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#126
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byzantine horse wrote...

Didn't the DA crew just recently refute any online rumors? And if online was to be implemented it would be co-op?

Just curious as I might be misinformed.


so did the Mass Effect team in the early days...

I would expect something along the lines of mass effect 3 something where in multiplayer effects the single player I'm hoping that it's not the case but multiplayer will I have no doubts
it's a company wide policy from EA, there is no Bioware as such anymore they are EA they said so themselves

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MP for DA could potentially be awesome given the armor mod news they're working on. I'd love it!

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Hope they focus on single player more than multiplayer if they do this.

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As long as it's not to the detriment of the single player game then it's ok.
If the single player experience is compromised, then I'm gone...

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Dragon age origins DLC took away from DA2 development time, I'm sure multiplayer in DA3 won't take any dev time from single player right.... right? :>

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It will always take something away from single player even if it's implmenting another teams work into the whole final package

the trouble will come if they link them like Mass Effect 3

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"Ramsdale used FIFA by way of an example. "Imagine a player gets up in
the morning, plays an online match on his 360 before going to work," he
said. "On the bus, on his way to work, he practices his free kicks on
his tablet. At lunch he looks at the transfer window on his PC. On the
way home he chooses his kit on his smartphone.
"

I hate to say, "I told you so"......ack...who ami I kidding....I told you so, 3 months ago.

http://social.biowar...dex/8996121/108

I'll try again.  Imagine a scenario such as this:  EA release a NFL game
where you not only play with the current season players, but you are
able to create your own custom players, put them through training,
intoduce them into your team as rookies and eventually even put them up
for trading on an online trading system.  Each custom player you create
might cost you $1 to integrate into your team, it might cost you $5 to
trade the player.  The game also has a financial component where you
have to increase your earnings by winning games.  Trading a player
online may give you enough cash to do that stadium upgrade you wanted to
do or buy someone else's custom players that you have had your eye on.

Now,
imagine you play your online matches on your laptop or pc, trade
players on your ipad on the way to work, check the trades or organise
training and stadium upgrades on your phone app while at work, all done
on multiple platforms integrated into an Origin client and all
transactions costing just a few dollars.


Modifié par ChookAttack, 24 avril 2012 - 02:42 .


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In Exile wrote...
It may melt you brain, but there are lots of people that think BG2 is not that great of a game, and certainly gameplay-wise shouldn't be a model for anything.


This is largely a meaningless assertion as it stands.  How many is lots, are they in the tens, thousands, millions etc.  Afterall, most people in the world at large likely know nothing of either BG games.  So without any context (such as a rough number or percentage of players who have played BG 2 etc) it's really just hyperbole at the moment.

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EA is the Wal-Mart of the gaming industry. That's all you need to know.

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That article fills in more blanks in regards to stuff that fell flat with many fans over Mass Effect 3 than those dip****s probably realize.

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Yeah, no desire to see MP in anything DA related. Didn't want to see MP with ME 3, especially since it must be played to get that 'one scene' which, it seems, a lot of people consider to be the 'best' end. I stand firm that BW wasn't talking about 'that' as 'best', but I do understand where/why the disconnect happened.

So, yeah, MP(especially tied to SP) would not interest me at all. Then again, the more stuff I read from EA and what they intend to do with their held companies has me less and less interested in any of them. Not interested in being nickle and dimed for ammo, or potions, or armor, or... what's sure to come soon, pay-by-the-hour just to play the game in the first place.

I have a feeling I'll be buying a lot more indie/small dev games in future. But hey, to each his own, and all that.

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The very thought of MP in Dragon Age makes me feel ill

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aldien wrote...

EA is the Wal-Mart of the gaming industry. That's all you need to know.


Wal-Mart actually has a fairly decent set of social responsibility programs that seek to outweigh some of their negative impact.

For instance, they have safeguarded enough preserved land for natural wildlife for every acre of parking lot one of their stores takes up. And they do have one of the most impressive green policies in the retail business, which is saying something, given that they are the largest retailer world wide. Also, they have excellent community outreach programs and programs designed to involve local businesses when they move into a new area to show businesses features or services Wal-Mart simply cannot deliver on a large scale chain that the local businesses can provide to keep a loyal consumer base.

Granted, they don't have the best record on treating their employees great, but as a company, I think Wal-Mart gets the short end of the stick with their reputation of doing the right/wrong thing. They don't go out of their way to deliberately screw over their customers or milk them for money. They don't sell them rushed or incomplete products and then charge you later for them to complete or to finish, either in terms of defects or in terms of story... as can be said for video game companies like EA/Bioware.


But, this conversation may now be completely off topic. Regardless, I feel like this is an example where a game that has lots of replayability (through vartied choice and story telling, and also gameplay) will do more to prevent used game sales and pirated copies of a game than anything else like forced MP or cross-product gimmicks like iPhone apps and Facebook games.

