic Touch wrote...

What, who are you again? are you someone important to dictate such things? no? didn't think so. Run along.

same could be said about you.. think before you submit


How cute, the troll is trying to get big, Run along before you hurt yourself, again.
What's even more amusing is that you have me blocked, I was going go through your posts and point out how you''ve done nothing but antagonize people but you're a coward. Oh well, have fun.

Modifié par Arsenic Touch, 20 avril 2012 - 07:55 .


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AJRimmsey wrote...

not unfair.

only unfair if its the first case of a publisher over hyping a game before release.

every game in the last 5 years has progressivly hyped thier games to sell more copies early.

as consumers it our responsibillity to stop this practice by checking whats in the box BEFORE purchase.


modding new content isnt possible until we get an sdk.
also illegal if they dont consent...so if you do find a tool dont tell anyone you did it,much less put it on the net.

from experience i can promise you they`ll come a hunting you down :D


That is why I didn't buy ME3 so far ... both the issues with the game and EA Biowares response to it (not what the "promised" but how they have gone about) made it not possible to invest the money into a product with its (for me sadly) limited value (comapred to ME1 and ME2) to me.

However overall "checking before" it is still an issue, because effectively you can't do that and you rely on 3rd parties to get a consensue of "If you might like it" at best. Until you actually buy and try yourself it can be hard to judge. By that time you have already commited yourself and are "not entitled to give the game back (even if you stop playing after 3 hours), not entitled to game money back, not entitled to sell it on, not entitled to complain, etc."
Try the demo and if you don't like it you;ve been told "well it is not full game so there are bound to be issue wait till the full game is out to judge" by bioware and fans. What is a Demo supost to do then? form a customer perspective ? ah well ...

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Hey, OP! You're not helping by starting a thread telling people to stop starting threads about people starting threads about the ending!... Wait, that didn't make sense.

Ack, now I feel like a certain non-human, drinking all their sorrows away in the lounge and babbling incoherent sentences about the cruelty of fate, life, parents, emergency induction ports, and straws. Ugh, I'm going to bed.

Wake me when the EC is released, we'll see if I can dig out the 'ole ME3 from my "hazardous-materials" bucket.

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jacobdg wrote...

They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for[/u][u].

The entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"

I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?

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jacobdg wrote...

They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for[/u][u].

The
entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then
when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE
WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"

I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?


Yeah, they are giving us free combine wheels and we are still complaining. I MEAN WHO DO WE THINK WE ARE?
We are just customers who supported company for years, why should they even care. Like customers are ever right.

BTW what am i going to to with a combine wheel?

Modifié par Cyberarmy, 20 avril 2012 - 08:04 .


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Cyberarmy wrote...
BTW what am i going to to with a combine wheel?

-Collect 'em and then build your own combine harvester? 

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I think it would certainly do them some favours if they where willing to at least change the ending animations - despite the fact that story-wise the endings all have different potential, they all look the same because ~98% percent of the animations where the same across all final movies.

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jacobdg wrote...

They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for.

The entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"

I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?


Are they really trying ?

Everyones current favourite example just released a 10 GB free "upgrade". Compared to that Biowares efforts seems lacking.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 20 avril 2012 - 09:21 .


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jacobdg wrote...

They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for.

The entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"

I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?


most of us aren't complaining. We're expressing doubts as to whether they can fix the endings without removing the starchild, but most of all we're speculating on the story, as was intended. where's the problem?

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Can we all just be patient and WAIT to see what will happen instead of dismissing it before it's even out?

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Nothing.

Modifié par Clearly Balkan, 20 avril 2012 - 10:49 .


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I wont stop complaining because i am still deeply shocked that i got THAT Sh**ty ending after playing all three Games with so much love and emotional involvement. And the DLC Announcment didn´t ease my mind, but instead destroyed the hope i had, that they will rewrite this horrible ending. Thats why i cannot stop hating BW and EA for this.

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I am wiling to wait and see, but I also thinking being vocal about how displeased most of us (MOST OF US) were with the ending, just keeps them rightfully on their toes.

I do agree somewhat with the more hate driven bashing of BioWare. It doesn't really help go anywhere with this. But the more logical ones that point out plot holes, or detail more politely why they hate/dislike the ending, or offer "what if" story-lines... are something to be encouraged. Just sitting back and hoping they get it right, might work for some. But for others they do feel it is their game. Now I just said a bashing thing for EA with that...but seriously if people love your game so much they they feel its is almost a part of them, this really is quite an honor...its a sigh that you did something very right... its not something you bash your fans over the heads with.

BTW this uproar is a clear sign that you did something very wrong too.

