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#101
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Maria Caliban wrote...

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I'm ok with that, as long as you don't miss SP stuff for not wanting to do MP.

Another reason to be part of the glorious PC master race.

I'm not sure I follow. :?

If you don't want to do MP on the PC, you can edit some game files and get high enough war assets that you don't need to do it.

with a hacked flash drive

Those will get you banned if Microsoft catches you though, right?


yes, don't know how likely it is though

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Krogangreetings wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Those will get you banned if Microsoft catches you though, right?


yes, don't know how likely it is though


Unlikely, as I just said, you aren't using hacked hardware, or directly affecting multiplayer or achievements. Those are the only things that Microsoft will come down on you for. 

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I was not aware of could and couldn't be edited without Origin handing out a banhammer or what have you. And now I know. And on that note, here's me leaving the topic.

According to BioWare, you can edit the Coalesced.bin as long as it doesn't alter the multiplayer. There were some people banned when the game first came out for SP edits but that was because BioWare's system was returning false positives.

I thought the problem was that the Coalesced.bin file doesn't differentiate between SP and MP.  For instance, say you wanted unlimited ammo or to get rid of the weight/power recharge issue in SP and you edit the file to do that.  From what I understand, that would also alter the MP game as well. 

Am I wrong about this? 

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I have no problem with multiplayer options being available for single player games, so long as the MP doesn't interfere with my SP experience.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Dhiro wrote...
I'm ok with that, as long as you don't miss SP stuff for not wanting to do MP.

Another reason to be part of the glorious PC master race.

I'm not sure I follow. :?

If you don't want to do MP on the PC, you can edit some game files and get high enough war assets that you don't need to do it.
 


Funnily enough, I actually play on PC, but missed the fact that you can do that :P

#106
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Because ME3 and a soccer game have everything to do with what will happen in the DA universe. *rolleyes*

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Kind of like that Facebook game?

That, you know, has been around for a while?


I was wondering how long it would take to get this mentioned. Glad it came up on the first page.

Kudos.

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Krogangreetings wrote...

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because it worked so well for single player Mass Effect fans <_<


Didn't Neverwinter Nights have some form of multiplayer too?

MP isn't new for BW.

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MP was available in both BG1 and BG2 as well NWN and its expansions. NWN also had DM client in which a DM (dungeon master) could guide players in their own, the DMs', created player-worlds...

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DominusVita wrote...
Baldur's Gate 2 had a multiplayer component; Blasphemy, burn it with fire. I probably won't play the MP component, but I wouldn't call it depressing. It's not like they're making the Mario Party equivalent of Dragon Age. *Hits a Number Block* You got.... Anders Antics! A 2v2 mage versus warrior battle taking place in paddleboats on rushing rapids. Press A repeatedly to gain carpal tunnel syndrome.


It may melt you brain, but there are lots of people that think BG2 is not that great of a game, and certainly gameplay-wise shouldn't be a model for anything.

And NWN was MP, and we got... whatever the hell that main campaign was. The only thing that made NWN worth it was a) the expansions; and B) the absolutely brilliant community mods.

Modifié par In Exile, 21 avril 2012 - 02:52 .


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bEVEsthda wrote...

Possibly bad news for Bioware.
And possibly bad news for EA.
I don't get it. Why don't they get their act together instead of inventing new ways to turn things into poop?


If the players complain that something is missing in the game they'll probably say that, they didn't have enough resources. :lol::lol::lol:Meh add multiplayer Bioware/Ea I don't care, I'am going to buy Koa it has like 2-3 DLC out.

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In Exile wrote...

It may melt you brain, but there are lots of people that think BG2 is not that great of a game, and certainly gameplay-wise shouldn't be a model for anything.

Thank you!  Although BG2 was good for its time, it's definitely not the "end all, be all" of CRPGs.   

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Ah yes, my favorite part is this:

Ramsdale said online universes allow the consumer to play "how he wants, when he wants and on the device he wants".

When I see one of these apps on a device I actually own (aka, not iPad...), I'll believe that. :P

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DeadPoolMK wrote...

In Exile wrote...

It may melt you brain, but there are lots of people that think BG2 is not that great of a game, and certainly gameplay-wise shouldn't be a model for anything.

Thank you!  Although BG2 was good for its time, it's definitely not the "end all, be all" of CRPGs.   




It's just a half.
The other half is Plancescape:Torment.
:lol:

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even if it's true (which is unlikely because there is no credit or source that directly says it honestly to make it concrete) who cares?

I mean, Baldurs gate had multi-player. So did Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights. No one complained about those single-player RPGs have multiplayer over LAN or anything.

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I don't really understand where this is going ,EA trying to do something wierd with the Sims right know...Like your sims going to the toilet and it spams your facebook page ...Maybe it's supposed to be " cool" .
My guess is EA trying to make profit with the way internet works now , and turn their consumers into walking advertisement + i fear dlc was just the beginning of fun.

Maybe i'm wrong , and i hope so ....
But it doesn't smell like "let's innovate to give the players a blast" more like " MOAR PROFIT".

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In Exile wrote...

It may melt you brain, but there are lots of people that think BG2 is not that great of a game, and certainly gameplay-wise shouldn't be a model for anything.

Yeah, BG was better.

