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[lofte_2000]

shodiswe wrote...

From an inteview that a fan did with Weekes they put people in sheters where most of them has a chance to survive... It was on this forum 2 weeks ago I think.

But really the game tells us nothing about it, it's just one more of those things that lack closure.

Given the huge amount of cliffhangers presented at the ending im guessing this is the cliffhanger for ME4 or it's equivalent where we finaly get some answers as to what really hapend to all the people around the galaxy...

That's the point, the game gave us no closure whatsoever and just threw up more questions.  We don't know any of this because it wasn't shown in any way, shape or form and we're left to assume and speculate...I really don't think that's appropriate for the ending of such a huge story - the story of Shepard. 

[The Angry One]

anorling wrote...

What did Citadel Defense do?

They died...

I had a Citadel Defence Force.
They died, they died.
BioWare let me believe I could save them.
They lied, they lied.

Modifié par The Angry One, 20 avril 2012 - 11:19 .

[Utopianus]

They were herping and derping, trying to follow and tag Keepers but end up dying horribly like that silly krogan.

[WandererRTF]

Seeing how the traffic in streets of the Citadel's wards continues while you are having chat with TIM at least the traffic cops of C-Sec survived...

[The Angry One]

WandererRTF wrote...

Seeing how the traffic in streets of the Citadel's wards continues while you are having chat with TIM at least the traffic cops of C-Sec survived...

And then Shepard blew them all up.

Uplifting!

[B3ckett]

For the sanity of us all, stop digging. Everythings glued together only on space magic.

[AngryFrozenWater]

lofte_2000 wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

From an inteview that a fan did with Weekes they put people in sheters where most of them has a chance to survive... It was on this forum 2 weeks ago I think.

But really the game tells us nothing about it, it's just one more of those things that lack closure.

Given the huge amount of cliffhangers presented at the ending im guessing this is the cliffhanger for ME4 or it's equivalent where we finaly get some answers as to what really hapend to all the people around the galaxy...

That's the point, the game gave us no closure whatsoever and just threw up more questions.  We don't know any of this because it wasn't shown in any way, shape or form and we're left to assume and speculate...I really don't think that's appropriate for the ending of such a huge story - the story of Shepard. 

Agreed. If ME3 is the end of a trilogy then I want answers - not cliff hangers.

[Computron2000]

The Citadel Defense Force was very useful. It kept more people alive on the Citadel so they could be harvested into Husks and Cannibals. Basically after the Reaper attack, Harbinger's war assets terminal gained a new tab called Citadel Defense Force with the same number of war assets asyou lost.

Harbinger thanks you for your hard work.

[Ubergrog]

Hey, some may have survived in shelters.

Before they crashed to earth and reduced our planet to a lifeless husk.

[Fnork]

They were featured on the reaper version of "Will it blend"

[Velocithon]

Feels appropriate.

[Asebstos]

Bringing this up rather than start a new thread. This is the most recent one that talks about the comically ineffectual 'defense' of the Citadel.

The ease with which C-Sec/the Citadel fleet crumbles is beyond stupid. If it were that easy for the Reapers to take out, why not just go to the Citadel immediately?

Of course, the earlier Cerberus attack on the citadel made the Citadel fleet/C-Sec look like a complete joke anyway. Its mentioned all over the place in ME2 that C-Sec has been enlarged, that citadel security is being strengthened, and IIRC that the fleet defending the citadel has been built up.

If Saren's attack/the Geth invasion was an 'eye opener' then what in the world was the Cerberus attack? How could the Citadel be so outrageously complacent when they had yet to even completely repair the damage from the Geth attack?

As a NYC resident (and as a person capable of thinking critically) it's mind-boggling. Its like 9/11 repeating itself and everyone being totally surprised and unprepared the second time around.

[Ab_Normal]

B3ckett wrote...

For the sanity of us all, stop digging. Everythings glued together only on space magic.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! Clap for Tinkerbell! Clap harder! 

[The Angry One]

Asebstos wrote...

As a NYC resident (and as a person capable of thinking critically) it's mind-boggling. Its like 9/11 repeating itself and everyone being totally surprised and unprepared the second time around.

Yeah, except it happens THREE TIMES. Which is the most hilarious bit.
Even if you reason that the Citadel had become complacent, the authorities were clogged with refugees and let their guard down and there were tons and tons of sleeper agents... they have Cerberus attack mid-game.
So everybody should be on high alert. Hell, they keep saying so! You can even have Shepard recommend martial law and bolster the defence force, seeing how C-Sec is rooting out the remaining spies and everybody is ready and fully into the war..... and then it happens again.