People literally beg EA/Bioware for certain features, beg to throw their money at them, and the response is "Nah, we don't want to do that. But hey, do you want to play this character we created? We'll never reference them again outside this paid-DLC, since we don't want to waste money on content most people won't see, but go ahead and pay us money! Also - play multiplayer so we can monitor which type of character you played, how much of a percentage of the game you completed and what type of stuff you love so we can sell it to you in our next game as paid DLC."

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 26 avril 2012 - 10:10 .


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[quote]OMTING52601 wrote...

Yeah, no desire to see MP in anything DA related. Didn't want to see MP with ME 3, especially since it must be played to get that 'one scene' which, it seems, a lot of people consider to be the 'best' end. I stand firm that BW wasn't talking about 'that' as 'best', but I do understand where/why the disconnect happened.

So, yeah, MP(especially tied to SP) would not interest me at all. Then again, the more stuff I read from EA and what they intend to do with their held companies has me less and less interested in any of them. Not interested in being nickle and dimed for ammo, or potions, or armor, or... what's sure to come soon, pay-by-the-hour just to play the game in the first place.

I have a feeling I'll be buying a lot more indie/small dev games in future. But hey, to each his own, and all that. [/quote

yup my fears as well

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Chrumpek wrote...

Dragon age origins DLC took away from DA2 development time, I'm sure multiplayer in DA3 won't take any dev time from single player right.... right? :>


You are joking right? There was supposed to be 2 years of DAO dlc and we got 6 months and a message saying "DA2 is coming together better and faster than expected!"  RIP DAO, all hail DA2.

MP never takes away from the SP resources. Everyone knows this. More importantly Barney is not purple and I have a bridge to sell. Posted Image

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Krogangreetings wrote...

Sutekh wrote...

The way the article describes it, it sounds more like a cloud thing than a facebook thing. Since I don't envision myself playing DA on a smartphone or even a tablet, I probably wouldn't use it, but frankly couldn't care less that it's there. It's not as though it would defile my game just by its mere existence.


sure thing but as we've discovered in Mass Effect 3 it's impossible to get the best ending without these extras


I dont think that's true. Or is there a fourth ending?

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wxman wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

Sutekh wrote...

The way the article describes it, it sounds more like a cloud thing than a facebook thing. Since I don't envision myself playing DA on a smartphone or even a tablet, I probably wouldn't use it, but frankly couldn't care less that it's there. It's not as though it would defile my game just by its mere existence.


sure thing but as we've discovered in Mass Effect 3 it's impossible to get the best ending without these extras


I dont think that's true. Or is there a fourth ending?

there are variations of the endings (the red has 4 variants [more if you count the different squad members on the planet]) -and the one in which Shepard lives cannot be achieved through single-player alone

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aldien wrote...

EA is the Wal-Mart of the gaming industry. That's all you need to know.


more like K-Mart, Wal-Mart at least is is some what better than K-Mart well from the last time i went to ether one which was well over 8 or 9 years ago lol, Amazon ftw

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Read through the artical a few times. I didn't see anywhere that mentioned DA3 being an MMO. I think we have been told flat out that it wouldn't be one a PAX... The vids for Pax are all over youtube if you want to check it out. I'm pretty sure this is just EA saying they want you to be able to tinker with your game on your fancy laptop/iphone (whatever) then you can get excited about coming home from work and playing on the Xbox...pc... yada yada. I approve of the message!

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They have MMORPG's, First Person Shooters, and Sports games online thats nothing new they already did that.What they are trying to do is the same thing Blizzard did when people who were pirating Diablo 1 and 2 they didn't really arrest people they just bann them from playing Battle.Net,from what I remember that made a lot of people start buying the actual copy of the game.

Modifié par Lamepro, 30 avril 2012 - 04:28 .


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I'm not as upset about this as I would have been before DA2 and ME3 came out, but BioWare and I have been drifting apart lately due to their game decisions. A part of me still does want to throw up at the thought though.

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Atakuma wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

I'd advise staying calm. Bioware has done the MP in SP games before, and it didn't mess up the SP. 


Mass Effect 3.

The extra 3 seconds of a specific ending cutscene that you couldn't get without multiplayer, messed up the single player for you?

lrrose wrote...

Except that seems to be an accident caused by a math error.


I wouldn't say that it messed up the single player for me. Bioware repeatedly telling me I wouldn't miss out on single player content if I wasn't playing MP and then finding out that it's not true messed up Bioware for me. Telling them about the supposed "math error" since shortly after release and getting no reply at all except for the occasional "it works for us" messed up Bioware for me. Locking all threads related to that topic on the ME3 general discussion lately with the "reasoning" that some dev answered a fan on Twitter, saying they were "investigating" now, messed up Bioware for me.

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well multiplayer could work on dragon age you could be a mage or a templar that do battle just look at the me3 multiplayer that worked well

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Dude, I' tired of people farming fireplain turquoise with the darkspawn. People are exploiting a map and getting 70,000 gold each time. Do something about this Bioware.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they turned DA into multi-player like they've done with ME. Sorry, but you can't have the best ending because we are forcing you to do multi-player to get it.