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[Quietness]

yup

[Raiil]

I've been gaming for over 2 decades and I'm familiar with how long it can take to launch a game (I have three siblings obsessed with FF stuff...). I would wait, and enjoy speculating in the forums, looking at fanart, and being glad that Thane wasn't dead atm.

[TheNexus]

This is a poor example, but keep in mind that time doesn't always correlate with quality, aka Duke Nukem.

[KingKhan03]

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

Who cares? when it came out we should shut the fk up.

[LadyWench]

To deliver everything they promised? For an ending that made me feel one hundred times what I felt in the previous games, or what I even felt in ME3 leading up to the end? To make sure there weren't bugs as silly as the face import issue?

Yes. So much yes. It would have been a difficult wait, but totally worth it. For all my monies.

[Izzamegan]

Absolutely Yes. I think the game is amazing anyway (except end!) but I'd prefer to have waited if that would have delivered an ending worthy of the series.

[Kath]

Yes, I would wait. I would hope they would give us one or two more ME2 DLC to pacify us in the meantime, but I would totally wait 4-7 years if it meant all of my choices mattered in ME3.

[TheNexus]

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

Yeah that's kind of why I made the topic.

It's so easy to see the endings and plotholes now and say "well of course I would have waited!", but I guarantee 90% of the forum topics would have been "What is taking so long?" after 2.5 years of development time.

[Meltemph]

Oh, BTW, I will pick up HL3 the nanosecond it comes out... So ya, I would definitely wait.

[KingZayd]

Meltemph wrote...

Oh, BTW, I will pick up HL3 the nanosecond it comes out... So ya, I would definitely wait.

HL3? that's never coming out

[wolfstanus]

TheNexus wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

Yeah that's kind of why I made the topic.

It's so easy to see the endings and plotholes now and say "well of course I would have waited!", but I guarantee 90% of the forum topics would have been "What is taking so long?" after 2.5 years of development time.

A fact people tend to ignore.

[Cazychel]

Yes, definitely. Waited for D3. Still waiting for Psychonauts 2. Waited for Hellgate:London (and was never as disappointed as with ME3). Waited for D2.

[milena87]

iakus wrote...

Quality is always worth waiting for.

Better a 5-6 year wait for something you're certain will be good than a two year wait wondering if it's going to be garbage or not

This.

[OldSwede]

I honestly thought that ME3 would be the middle part that ME2 was not = I was expecting the story to continue  - and before anyone jumps all over me now (I'm saying that, becuase unfortunately that seems to be "the thing" on here):

No, I do not, and will never,  follow a, to me, ridiculous Twitter or such. I am disabled and have not physically been able to go online, for a very long time, so I haven't followed -- and still can only be online on and off.


I was surprised when it came out as I went online with the Xbox and saw the Demo the day before release.

I waited several years, that felt like forever, for a (to me) great game like Skyrim, so yes I could have waited 5 years for ME3. 

Modifié par OldSwede, 21 avril 2012 - 06:14 .

[hippanda]

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

I haven't said that about Diablo 3, so I don't see why Mass Effect 3 should have been any different.

[Meltemph]

wolfstanus wrote...

TheNexus wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

Yeah that's kind of why I made the topic.

It's so easy to see the endings and plotholes now and say "well of course I would have waited!", but I guarantee 90% of the forum topics would have been "What is taking so long?" after 2.5 years of development time.

A fact people tend to ignore.

Well ya people would whine, but so what?  Peopel are still crying over the lack of HL3 info, and you know what?  Those same people are going to buy it near instantly.

[NoUserNameHere]

How balls-flateningly awesome of a 5-years-in-the-making conclusion are we talking about, here?

[Erield]

TheNexus wrote...

 Seeing as how Diablo 3 is coming out in less than a month after an 11 year wait, I thought I'd throw this out there.

One of the biggest issues I have with companies like EA in terms of how they handle gaming companies (maybe even the biggest) is their strict deadlines. ME1 comes out in 2007, ME2 in 2010, ME3 in 2012. None of the games lack for quality, but there are fairly large shortcomings in each one which may have been helped with a little more time to think.

As of late, Bioware has taken heat for both DA2 and ME3, not necessarily because they are bad games, but because there are signs of them being rushed products (among other issues, but this is the one that is important for this discussion).