Modifié par The Angry One, 02 mai 2012 - 07:29 .

[sparkyo42]

The more you dig the more ME3 looks like KOTOR 2, things that you work on either disappear or don't matter. TBH the comment from PAX makes me think of PR damage control "Oh they want rainbows so tell them not everyone died."

Another thought about the end scene, since the Citadel and the Reapers in orbit of Earth did every round from the fleet that missed smack into Earth. What was that quote in ME 2 about Newton?

[Seracen]

In my head-canon, I consider a higher Citadel defense rating as equal to more warning of the Reaper theft of the Citadel, hence more people would have been able to escape. Alternately, more pockets of resistance still on the Citadel and holding out by the time Priority: Earth starts up (so potential survivors or escapees. Otherwise, Aria as a whole is unimportant, since the Terminus fleets don't need her around to support Shepard).

[Seracen]

The Angry One wrote...

Asebstos wrote...

As a NYC resident (and as a person capable of thinking critically) it's mind-boggling. Its like 9/11 repeating itself and everyone being totally surprised and unprepared the second time around.

Yeah, except it happens THREE TIMES. Which is the most hilarious bit.
Even if you reason that the Citadel had become complacent, the authorities were clogged with refugees and let their guard down and there were tons and tons of sleeper agents... they have Cerberus attack mid-game.
So everybody should be on high alert. Hell, they keep saying so! You can even have Shepard recommend martial law and bolster the defence force, seeing how C-Sec is rooting out the remaining spies and everybody is ready and fully into the war..... and then it happens again.

Only thing I can think of is that BW was trying to show how futile the fight against the Reapers was, no matter how prepared we were.

If true, I find the idea detestable, as it renders the point of playing the games invalid.

[The Angry One]

Seracen wrote...

In my head-canon, I consider a higher Citadel defense rating as equal to more warning of the Reaper theft of the Citadel, hence more people would have been able to escape.

CDF strength = clairvoyance?
How are they going to evacuate with their docks clogged by refugee ships? Where to?

Alternately, more pockets of resistance still on the Citadel and holding out by the time Priority: Earth starts up (so potential survivors or escapees. Otherwise, Aria as a whole is unimportant, since the Terminus fleets don't need her around to support Shepard).

Until Shepard blows them all up.
Uplifting!

[eddieoctane]

Unless Bailey is alive somewhere on the Citadel kicking Reaper ass from the inside, then the Citadel Defense Force does absolutely nothing.  Hell, they let Cerberus on the freakign station AGAIN. At this point, you'd think there'd be a composite sketch of TIM hanging on the wall of every security checkpoint with the words "Wanted: Dead or Alive" under it.

I'd really love to see this happen in the EC.

[edisnooM]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Some people will probably troll or flame me for this, but I think that your Citadel Security assets will have some form of impact in the EC.

In the content we currently have though, they accomplish nothing.

This. I remember in the Pax panel someone asked "will our C-sec assets affect who lives or not" they said it will.

Source please? I don't remember that. The most we got was Patrick Weekes saying "you should assume everyone you met is alive!".
Because that makes sense.

Here the video
and skip to 7:18
hope it helped (=

I think Bioware mis-answered that question either intentionally or unintentionally. It sounded like the asker was inquiring about what happened when the Citadel was moved by the Reapers to Earth. But the answer they gave seems to be talking about when the Citadel blew up after the Crucible fired.

[EricHVela]

HellishFiend wrote...

Some people will probably troll or flame me for this, but I think that your Citadel Security assets will have some form of impact in the EC.

In the content we currently have though, they accomplish nothing.

I conjure: FLAMETROLL!

j/k of course

I kinda agree that they intended the various assets to have different effects in different parts of the ending, like ground forces affecting Hammer's performance, certain fleets affecting Sword and other fleets affecting Shield and still other resources affecting the Crucible itself.

Yet, that's just speculation based on what we got.

(What? That's smilie is not a flametroll? Huh. Learned something new.)

[MrRag]

It did as much as all the other war assets, nothing. But then again, choice matters.

[Asebstos]

Another thought about the end scene, since the Citadel and the Reapers in orbit of Earth did every round from the fleet that missed smack into Earth. What was that quote in ME 2 about Newton?

Yeah, it had been established that fighting a fleet that had its back to the planet you wanted to save meant that misses = planetary bombardment.

If the hijacking of the Citadel at the end is the work of Cerberus alone (as opposed to TIM + Reapers) then yeah, C-Sec is the most laughably incompetent force in the history of time.

[Yorkston9152]

To quote futurama

The only thing they did was suck and die

[Velocithon]

Nothing you do in the game matters.