And NWN was MP, and we got... whatever the hell that main campaign was. The only thing that made NWN worth it was a) the expansions; and B) the absolutely brilliant community mods.

I just want to remind people that some people really like the NWN OC.  I certainly did.

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In Exile wrote...

DominusVita wrote...
Baldur's Gate 2 had a multiplayer component; Blasphemy, burn it with fire. I probably won't play the MP component, but I wouldn't call it depressing. It's not like they're making the Mario Party equivalent of Dragon Age. *Hits a Number Block* You got.... Anders Antics! A 2v2 mage versus warrior battle taking place in paddleboats on rushing rapids. Press A repeatedly to gain carpal tunnel syndrome.

It may melt you brain, but there are lots of people that think BG2 is not that great of a game, and certainly gameplay-wise shouldn't be a model for anything.

And NWN was MP, and we got... whatever the hell that main campaign was. The only thing that made NWN worth it was a) the expansions; and B) the absolutely brilliant community mods.

I don't think any D&D based game should be the model for anything gameplay-wise (with the possible exception of D&D Heroes of Neverwinter, because that's, to my knowledge, the only 4E game to be released to this point, and it's turn-based.  Sadly, it's a Facebook game with ridiculous monetization schemes and not much in terms of story.  But gameplay-wise, it's pretty awesome.)

Anyway, I wouldn't mind a BG-like multi-player (especially if it could be used like BG's multi-player to create my own party.)  I can't imagine any other form of multi-player that would work for a DA game.  I mean, as much as I enjoy ME3's MP, something like that just plain old wouldn't work for DA...unless maybe it was kind of a mini-MMO style of coop (which I honestly can't see be very popular.)

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I am another that greatly enjoyed BW's NwN solo campaign games. I also played the multiplayer version, but always played each chapter of the solo campaign multiple times. And remember that the mp was mostly player created worlds/modules. What happened in mp had no bearing on the solo campaign.

I would be fine if they made a mp version of the DA world. However, if they pull a stunt like they did with ME3, and make aspects of the MP campaign affect the solo campaign, that will alienate me. If they hold out maps and items from the solo campaign, and put them in the multi-player version, that is also unacceptable.

The solo game player is Bioware's paycheck, and they need to treat us like a top priority. I believe the saying goes "Dance with the one that took you to the ball."

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I just want to remind people that some people really like the NWN OC.  I certainly did.


I don't mean to demean your enjoyment of it. I just thought it really was not well structured. HoTU, though? Favourite campaign of all time.

Vaeliorin wrote...
I don't think any D&D based game should
be the model for anything gameplay-wise (with the possible exception of
D&D Heroes of Neverwinter, because that's, to my knowledge, the
only 4E game to be released to this point, and it's turn-based.  Sadly,
it's a Facebook game with ridiculous monetization schemes and not much
in terms of story.  But gameplay-wise, it's pretty awesome.)


A) It's horror to hear of a facebook game; I would totally play it were it not for that.

B) Yes, I agree. So, so agree. I think D&D is just the best way to set up bad gameplay.

Vaeliorin wrote...
Anyway, I wouldn't mind a BG-like
multi-player (especially if it could be used like BG's multi-player to
create my own party.)  I can't imagine any other form of multi-player
that would work for a DA game.  I mean, as much as I enjoy ME3's MP,
something like that just plain old wouldn't work for DA...unless maybe
it was kind of a mini-MMO style of coop (which I honestly can't see be
very popular.)


Don't get me wrong, I'd actually enjoy trying to take on a DA style MP game, if only to try out my builds vs. others... but I would not be a fan of an actual MP campaign.

#121
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Maria Caliban wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Save game editing exists BTW for 360 at least.

How do you edit saved games on the 360?


Gibbed Save Game Editor works with xbox saves. just have to copy the save to the PC, edit it and put it back, via the afore-mentioned flashdrive

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Dakota Strider wrote...

I am another that greatly enjoyed BW's NwN solo campaign games. I also played the multiplayer version, but always played each chapter of the solo campaign multiple times. And remember that the mp was mostly player created worlds/modules. What happened in mp had no bearing on the solo campaign.

I would be fine if they made a mp version of the DA world. However, if they pull a stunt like they did with ME3, and make aspects of the MP campaign affect the solo campaign, that will alienate me. If they hold out maps and items from the solo campaign, and put them in the multi-player version, that is also unacceptable.

The solo game player is Bioware's paycheck, and they need to treat us like a top priority. I believe the saying goes "Dance with the one that took you to the ball."


They plainly think that MP will provide a larger paycheck. The war assets appear to be just short of getting the 'best' ending. Just need to play MP a bit to get it over the hump. But wait! The MP benefits keep downgrading over time, so you have to keep playing it!

Yeah...Posted Image 

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 Just need to play MP a bit to get it over the hump. But wait! The MP benefits keep downgrading over time, so you have to keep playing it!

Yeah...Posted Image 


Ouch, Oh - that's so low! Posted Image  - EA, EA, tsk, tsk Posted Image. I cannot imagine that this is a good idea. I cannot imagine what EA thinks about gamers, in order to figure this is a good idea.

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I won't mind this if they just ran independently from each other.

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Didn't the DA crew just recently refute any online rumors? And if online was to be implemented it would be co-op?

Just curious as I might be misinformed.