I wish the people at BioWare the best of luck here, because if they get it right I get to be a little more at peace, maybe with this game. Plus they are people and I know they have worked hard on this series. Just fix the ending, and you're good with me. Even if it comes up short I will love you for the whole crogan story stuff, Mordin...and especially that Tali Shepard romance (beautiful & brilliant!...Give that voice actor and actress a raise)

Modifié par OlympusMons423, 20 avril 2012 - 11:33 .


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We asked for more, fish around on youtube i am sure you will find the reason there somewhere, one of the vids about it is 39 mins long. Watch that vid and then you will understand.
I know that I certainly asked for more than clarification.

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To be fair, it seems that if we stop complaining for a day threads talking about how the Retake movement is dead start popping up in a mocking tone.

It's like you all can't make up your mind if you think we should keep on keeping on or not. All in all though, I'm still in wait and see crowd.

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They want the feedback, negative and positive, as long as it's civil. They've said this. 100% blind support doesn't really help, does it?

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Because they still suck.

/thread

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Kakita Tatsumaru

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jacobdg wrote...
They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for.
The entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"
I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?

That's only part of the majority was asking for, the other most commonly asked part were:
-"happy ending but not a disney one" which might be adressed in the DLC.
-Other options of endings for the lots of Shepard out there can just totally ignore the kid's half-assed determinist speech and doesn't act by the kid's words.

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slyguy200 wrote...



We asked for more, fish around on youtube i am sure you will find the reason there somewhere, one of the vids about it is 39 mins long. Watch that vid and then you will understand.
I know that I certainly asked for more than clarification.


Thats like i feel. I want more then Clarification, because the first moment i saw the ending it was clear to me, that this was something that has been produced under time pressure. Surely this ending is not the planned ending for this Saga.
If BW says that this is exactly what they had in mind i think they clearly lie to defend their ending. Still i think that the true culprit is EA not giving them time and ressources to finish this properly. Without the ending ME 1-3 would truly have been the "Star Wars" of my generation, or at least for me.

I don´t want to know who is guilty. I don´t want to know if Walters really came up with this idea. I don´t want anybody at BW or EA fired. I want more then Clarification.

I want this mess fixed.

(But that is not going to happen. Thanks for Nothing. The next Mass effect will be bought used and for 10 Bucks. Just in Case its so "Artistic" again.)

Modifié par Cloudwulf, 20 avril 2012 - 12:58 .


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They tried to go through with it, now they put in the effort they should have put into a decent ending to begin with.

You are greatfull to be a test subject? Suit your self. We shall see how much this DLC fixes anything. Also the ending wont really change. There will be more explanation, that might eliminate plot holes, but the end will still invalidate the whole series with it's themes and values and will still be a prime example for bad writing and remembered a such in the mediums history.

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jacobdg wrote...

They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for.

The entire time we wanted closure, and the plotholes to be fixed. And then when they offer us what we wan't, at the last second you say: "NVM WE WANT A COMPLETELY NEW ENDING!"

I personally find it pathetic, but thats just my opinion. Biowares atleast TRYING, right?


Because we still have absolutely no idea what they plan to do, save for the vague details they've given which suggest that they don't plan to do much at all <_<.

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Rjames112 wrote...

I stated this in another thread: Have you considered the fact that perhaps there is no ending that Bioware or anyone else could create that would live up to the expectations you've set for your own personal ending?


So instead of an ending that is story and universe coherent, we get a whole new conflict in the last 5-10 minutes of the game that ends with a cliff hanger?  This isn't an ending, it is running out of steam.

I can't say I had an ending in mind, no wait, I almost expected BioWare to kill Shepard but again in a way that is coherent.  What I want now is an ending that does not introduce a new character and then puts the hero on a rail to 3 variations of the same non-ending.

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They're offering you DLC for FREE, to fix the endings. That's what we've all been asking for.

Well, personally, I've been calling for the resignation of David Silverman and Casey Hudson over to the deceptive advertising, so you're wrong there.

On a more serious note, the point was to have an ending that isn't completely and utterly nonsensical. It's impossible to salvage the ending without cutting Godchild, which would constitute a change. Since Bioware has stated that they won't change the ending, any extended cut DLC cannot possibly provide us with a satisfactory ending.

TL;DR: Bioware promised free DLC that addresses none of the concerns raised by the fans to shut them up (thanks to people - like the OP - who are unable to see through transparent PR BS)

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 20 avril 2012 - 01:05 .


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Atm Im equally dissapointed at the ending (fix it, do not clarify it) and the Earth mission in its entirety.

For another DLC I would like them to do something about the ending mission, to make it more like ME2's suicide mission. More immersive and exiting. The Earth mission really is the most uninteresting mission in the game and It should not be.

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Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

It's making this site really boring. There are other things about the game besides the ending. People know that right?

Win.