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[Decomposey]

We see one Broodmother in the game, one that used to be a dwarf.  I find myself asking, if a little dwarf can grow into that huge tentacled monstrosity, what would a qunari Broodmother look like?

[KnightofPhoenix]

A brood queen

http://www.sc2blog.c...02/kerrigan.jpg

[Saurel]

Even though you'll find me evil or gross for saying this, Kerrigan maintains enough of her hotness to not be that frightening. Shes more akin to Witchblade than an alien appearance wise.



I found it slightly odd that the Broodmother doesn't bear much resemblance to her spawn. Unless the darkspawn have natural armor that covers their pink soft parts.

[Doc Faust]

Decomposey wrote...

We see one Broodmother in the game, one that used to be a dwarf.  I find myself asking, if a little dwarf can grow into that huge tentacled monstrosity, what would a qunari Broodmother look like?

Really. Fu*king. Large.

Recall, these things need to actually give birth to the Darkspawn they... err... spawn, so the creature's womb alone would need to be gigantic. Granted, there are fewer Ogres than most other forms of darkspawn, so it makes sense that they might not be full-sized when born, but still, they're gonna be significantly bigger coming out than a human baby would be. If they are full-sized upon exit, that would suggest the broodmother is something like three or four times larger than an Ogre is. If the Ogre broodmother gives birth in litters, like I'm assuming the Genlock/ Hurlock/ Shriker ones do, we're talking orders of magnitude larger than that So yeah. Really, really big.

I'm actually conjuring images of bilogical assembly lines rather than simple mother analogues. Maybe DA2 will have a level that takes place inside a Qunari broodmother, with the bossfight at the end being more akin to that one before the Anvil of the Void, with the spawning ghost-minions (only this time they're Ogres). Creepy as hell? Yes, but so's the whole Broodmother concept in general.

[HarlequinDream]

Doc Faust wrote...

Decomposey wrote...

We see one Broodmother in the game, one that used to be a dwarf.  I find myself asking, if a little dwarf can grow into that huge tentacled monstrosity, what would a qunari Broodmother look like?

Really. Fu*king. Large.

Recall, these things need to actually give birth to the Darkspawn they... err... spawn, so the creature's womb alone would need to be gigantic. Granted, there are fewer Ogres than most other forms of darkspawn, so it makes sense that they might not be full-sized when born, but still, they're gonna be significantly bigger coming out than a human baby would be. If they are full-sized upon exit, that would suggest the broodmother is something like three or four times larger than an Ogre is. If the Ogre broodmother gives birth in litters, like I'm assuming the Genlock/ Hurlock/ Shriker ones do, we're talking orders of magnitude larger than that So yeah. Really, really big.

I'm actually conjuring images of bilogical assembly lines rather than simple mother analogues. Maybe DA2 will have a level that takes place inside a Qunari broodmother, with the bossfight at the end being more akin to that one before the Anvil of the Void, with the spawning ghost-minions (only this time they're Ogres). Creepy as hell? Yes, but so's the whole Broodmother concept in general.

The only thing I'd point out is that, really, a broodmother wouldn't need to be that huge. Darkspawn are born from eggs. They're not mammals.

[EricHVela]

"The Ogre Broodmother, the largest of all known broodmothers, has many enormous horns protruding from her back and massively deformed head. Unlike the Genlock Broodmother, the Ogre broodmother is capable of lifting her bulk and moving, even leaping long distances. Like all broodmothers, she has bloated with stored fat for laying massive eggs containing embryonic ogres. Her arms are strong but deformed into long appendages with razor-sharp fingenails looking like talons. Her tough skin is strangely translucent as if stretched to reveal the enlarged blood vessels clearly. Her deformed jaw is protruding past what used to be her lips causing stretched and torn flesh around her face. Her enlarged teeth can be whittled and bent to grotesque configurations from ravenously devouring flesh and bone alike. The signature protruding brow of the Qunari has resulted in massive mass of fat on the forehead that is completely covering her eyes, but this does not seem to have handicapped her senses in the least. Ogre broodmothers are difficult to find as they can be nomadic. It is not uncommon for an Ogre broodmother moving her brood into the territory of another. This can cause clashes between her children and the opposing brood, though, there are no known encounters of two broodmothers engaged in direct combat. Typically the broodmother that loses too many ogres moves on as ogres take the greatest amount of time to hatch and she will not leave herself undefended despite her own capabilities. Her nomadic nature leaves her with only a few eggs in her clutch at a time, often abandoning eggs to rot without hatching or even consuming her own eggs if too many are laid. She may also consume abandoned eggs of other ogre broodmothers she may find. She can spit poisonous, virulent, sticky and flammable bile that has the ability to cause blindness, breathing difficulties, weakness, immobility and disease. To summarize, she is one bad mother."

Either that or I just made all that up.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 07 décembre 2009 - 07:47 .

[TomBrokaw]

I hope a broodmother doesn't sit next to me on an airplane.

[kevinwastaken]

ReggarBlane wrote...