 Would we really want to wait 5 years for a Mass Effect 3, though? I think it's easy to say yes in retrospect, but imagine you'd been waiting over 2 years for the game only to hear it was pushed back for another year or two at least. I think in an ideal world the game makers would control the time tables, and 5 years would definetely be worth the wait if that time was spent productively building the game. I'm sure there are people who feel differently, though, as that is a very long time to wait for the ending of a trilogy.

What do you guys think? Wait for quality or get the game out sooner to keep fan interest from waning?

They can keep pushing Diablo 3 back for another 11 years; what I've seen and heard about it does not make me want to play it.  If you'd said Star Craft....well.  That's a different story :happy:

To be honest, though, I'd rather have no ME3 than have the ending to ME3 that we currently do.  Time wouldn't have solved that problem, though, because there's every evidence suggesting that this is what Mac and Casey wanted to give us, at least in general.  You know what I mean; the Star Child, the sudden change in theme to Synthetics vs. Organics, the nonsensical logic to explain the Reaping, and the space magic endings.  I don't see those elements changing significantly even if the game was pushed back another year or two. 

If we take Bioware at their word, then they are happy and like the ending.  The sheer scope of how much is ****ed up and wrong with it is amazing, along with the controversy and interest (well, interest may be the wrong word, but I'm not sure what else to use to explain the media feeding frenzy going on on both sides) are actually excellent examples of just how skilled a writer Mac is.  You just can't **** up that big and that bad on accident except in math.

[Ticonderoga117]

Deuterium_Dawn wrote...

For the epic conclusion of what could have been one of the greatest series of all time? Absolutely.

This.

[staindgrey]

Five? No. A late 2012 or 2013 release date? Yes.

And this doesn't even have to do with the ending. I'd have waited for actual side missions on other planets instead of planet scanning, and a different hub world than JUST the Citadel. The N7 missions felt lazy, and the rest of the game just felt small in comparison to ME1 or ME2.

[TheNexus]

I guess I should talk a little bit about the realistic side of spending that long developing a game.

Look how quickly companies change over. In those 5 years the development team might have changed hands several times and caused the game to be a mishmash of different development directions.

Imagine Tuchanka being a normal mission for the first half, but then having something random like Grunt killing Wrex because the development changed hands or something and the new developer thought that was "cool" or whatever.

The one good thing about having a short timetable for the storyline, in this case, was that missions like Tuchanka and Rannoch had clear ideas which could be put down and executed without being rewritten later because they had more time and thought they could make it better (trying to fix what isn't broken).

Basically, there are downsides to more development time, and that should be taken into consideration.

[Coachdongwiffle]

I would of because well I would of had to. I mean I'm still waiting for a true Kingdom hearts 3. I wouldn't of liked it but my anticipation would of just been higher. (give us that MP as a gap between the two games) But I would of wanted it to be epic if I was waiting 5 years. there had be literally every possible choice for an ending. everything from total annihilation to virtually everybody not named Thane can survive. I would want my LI no matter who it was to rejoin my crew. No autodialogued talks and I would want a middle ground in my convo wheel. and lastly I'd want no Starkid.

[LadyWench]

wolfstanus wrote...

TheNexus wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

Yeah that's kind of why I made the topic.

It's so easy to see the endings and plotholes now and say "well of course I would have waited!", but I guarantee 90% of the forum topics would have been "What is taking so long?" after 2.5 years of development time.

A fact people tend to ignore.

Not a fact, just opinion. Sure, we want to continue our stories as soon as possible, but loyal RPG fans know that it takes time to make a game of substance. I waited patiently for ALL of NWN back in the day.

[OldSwede]

 PS: I think this is a good question. Can you make a poll? 

[Deuterium_Dawn]

wolfstanus wrote...

TheNexus wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

You guys say "yes" now
But if you had to wait 5 years. You would be saying "release it now what's with the delay"

Yeah that's kind of why I made the topic.

It's so easy to see the endings and plotholes now and say "well of course I would have waited!", but I guarantee 90% of the forum topics would have been "What is taking so long?" after 2.5 years of development time.

A fact people tend to ignore.

That's not a fact, that's an opinion. Some people would have complained, sure. But you don't have to see the trainwreck to know that one's coming if you take the damn thing around the turn too fast. People know good games take time. And prior to a series of errors beginning with DA:A and compounded with DA:II and ME3, Bioware had a pretty damn good reputation and a devoted fanbase. They've certainly got the gaming pedigree to justify the delay, and I think most of their fans would have had enough faith in them to wait.