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[KingNewbs]

kingscawt wrote...

Just want a genuine consensus.

Perhaps you are looking in the wrong place, yes?

[CrazyRah]

Outraged? Not really. Incredibly disappointed and annoyed? Oh yes. I was rather angry at them for about 1-2 weeks and after that i mostly started quit caring. I still hate and will always hate the endings but nowdays i mostly hang around here for the awesome friends i got here and to keep an eye on Bioware and see if they do anything at all.

[kingscawt]

KingNewbs wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

Just want a genuine consensus.

Perhaps you are looking in the wrong place, yes?

Perhaps, but the posts have been a lot different than what I imagined so far. 

[kingscawt]

DrowVampyre wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

Federally wrote...

Outraged is the wrong word. I was more emotionally invested in the ME story then any other I've read/watched/played, so after the ME3 ending I was pretty down. But then that went away as any other emotion drawn out by a story would and its over. It hasn't affected the rest of my life like outrage would, I'm just not gonna buy anything else made by BioWare or published by EA. It's really that simple.

Oh and the ending was abysmal.

Well here's where my interest lies, if you're so bent up on not having anything to do with BW again, why scower the forums? 

Because we want Bioware to understand that we expect them to follow through on their promised ending content. We want to keep the pressure on them so they don't half-ass things again, so that maybe maaaaaaaybe we can salvage something from a series we loved until the last few minutes. We want them to know we're not just going to let this fade away, forgive and forget, and if they want our money in the future, they need to admit their mistake and fix it. At least, that's my reason.

Who is "we"? I'm not sure if you're just assuming and speaking for everyone else or what.

[DrowVampyre]

kingscawt wrote...

DrowVampyre wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

Federally wrote...

Outraged is the wrong word. I was more emotionally invested in the ME story then any other I've read/watched/played, so after the ME3 ending I was pretty down. But then that went away as any other emotion drawn out by a story would and its over. It hasn't affected the rest of my life like outrage would, I'm just not gonna buy anything else made by BioWare or published by EA. It's really that simple.

Oh and the ending was abysmal.

Well here's where my interest lies, if you're so bent up on not having anything to do with BW again, why scower the forums? 

Because we want Bioware to understand that we expect them to follow through on their promised ending content. We want to keep the pressure on them so they don't half-ass things again, so that maybe maaaaaaaybe we can salvage something from a series we loved until the last few minutes. We want them to know we're not just going to let this fade away, forgive and forget, and if they want our money in the future, they need to admit their mistake and fix it. At least, that's my reason.

Who is "we"? I'm not sure if you're just assuming and speaking for everyone else or what.

Umm...well, a little. I should clarify I guess - we, in this case, is myself and most of the people I've talked with much about the endings, who are probably also here on the boards but have not replied to this thread. I can't speak for them with certainty, but many have said pretty much the same thing. So...take what you will form that, but definitely me, and almost definitely the aforementioned other people.

[Apathy1989]

We over-exaggerate because we want results, and its the internet.

Doesn't mean I've lied though. I love bioware games, but if they really have lost the plot then they will lose me as a customer.

I know 5 people IRL who played ME3, their opinions vary from 'meh' to 'wtf happened'. They are pretty disenfranchised with gaming because of it.

[Darkeus]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Funny. Everyone I know hates the ending.

Same here.  I think I personally know three people who actually like the ending.  All the rest of my friends want to burn it with FIRE!

[Evil_Nerjuna]

I only vent my anger and distaste to few of my friends and family, hence you rarely see me rage if we met as strangers, by then I've vent out emotions. Besides, no matter how much I hate the ending, I prefer to keep calm about it as much as possible, since I don't really want to get into debates and arguements as an intellect while in a heated torrents of emotions. Even more so when you're studying a course that involves with game development, which requires a clear-headed thinking.

[kingscawt]

DrowVampyre wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

DrowVampyre wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

Federally wrote...

Outraged is the wrong word. I was more emotionally invested in the ME story then any other I've read/watched/played, so after the ME3 ending I was pretty down. But then that went away as any other emotion drawn out by a story would and its over. It hasn't affected the rest of my life like outrage would, I'm just not gonna buy anything else made by BioWare or published by EA. It's really that simple.

Oh and the ending was abysmal.

Well here's where my interest lies, if you're so bent up on not having anything to do with BW again, why scower the forums? 

