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[Dendio1]

RedTail F22 wrote...

rpgfan321 wrote...


Him saying that the Normandy is Shepard's real love really hit a spot because ... it's actually kind of true.

Lol that was actually the one line I hated when I spoke to him. Imo the Normandy was Joker's real love. The Normandy crew was my Shepards real love aside from his actual LI.

I really wanted my Shepard to say something to that.

Well said.

[Zkyire]

RShara wrote...

I know more than one person who would have taken the Normandy and either joined Cerberus for real, or started up their own mercenary group to fight the Reapers. Or been dragged kicking and screaming to Earth.

As I said, some arrogant players who had hurt pride might have done that.

But Commander Shepard would not (and did not).

[Emeraldfern]

RShara wrote...

Shepard's voice in the Jacob dialogues is really cringeworthy! It's one of the big reasons I could never do his romance. But he is also characterized as a "nice guy" with good intentions, who is trying to do better than what his father did. He also tells Shepard that he loves her (d'aawwww).
But then turns around (who knows if they broke up, or if Shepard just got arrested and taken away, or what?), and hooks up with another girl, and gets her preg, within 6 months.

It's really fast moving.

And as someone who's had a fling or so....I dunno...maybe it's me but 6 months is a really short time to even get over being "friends with benefits"

it's all in perspective, really.  But a lot of people took his dilaogue as wanting to build a serious relationship, and it's really sad that it was just flipped off like that

This.

Making a girl pregnant in 6 months after your loved one is in house arrest? The one character who said "He needs to answer for what he has done" to his father has the same level of responsibility as a 15 year old kid who slept through sexual education. Seriously BW WTF? It's bad writing due to lack of resources and time. Period.

The prospect of Jacob having a kid when he is your friend is actually a great twist, but when your Shepard was the one who romanced him? Err no.

I admit that I decided to romance Jacob "for the lulz" at first, but surprisingly his personality actually grew on me and to see what happened to him in ME3 was well, yet another gut punch after seeing what happened to Thane ugh 

RedTail F22 wrote...

I understand that and I know Bioware probably didnt intend to make Jacob the cheater just because he's black. Its just that its one big coincidence that seems to pop up quite a bit in the media. So when you have that token black characters in a game(regardless of when or where that game takes place) its nice to see them not playing to some of the negative stereotypes surrounding black men today.

But I do understand where your coming from.

RedTail F22 wrote...

No doubt. I think most people here understand that anyone is capable of cheating not just blacks. Its just the fact that in America at least Black guys get unfairly stereotyped as unable to maintain one relationship without having an affair. So the fact that Bioware, out of all the characters they have created, decides to make it the one black guy that does this.... well it raises some questions. Why did it have to be the one black guy? Why not Kaiden or Miranda? (Not suggesting this for those who had those 2 as LI, no one deserves that).

Maybe that helps explain it.

And QFT.

I also felt that it was unfourtunate that he was stereotyped like that (even if it was unintentional)

[Twilight_Princess]

If that's what they truly wanted for this character and didn't just botch the romance because they couldn't be arsed to do it ( ) then where's the female equivalent of this real experience for the male players? To make things more real and REFRESHING yanno? There has to be one mass effect gal that would get cold feet or get pissed about shepard leaving them for 6 months. Come on, the lads would have loved that! Better yet, they should have had  one of the male straight romances die no matter what too! Less options are so REAL and REFRESHING and REAL!

 

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 21 avril 2012 - 01:40 .

[LastFadingSmile]

Sparatus wrote...

And Brynn rubs it in your face.

This was my favourite part of the video I watched.


Brynn: "I pursued him and he's better off with me"
Shepard: "You ****. *pause* Well I'll let you get back to work"
Brynn: "We appreciate everything you're doing for us."

....awkward. And then the followup conversation with Jacob at the hospital; it's exactly the same as the non-romanced version, but in the context of what happened, it's so friggin...mean. 

[RShara]

Kolotosa wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

And Brynn rubs it in your face.

This was my favourite part of the video I watched.


