225 réponses à ce sujet

[Vigil_N7]

xefiroEA wrote...

Well, he said Miranda deserved someone better. FemShep should have realized she did too.

Maybe Jacob wanted to get Miranda pregnant but couldn't (due to her condition), thus the whole "she needs a better man than I."

[grey_wind]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Unpopularity really doesn't excuse laziness.

But looking at the Mass Effect 2 romances it seems Bioware doesn't really care about that section of the fanbase. At least if you play femshep, since all of them but Garrus don't even count.

Well it does kind of fall into the zone of "why create content that most are not going to experience or see anyway as opposed to doing something most would care about and having better game quality".....I am having a hard time trying to come up with reasons to justify BioWare spending time and money on this when nobody like him anyway.

You mean changing about 10 lines of dialogue would have been so much effort that it wasn't worth it?
Actually, that pretty much seems to have been BioWare's mentality when making ME3. Too much effort to do anything that calls for divergence.

[kalasaurus]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

It's true.

And Brynn rubs it in your face.

It sounds like a joke, but it isn't.

There should be a conversation after that mission where Shepard and Tali talk about what a b*tch she is. It could be a great sisterly bonding moment.

Also during this conversation Shepard will be eating a big tub of ice cream.

  Something like this would have been awesome to see.

[Tony208]

He will die in the vents from now on, even on perfectionist playthroughs.

[Darth_Trethon]

Sparatus wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Well it does kind of fall into the zone of "why create content that most are not going to experience or see anyway as opposed to doing something most would care about and having better game quality".....I am having a hard time trying to come up with reasons to justify BioWare spending time and money on this when nobody like him anyway.

I guess that ending was something not many people were going to experiance either, huh?

hahahahaha.....yeah you got a point there but all in all I think things are looking up, BioWare and EA seem to finally drop their attacks on the fans while their tweets hint at heavy retconing in the announced EC which may as well turn into a whole new set of endings if that is the case....they'll likely take the route of "what we really meant was...." and then make it more of a fix and less of a suck pile. Oh and let's not forget that the two individuals responsible for destroying the ME3 ending have not been heard from since the scandal broke out which to me pretty much indicates that they are either gone or of no further importance until EA deems it the right time(PR wise and all) to let them go so hopefully they won't ruin anything else.

[liggy002]

Since Jacob cheats on you there should have been a Renegade action where you can shoot Jacob and melee Brynn. Renegade Shepard doesn't take s*** from anybody. Well, apparently he does in Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par liggy002, 20 avril 2012 - 11:38 .

[Terraforming2154]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Well it does kind of fall into the zone of "why create content that most are not going to experience or see anyway as opposed to doing something most would care about and having better game quality".....I am having a hard time trying to come up with reasons to justify BioWare spending time and money on this when nobody like him anyway.

Well that's the downside of offering choice, I suppose. I understand what you are saying, but I doubt it would have sucked up Bioware's resources to give a romanced Shepard like two throwaway lines and slightly different conversation at the Hospital.
I really don't know what they were thinking by making a romance option a skeezy cheater - did people who romanced Jacob make the "wrong" choice in ME2 and had to be punished for it? 

Modifié par Terraforming2154, 21 avril 2012 - 12:11 .

[Darth_Trethon]

grey_wind wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Unpopularity really doesn't excuse laziness.

But looking at the Mass Effect 2 romances it seems Bioware doesn't really care about that section of the fanbase. At least if you play femshep, since all of them but Garrus don't even count.

Well it does kind of fall into the zone of "why create content that most are not going to experience or see anyway as opposed to doing something most would care about and having better game quality".....I am having a hard time trying to come up with reasons to justify BioWare spending time and money on this when nobody like him anyway.

You mean changing about 10 lines of dialogue would have been so much effort that it wasn't worth it?
Actually, that pretty much seems to have been BioWare's mentality when making ME3. Too much effort to do anything that calls for divergence.