"The Ogre Broodmother, the largest of all known broodmothers, has many enormous horns protruding from her back and massively deformed head. Unlike the Genlock Broodmother, the Ogre broodmother is capable of lifting her bulk and moving, even leaping long distances. Like all broodmothers, she has bloated with stored fat for laying massive eggs containing embryonic ogres. Her arms are strong but deformed into long appendages with razor-sharp fingenails looking like talons. Her tough skin is strangely translucent as if stretched to reveal the enlarged blood vessels clearly. Her deformed jaw is protruding past what used to be her lips causing stretched and torn flesh around her face. Her enlarged teeth can be whittled and bent to grotesque configurations from ravenously devouring flesh and bone alike. The signature protruding brow of the Qunari has resulted in massive mass of fat on the forehead that is completely covering her eyes, but this does not seem to have handicapped her senses in the least. Ogre broodmothers are difficult to find as they can be nomadic. It is not uncommon for an Ogre broodmother moving her brood into the territory of another. This can cause clashes between her children and the opposing brood, though, there are no known encounters of two broodmothers engaged in direct combat. Typically the broodmother that loses too many ogres moves on as ogres take the greatest amount of time to hatch and she will not leave herself undefended despite her own capabilities. Her nomadic nature leaves her with only a few eggs in her clutch at a time, often abandoning eggs to rot without hatching or even consuming her own eggs if too many are laid. She may also consume abandoned eggs of other ogre broodmothers she may find. She can spit poisonous, virulent, sticky and flammable bile that has the ability to cause blindness, breathing difficulties, weakness, immobility and disease. To summarize, she is one bad mother."

Either that or I just made all that up.

You left out the part about her sensitive, loving nature.

[Curlain]

TomBrokaw wrote...

I hope a broodmother doesn't sit next to me on an airplane.

I wouldn't worry about it, they'd take up the whole plane, so everyone else would have to wait for the next flight (and it's not like anyone would argue with her )

[XOGHunter246]

The plane wouldn't get very far with one them on it

[kevinwastaken]

I would like to gather up every Qunari female on Par Vollen and transport them to the Deep Roads. More Ogres please!

[Stuffy38]

kevinwastaken wrote...

You left out the part about her sensitive, loving nature.

And the part where they wear spectacles and have a beak for eating snails

[Korva]

If you look at the broodmother wallpaper from the CE ... is it me, or does it look like there are faces and hands visible inside that huge bloated white sack-like THING behind her tentacles? Looks damn creepy. Given the size of the "faces" compared to the broodmother, it almost does like she's indeed "gestating" multiple spawn at the same time and produces them pretty much fully-grown.

[Kerilus]

Curlain wrote...

TomBrokaw wrote...

I hope a broodmother doesn't sit next to me on an airplane.

I wouldn't worry about it, they'd take up the whole plane, so everyone else would have to wait for the next flight (and it's not like anyone would argue with her )

Or in Ferelden's sense, would have to wait for the next Blight
...I know, I know. The lack of sleep does terrible things to a mind.

And beware, for those Broodmother romancer out there. You dump her, she eats your face.
She does that when she dumps you too.

[EricHVela]

imported_beer wrote...

I have a question. Perhaps it has been discussed before, but I missed it.

So broodmothers are basically humans, elves or qunari women who have been deformed by the blight, but how do they *make* darkspawn babies? Or precisely, who is the lucky dad(s)?

"Eighth day, we hated as she was violated." Read into it what you will

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 07 décembre 2009 - 03:15 .

[Nosuchluck]

imported_beer wrote...

I have a question. Perhaps it has been discussed before, but I missed it.

So broodmothers are basically humans, elves or qunari women who have been deformed by the blight, but how do they *make* darkspawn babies? Or precisely, who is the lucky dad(s)?

I'm guessing they produce without mating.  All they probably need is to be fed a huge amount so they can keep pumping out the eggs.

I have a feeling the poem is in refrence to the body being forcefully twisted and transformerd rather than anything sexual.

Modifié par Nosuchluck, 07 décembre 2009 - 03:22 .

[Curlain]

imported_beer wrote...

ReggarBlane wrote...
"Eighth day, we hated as she was violated." Read into it what you will

Yes, but they follow that up with "in her mouth they spewed".

I mean, I don't know how it works for them, but that is kind of what humans do when they *don't* want to get pregnant, no?

Well with the body change (ie the human, elven, dwarven, quanri woman having essential become a broodmother) it's possible other things are differently propotioned or completely changed (such as reproductive organs and systems)

[Korva]

The "fathers" could be the darkspawn who "transform" the female into a broodmother, yes.

But a wild idea I've had is: have the "normal" darkspawn been confirmed as being "male"? They look like it, but then our culture has the odd tencency to think of everything and everyone as male unless it specifically isn't. Maybe broodmothers just produce infertile offspring from their own corrupted genetic material via parthenogenesis.

[Foxd1e]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

A brood queen
http://www.sc2blog.c...02/kerrigan.jpg

Everytime I see what happened to Kerrigan I shed a tear for Jim Raynor

[EricHVela]

imported_beer wrote...

ReggarBlane wrote...
"Eighth day, we hated as she was violated." Read into it what you will

Yes, but they follow that up with "in her mouth they spewed".

I mean, I don't know how it works for them, but that is kind of what humans do when they *don't* want to get pregnant, no?

The other way around. They fed her their bile and blood, then "violated" her the next day. Ninth day, she grins and devours her kin. ... as many woman would binge when they're with child or like a successful mating for a black widow spider.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 07 décembre 2009 - 03:30 .

[Nosuchluck]

I just think the idea of Darkspawn humping away at a Broodmother is far too silly for it to be in the lore. It's like the idea of an Alien queen making sweet love with little aliens to produce eggs.

[Curlain]

Nosuchluck wrote...

I just think the idea of Darkspawn humping away at a Broodmother is far too silly for it to be in the lore. It's like the idea of an Alien queen making sweet love with little aliens to produce eggs.

Hey, even an Alien queen needs some sweet love sometimes, she gets lonely on her egg-sack just like anyone else

[EricHVela]

With certain insects, a queen needs to mate just once, and then, she bloats as she begins to lay eggs. So, I would think that, after they have tainted her with their blood and bile, they indeed rape her before she transforms into the beast, but once the deed is done, it's done and no longer necessary to produce offspring.