Brynn: "I pursued him and he's better off with me"
Shepard: "You ****. *pause* Well I'll let you get back to work"
Brynn: "We appreciate everything you're doing for us."

....awkward. And then the followup conversation with Jacob at the hospital; it's exactly the same as the non-romanced version, but in the context of what happened, it's so friggin...mean. 

It's horrible that I laughed there   It's just sooooo....bad!  Why?  Whywhywhywhywhy? I just don't get it.

[JerusPI]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

If that's what they truly wanted for this character and didn't just botch the romance because they couldn't be arsed to do it ( ) then where's the female equivalent of this real experience for the male players? To make things more real and REFRESHING yanno? There has to be one mass effect gal that would get cold feet or get pissed about shepard leaving them for 6 months. Come on, the lads would have loved that! Better yet, they should have had  one of the male straight romances die no matter what too! Less options are so REAL and REFRESHING and REAL!

 

Miranda is the equivalent of Thane not talking to thane keeps Gay Leng from killing Thane Not talking to Miranda {and thus warning her} makes Gay Leng Kill her. As for running out on you. Tali cheating with Garrus might be an interesting plot point

[Nauks]

I know what you mean OP.
I never ever romanced Jacob and would never dream of doing so, but he still cheated on me in ME3 wtf! >

Hehe, oh something else, to rub salt in the wounds of those 2 Jacob romancers out there, in ME2 he says that Miranda is too good for him  but of course Shepard isn't.

[RShara]

JerusPI wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

If that's what they truly wanted for this character and didn't just botch the romance because they couldn't be arsed to do it ( ) then where's the female equivalent of this real experience for the male players? To make things more real and REFRESHING yanno? There has to be one mass effect gal that would get cold feet or get pissed about shepard leaving them for 6 months. Come on, the lads would have loved that! Better yet, they should have had  one of the male straight romances die no matter what too! Less options are so REAL and REFRESHING and REAL!

 

Miranda is the equivalent of Thane not talking to thane keeps Gay Leng from killing Thane Not talking to Miranda {and thus warning her} makes Gay Leng Kill her. As for running out on you. Tali cheating with Garrus might be an interesting plot point

No, sorry.  If you don't talk to Thane, he dies off screen and his name appears on the Memorial Wall, and no one ever mentions him.

[Arrow70]

lol At least he has some character now!

[Zeus_Memnon]

Totally out of character behavior for Jacob if you spent any time at all talking to him. Crap treatment like most of the LIs from ME2. Yet the introduce totally new characters in the end of a "planned" trilogy who end up being LIs with better treatment than Jacob, Thane, and Jack. Allers...really??? we waste space on the Normandy for that character. You have to be kidding me. Who wrote the romance options for this crap? Hugh Hefner??

[Zeus_Memnon]

And there's no reason the other LIs couldn't have joined you on the Normandy. Hell, Jack is now a member of the Alliance. Miranca resigned from Cereberus at the end of ME2 if you destroyed the base, so did Jacob who was also a former Alliance officer. You can release the two engineers from Alliance custody to join you but you can't get Jacob, Miranda, or Jack back on the Normandy...wtf.

[grey_wind]

Zeus_Memnon wrote...

Totally out of character behavior for Jacob if you spent any time at all talking to him. Crap treatment like most of the LIs from ME2. Yet the introduce totally new characters in the end of a "planned" trilogy who end up being LIs with better treatment than Jacob, Thane, and Jack. Allers...really??? we waste space on the Normandy for that character. You have to be kidding me. Who wrote the romance options for this crap? Hugh Hefner??

Hey, hey. At least Hefner has taste. 

And there's no reason the other LIs couldn't have joined you on the Normandy. Hell, Jack is now a member of the Alliance. Miranca resigned from Cereberus at the end of ME2 if you destroyed the base, so did Jacob who was also a former Alliance officer. You can release the two engineers from Alliance custody to join you but you can't get Jacob, Miranda, or Jack back on the Normandy...wtf

ME3 tries its hardest to make  ME2 irrelevant. For the most part, it succeeds spectacularly. 

Modifié par grey_wind, 21 avril 2012 - 02:27 .