Because we want Bioware to understand that we expect them to follow through on their promised ending content. We want to keep the pressure on them so they don't half-ass things again, so that maybe maaaaaaaybe we can salvage something from a series we loved until the last few minutes. We want them to know we're not just going to let this fade away, forgive and forget, and if they want our money in the future, they need to admit their mistake and fix it. At least, that's my reason.

Who is "we"? I'm not sure if you're just assuming and speaking for everyone else or what.

Umm...well, a little. I should clarify I guess - we, in this case, is myself and most of the people I've talked with much about the endings, who are probably also here on the boards but have not replied to this thread. I can't speak for them with certainty, but many have said pretty much the same thing. So...take what you will form that, but definitely me, and almost definitely the aforementioned other people.

Thank you for the clarifications so I can understand your viewpoint a little better, generalizations are the death of intelligent conversations. 

[TODD9999]

You seem to think the only reason someone would ask for the ending to be changed is out of frothing rage.

That is not correct. I want the ending to be changed because I know BioWare can do better, so I'm giving them a second chance. This in itself is a pretty strong declaration of how much trust and respect I have for the company, that rather than simply writing them off and telling everyone "BioWare's lost it, they're just another has-been game company, don't bother", I'm giving them an opportunity to recapture, if not the full measure, at least a decent portion of my regard.

I've seen very few people in a frothing rage on the forums. People disappointed, feeling hurt, betrayed, shocked, amazed, even a few perhaps angry, but very few ragers. Some may need a little ragesplosion to get the initial shock out of their system, but for the most part, people seem pretty collected.

[kingscawt]

There's also the opposite end of the spectrum - people who are very vocal about absolutely loving the endings and defending them tooth and nail, I often times find myself wondering if they're just saying that for the sake of being different or if they genuinely feel like it was a satisfactory conclusion because I know from experience the "I like/don't like what you hate/love neenerneenerbooboo" argument is a common one.

[lil_lene]

I for one hated the endings, not in a 'AARRRGGHHHH I HATE BIOWARE' way but in a 'Bioware usually does so much better' way. And yes I will not buy any more DLC for Mass Effect 3 until I am satisfied with the ending. Though I am in no way swearing off other Bioware products, I probably won't pre-order them again.

As for the reason I come to these forums, is to engage with fellow fans about ways that it could have been better. Or for the chance that there is news of what is to come with the EC. And yes sometimes to complain because well my partner doesn't understand why I am attached to the game, and most of my real world friends aren't gamers. (Yes this means I am old).

Oh and sometimes another person's views make you feel better because you feel the same way or they can even change your mind about something with a different perspective.

[kingscawt]

TODD9999 wrote...
You seem to think the only reason someone would ask for the ending to be changed is out of frothing rage.

Then I've misled you and I apoligize, I for example would love for some kind of explanation or even a over haul and I myself am not in a frothing rage.

I've seen very few people in a frothing rage on the forums. People disappointed, feeling hurt, betrayed, shocked, amazed, even a few perhaps angry, but very few ragers. Some may need a little ragesplosion to get the initial shock out of their system, but for the most part, people seem pretty collected.

Don't read over the forums very often, eh? 

[Evil_Nerjuna]

kingscawt wrote...

There's also the opposite end of the spectrum - people who are very vocal about absolutely loving the endings and defending them tooth and nail, I often times find myself wondering if they're just saying that for the sake of being different or if they genuinely feel like it was a satisfactory conclusion because I know from experience the "I like/don't like what you hate/love neenerneenerbooboo" argument is a common one.

Due to the nature of the internet, many people felt more free to 'express' their opinions than they would in real life. (eg: more repercusions if they lost their marbles and begain to insult verbally in real life than online.)

Hence you can see why some people act a little extreme about their opinions, on both the anti-enders and the pro-enders.

[kingscawt]

Evil_Nerjuna wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

There's also the opposite end of the spectrum - people who are very vocal about absolutely loving the endings and defending them tooth and nail, I often times find myself wondering if they're just saying that for the sake of being different or if they genuinely feel like it was a satisfactory conclusion because I know from experience the "I like/don't like what you hate/love neenerneenerbooboo" argument is a common one.

Due to the nature of the internet, many people felt more free to 'express' their opinions than they would in real life. (eg: more repercusions if they lost their marbles and begain to insult verbally in real life than online.)

Hence you can see why some people act a little extreme about their opinions, on both the anti-enders and the pro-enders.

Well said Nerjuna. I agree completely. I just find myself flustered with negativity at times while reading over these forums in particular, being a generally positive person and loving this game/triolgy as much as I do and such. I don't know what I expected when writing this post, probably a "vent" of my own, but I'm pleased with the civil and generally collected thoughts so far. 