Not a fair comment.....they did A LOT of divergence around possible
survivors and outcomes depending on previous choice combinations....sure
some areas like the rachni lacked but overall they did do an amazing
job up until the ending.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 20 avril 2012 - 11:40 .

[humes spork]

Jesus, you people manage to out-creepy Kasumi in relation to Jacob and that in itself is amazing.

[Darth_Trethon]

liggy002 wrote...

Since Jacob cheats on you there should have been a Renegade action where you can shoot Jacob and melee Brynn. Renegade Shepard doesn't take s*** from anybody. Well, apparently he does in Mass Effect 3.

Indreed....headshots for both of them would do nicely.....well maybe preceded by kneecap shots for Jacob.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 20 avril 2012 - 11:44 .

[PsyrenY]

xefiroEA wrote...

Well, he said Miranda deserved someone better. FemShep should have realized she did too.

This.

liggy002 wrote...

Since Jacob cheats on you there should have been a Renegade action where you can shoot Jacob and melee Brynn. Renegade Shepard doesn't take s*** from anybody. Well, apparently he does in Mass Effect 3.

Also this.

[grey_wind]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

grey_wind wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Unpopularity really doesn't excuse laziness.

But looking at the Mass Effect 2 romances it seems Bioware doesn't really care about that section of the fanbase. At least if you play femshep, since all of them but Garrus don't even count.

Well it does kind of fall into the zone of "why create content that most are not going to experience or see anyway as opposed to doing something most would care about and having better game quality".....I am having a hard time trying to come up with reasons to justify BioWare spending time and money on this when nobody like him anyway.

You mean changing about 10 lines of dialogue would have been so much effort that it wasn't worth it?
Actually, that pretty much seems to have been BioWare's mentality when making ME3. Too much effort to do anything that calls for divergence.

Not a fair comment.....they did A LOT of divergence around possible
survivors and outcomes depending on previous choice combinations....sure
some areas like the rachni lacked but overall they did do an amazing
job up until the ending.

i disagree. Their idea of divergence was the bare minimum. Have you played a playthrough with the majority of your ME2 crew dead? It's laughable about how forced some of the plot points are and how many shortcuts they took in regards to practically every choice you made in the trilogy. The only areas any true sense of divergence comes are Rannoch and Tuchanka, and even those are undermined by the cheap substitues for original characters. There's no denying ME3 is a great game (until the endings at least), but divergent it is not, or rather, barely is.

Modifié par grey_wind, 20 avril 2012 - 11:51 .

[Coachdongwiffle]

i kind of like it. it's unique I don't like that everybody wanted all LI's to play out the same way. Sure it sucks if you romanced him but it happens. Same with Thane dieing...still not sure why they didn't let Jack join if you romanced her and left Tali with the fleet (for the record Tali was my LI but I'm just curious)

[daftPirate]

Nuchy wrote...

How could he cheat on you if you didnt romance him in ME2?

[frostajulie]

I like it its ike something that could really happen. Glad I didn't romance him but I do think its an interesting and original twist

[RShara]

grey_wind wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

grey_wind wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Unpopularity really doesn't excuse laziness.

But looking at the Mass Effect 2 romances it seems Bioware doesn't really care about that section of the fanbase. At least if you play femshep, since all of them but Garrus don't even count.

Well it does kind of fall into the zone of "why create content that most are not going to experience or see anyway as opposed to doing something most would care about and having better game quality".....I am having a hard time trying to come up with reasons to justify BioWare spending time and money on this when nobody like him anyway.

You mean changing about 10 lines of dialogue would have been so much effort that it wasn't worth it?
Actually, that pretty much seems to have been BioWare's mentality when making ME3. Too much effort to do anything that calls for divergence.