[hammyhamstersy]

I thought it was pretty much in character for him to cheat on Shepard. The guy has serious issues and unresolved feelings for Miranda. Even then it didn't look like they had anything special. Also seems like Miranda cared more than he did.

My femshep wouldn't touch him with a stick. He sat his ass on the ship for the rest of the game in ME2 apart from loyalty mission. Oh and he didn't even plan to have a family with Brynn. It happened by accident and now he's going to keep the baby because the world is ending and he always wanted to settle down...

Sorry if I sound bitter, I'm really not!, he is a good guy and goes through a good arc. However, I just think anyone that romances him thinking that it'll turn out well is ... well asking for it??? Has nothing to do with his race, just to do with his character.

[Zeus_Memnon]

Who said anything about his race? not me. I was talking about his character and nothing about his character said the behavior we received should have been expected. You're reading things into it that nobody stated.

[hammyhamstersy]

Zeus_Memnon wrote...

Who said anything about his race? not me. I was talking about his character and nothing about his character said the behavior we received should have been expected. You're reading things into it that nobody stated.

I wasn't responding specifically to your post...

He was fine when I talked with him as maleshep, but as femshep I discovered he has all kinds of issues.  But again like I said in my post, that's just my own PERSONAL take on his character. 

[PsyrenY]

Kolotosa wrote...
And then the followup conversation with Jacob at the hospital; it's exactly the same as the non-romanced version, but in the context of what happened, it's so friggin...mean. 

Not exactly. The "I'm happy for you, really" is the (formerly) romanced difference.

[element eater]

I was Interested in how this would work out when i played that bit if youd romanced him 

imo jacob was a total arse in me3. I mean come on liara was right next to me and he said about the comment about the normandy what dick.  

Modifié par element eater, 21 avril 2012 - 02:53 .

[LastFadingSmile]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...
And then the followup conversation with Jacob at the hospital; it's exactly the same as the non-romanced version, but in the context of what happened, it's so friggin...mean. 

Not exactly. The "I'm happy for you, really" is the (formerly) romanced difference.

Ah. Still, that hardly lessens the sting of the "Brynn wants the name the baby after you. I'm going to talk her out of it". Which is hilarious. 

[Zeus_Memnon]

Another success story for bioware with a character who single handedly saves the citadel and the council in ME Galaxy and turns into a total d****bag by ME3. Now that's what I call character development.

[PsyrenY]

Zeus_Memnon wrote...

Another success story for bioware with a character who single handedly saves the citadel and the council in ME Galaxy and turns into a total d****bag by ME3. Now that's what I call character development.

I know you're upset but those things don't necessarily relate to one another. Renegade Shepard can be a total d-bag him/herself, yet save far more lives than Jacob. Personality and job can be mutually exclusive.

[Federally]

The only black squadmate is also the only LI that cheats on Shep, BioWare is racist!

[grey_wind]

Zeus_Memnon wrote...

Another success story for bioware with a character who single handedly saves the citadel and the council in ME Galaxy and turns into a total d****bag by ME3. Now that's what I call character development.

I made a topic about what they could have done with Jacob. Hope to hear your thoughts. 

http://social.biowar.../index/11224943

[Zeus_Memnon]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Zeus_Memnon wrote...

Another success story for bioware with a character who single handedly saves the citadel and the council in ME Galaxy and turns into a total d****bag by ME3. Now that's what I call character development.

I know you're upset but those things don't necessarily relate to one another. Renegade Shepard can be a total d-bag him/herself, yet save far more lives than Jacob. Personality and job can be mutually exclusive.

Sorry if you misundertood.  I was not making any reference to whether he portrayed renegade or paragon tendencies.  I was talking about how the character was portrayed over the span of 3 games.  ME Galaxy, ME2, and finally ME3.  You get the opportunity to determine how shepherd behaves.

When do you get the opportunity to decide how Jacob behaves??

[Zeus_Memnon]

Sorry, correction...other than ME Galaxy where he is the lead character and both he and Miranda are introduced to the ME universe for the first time.