Modifié par kingscawt, 20 avril 2012 - 07:14 .

[Slayer299]

I don't hate the endings with a burning rage, I despise them, the idiotic logic and nonsense we are forced to endure and my friend who defeated ME3 last week asked me right after 'if the Bioware writers were all on drugs or if they had just gone prematurely stupid."

[Slayer299]

double post.

Modifié par Slayer299, 20 avril 2012 - 07:14 .

[mrbthq]

kingscawt wrote...

There's also the opposite end of the spectrum - people who are very vocal about absolutely loving the endings and defending them tooth and nail, I often times find myself wondering if they're just saying that for the sake of being different or if they genuinely feel like it was a satisfactory conclusion because I know from experience the "I like/don't like what you hate/love neenerneenerbooboo" argument is a common one.

Probably for the sake of being different, but I sometimes wonder if those people that say they loved the endings have ever played the first 2 games or they just started on me3 and wouldn't really know all the plot\\plot holes.

[Lancane]

Almost everyone I know is outraged by the endings and is fed up with BioWare, so....

[TODD9999]

My apologies, but you did say "I was never in a massive blood rage to a point where I would have demanded the company change thier ending until I'm pleased with it.". I felt like that statement made it pretty clear your opinion of the emotional state of those who would like to see the ending changed.

What, exactly, is your question, then? Are people as angry as their posts lead you to believe? Personally, as I stated previously, I find most posts to be quite controlled. Passionate, yes, bitter and vitriolic at times, but not just ranting and "blood raging" on the forums.

And for the record, I've been a very frequent visitor to these forums ever since I beat ME3, alt-tabbed out of the credits (with due apologies to Faunts) and rushed to the forums to figure out what I did wrong to see that awful finale. I won't claim to know the innermost thoughts of every poster, but I've seen enough to feel like I have a reasonable grasp of the overall tone of the forum, and I disagree with your assessment. Perhaps we are looking at different threads, but even if we have zero overlap, that in itself is an indicator that at least a goodly portion of the community is the way I see it, even if another portion is the way you seem to see it.

[bahamutomega]

magnetite wrote...

That guy who went to the FTC took matters into his own hands. I'd say he was pretty outraged.

there are other words that could be used...  selfish comes to mind.  if i were his lawyer, i'd be thinking "sucker"

[mrbthq]

magnetite wrote...

That guy who went to the FTC took matters into his own hands. I'd say he was pretty outraged.

Even the better business bureau said bioware misled consumers.

[kingscawt]

Slayer299 wrote...

I don't hate the endings with a burning rage, I despise them, the idiotic logic and nonsense we are forced to endure and my friend who defeated ME3 last week asked me right after 'if the Bioware writers were all on drugs or if they had just gone prematurely stupid."

Well, nonsensical situations shouldn't really be that surprising in a fantasy enviroment. As far as "idiotic logic" goes I can't really toss my hat into that ring, sure there's a lot of good ole fashioned BS going on when one first encounters the last thirtyish minutes of the game but in reality there were, despite our naysayings, the way the writers wanting things to be and I'm sure the endings make perfect sense and are logical to them. I'm just hoping I'm missing something as far as underlaying meanings, being a big Silent Hill fan I've relished the hope for hidden meanings or perhaps some kind of symbolisim I missed that would open my eyes to the writers visions and intentions.

[mrbthq]

kingscawt wrote...

Evil_Nerjuna wrote...

kingscawt wrote...

There's also the opposite end of the spectrum - people who are very vocal about absolutely loving the endings and defending them tooth and nail, I often times find myself wondering if they're just saying that for the sake of being different or if they genuinely feel like it was a satisfactory conclusion because I know from experience the "I like/don't like what you hate/love neenerneenerbooboo" argument is a common one.

Due to the nature of the internet, many people felt more free to 'express' their opinions than they would in real life. (eg: more repercusions if they lost their marbles and begain to insult verbally in real life than online.)

Hence you can see why some people act a little extreme about their opinions, on both the anti-enders and the pro-enders.

Well said Nerjuna. I agree completely. I just find myself flustered with negativity at times while reading over these forums in particular, being a generally positive person and loving this game/triolgy as much as I do and such. I don't know what I expected when writing this post, probably a "vent" of my own, but I'm pleased with the civil and generally collected thoughts so far. 

If there wasn't any negativity we wouldn't be getting an extended cut.