Not a fair comment.....they did A LOT of divergence around possible
survivors and outcomes depending on previous choice combinations....sure
some areas like the rachni lacked but overall they did do an amazing
job up until the ending.

i disagree. Their idea of divergence was the bare minimum. Have you played a playthrough with the majority of your ME2 crew dead? It's laughable about how forced some of the plot points are and how many shortcuts they took in regards to practically every choice you made in the trilogy. The only areas any true sense of divergence comes are Rannoch and Tuchanka, and even those are undermined by the cheap substitues for original characters. There's no denying ME3 is a great game (until the endings at least), but divergent it is not, or rather, barely is.

I agree with every word in this post.

Jacob's treatment was atrocious.  Have a dozen different lines of dialogue would have cut it, but apparently that was too much trouble.  With the lip syncing the way it is, they wouldn't even need to re-render, because Jacob and Brynn don't actually touch each other....

[RShara]

Sparatus wrote...

Coachdongwiffle wrote...

i kind of like it. it's unique I don't like that everybody wanted all LI's to play out the same way. Sure it sucks if you romanced him but it happens. Same with Thane dieing...still not sure why they didn't let Jack join if you romanced her and left Tali with the fleet (for the record Tali was my LI but I'm just curious)

Then write it better. Don't just toss in two lines of dialog acknowledging the romance.

And if it had happened to a LI that you liked?  Can you imaging the rage if it had been Tali that had dumped Shepard for Kal'Reegar?????

[humes spork]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Since Jacob cheats on you there should have been a Renegade action where you can shoot Jacob and melee Brynn. Renegade Shepard doesn't take s*** from anybody. Well, apparently he does in Mass Effect 3.

Indreed....headshots for both of them would do nicely.....well maybe preceded by kneecap shots for Jacob.

Ooh, then she pees on him to mark her territory, takes her body back to Dr. Chakwas who patches up the physical body but lobotomizes him and EDI installs a servile Jacob-VI that will never ever cheat again and love her until the end of time...

And if it had happened to a LI that you liked?  Can you imaging the rage if it had been Tali that had dumped Shepard for Kal'Reegar????? 

Given the general nature of Talimancers, given it's Kal'Reegar I can only imagine there'll be screeches for what the humans call a "finger trap".

Modifié par humes spork, 21 avril 2012 - 12:00 .

[Darth_Trethon]

humes spork wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Since Jacob cheats on you there should have been a Renegade action where you can shoot Jacob and melee Brynn. Renegade Shepard doesn't take s*** from anybody. Well, apparently he does in Mass Effect 3.

Indreed....headshots for both of them would do nicely.....well maybe preceded by kneecap shots for Jacob.

Ooh, then she pees on him to mark her territory, takes her body back to Dr. Chakwas who patches up the physical body but lobotomizes him and EDI installs a servile Jacob-VI that will never ever cheat again and love her until the end of time...

Not really no....what's done is done and cannot be undone, no reason to preserve anything....simply eliminating them should be good enough.

[RShara]

Sparatus wrote...

RShara wrote...

And if it had happened to a LI that you liked?  Can you imaging the rage if it had been Tali that had dumped Shepard for Kal'Reegar?????

I romanced Jacob.

I know, and you deserved so much better.

[mireisen]

Jacob: "I'm going to be a better dad than my father was..."

FemShep: "Uhm...after that crap I'd put you in the same pool."

(Thank goodness my canon is a Garrusmancer.)

[RedTail F22]

Anyone else pissed the one guy to cheat is the black guy? I was. It's bad enough his dad was already a sh****y person but Jacob at least made up for it in ME2. Then Bioware does this. WTF.

Guess my Shepard is the only decent black guy left in the universe during that time period.

Modifié par RedTail F22, 21 avril 2012 - 12:08 .

[humes spork]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Not really no....what's done is done and cannot be undone, no reason to preserve anything....simply eliminating them should be good enough.

"Waaaah" is not the safeword. Slap some medigel on it and quit being a wuss.

Modifié par humes spork, 21 avril 2012 - 12:06 .