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SirPounceAlot

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I'm going to try to make this short. (Sorry for my spelling and grammar)

I know there is probably a lot of post on this subject but as fellow Mass Effect Series fan, I would like answeres about Tali'Zora's Photo, and I would love a practicul honest answer from bioware.

As an artist I was very dissapointed at what I saw, I praised Bioware for years on your artist designs. I went to college for Animation and 3D modeling because my goal was to achevie a position at Bioware or any other gaming industry. But from what I saw from you're last game of the serious even before that on Dragon Age 2, I'm truly sorry but I wasn't impressed, what happened to you guys? What or who made you rush you're development?

It's been a month later and I still can't bring myself to play your game again, my mind wants me to but my heart says no because you really let me down.

Lets forget about the ending for a second..I don't care..fine choose 3 different choices, I don't care. What really REALLY made me so firious was Tali's photoshoped photo, I don't understand why couldn't you hire or pay someone from maybe Deviant Art to use they're art as the photo for Tali? It really couldn have been that hars right? as a fellow Tali fan that is really unacceptable.

The only way your going to get me back into the game Bioware is if you fix her photo an update or a DLC, hell I'll pay for a fix on the photo, like I said before as an artist that is just heart breaking. But until I get an answer on this if its a yes your working on it...Great I'm down to play a lot more runs..if not..then I'm sorry im going to have to unfortunally stop playing the game and buying anymore of your prodcuts

I know this may be silly for some but you need to look at it as an artist perspective and having you're heart break seen all this rushed art in the game, call me what you want..if you want to ban me bioware that's fine but I'm literally about to cry because it really hurts.

before I go here is an example of an artist of what Tali would or should of looked like..Beautiful piece of art that was just released today.

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Art is from GhostFire on DeviantArt

Modifié par SirPounceAlot, 21 avril 2012 - 07:24 .


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Wintermaulz

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'artistic integrity'

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Wintermaulz

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also great pic, am a talimancer myself

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SirPounceAlot

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Lol thanks Winter I'm a big big big Fan of Tali and her Voice actress out of all the romances for my Shepard tali and Liara seemed more genuine but I got hooked on to Tali real fast.

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I romanced Liara but I still think the photoshop was ridiculous.

There were two options, keep her face a mystery, or have an epic and emotional reveal.

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Tali photo in me3 is a disaster.
Here is another pretty amazing Tali design from deviantart:

http://browse.devian...q=tali#/d4szlc0

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KingKhan03

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I romanced Liara but Tali is one of my favorite characters The little stock photo was so lazy.

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Great pic

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SirPounceAlot

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bart86pl wrote...

Tali photo in me3 is a disaster.
Here is another pretty amazing Tali design from deviantart:

http://browse.devian...q=tali#/d4szlc0


That is one of my FAVORITE pictures Bart another Beautiful peice of Art.

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bart86pl

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She looks very alien in this pic, but I always imagine her like this :D

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VistaSoldier wrote...

I romanced Liara but I still think the photoshop was ridiculous.

There were two options, keep her face a mystery, or have an epic and emotional reveal.


I romanced Liara as well, but I'm disgusted by how Bioware treated the Talimancers.

And if they actually didn't show any intention of revealing her face, that would be fine. Except they did have a scene where they heavily suggested her face would be revealed, only to show her back when she took off the mask.

And don't get me started on the photoshop photo. It is not a thought out work, period. A lot of people on reddit, or even BSN can make a better photoshop from the stock image in 10 minutes.

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bart86pl wrote...

She looks very alien in this pic, but I always imagine her like this :D


Indeed, a very well done interpretation of a horribley executed reveal. still 100X better then the horrible photoshop we got

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I'm still very disappointed by the way they handled her highly anticipated face reveal.

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SirPounceAlot

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I have someone on Deviant Art right now..telling me that the photo in the game is art....you got to be kidding me..

Sigh...I wanna cry SOO BAD..sigh.

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Having Quarians look like blue humans with face paint is lazy on any level. The sheer lack of consideration for a topic that has been discussed since Mass Effect 1 is astounding.

This tells me that the production of Mass Effect 3 had a lot of issues. Think about what this is and what this means, for a moment. It's not just some minor throw away plot point - it's a topic that's been discussed for years, and Bioware decides to make Quarians look like an internet stock image with 5 minutes of MS Paint slapped over it.

What were they thinking?

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bart86pl

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There is way too much 'art' in ME3 to be honest...

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SirPounceAlot

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I know I'm seem very sensitive to this subject...and I know I am...but I'm very Highly into Art, grew up into it and now I'm actually doing it. I'll go where ever Art is being presented.

I wish there was a way to express more openly how I feel about this, then just typing.

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To help with the initial question.

http://www.imdb.com/...s/vi3341722393/

I think they answer your questions in this interview at pax east.

I don't agree with the answer but..........

If i remember correctly its a 50 min interview.

Modifié par nlag, 21 avril 2012 - 07:53 .


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Coming from a non-Talimancer, I hear you SirPounceAlot. I believe you guys got the shaft.

I actually liked the Tali picture, myself (No torches or pitchforks please! That was BEFORE I knew how it came to be). The N7 Hoodie was a nice touch, I thought.

In my opinion, I think it would've gone over better had they fully modeled her face/head/whatever & had the "big reveal" on Rannoch.

I really like that GhostFire image you posted, by the way. Posted Image

Modifié par Bufardo74, 21 avril 2012 - 07:54 .


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It was artistic integrity to give her a generic stock photo. and you can never, EVER compromise on artistic integrity.

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It boggles my mind how Bioware would actually do this.

If you really wanted that image why not at least change the setting and the pose while keeping that face you wanted so badly, Bioware?

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Bioware got lazy. Photoshoped photo, come on? You did better with fan fic artwork ... what the hell, why they just don't show her face in last cutscene you see her (either romance scene or her suicide after siding with Geth).

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nlag wrote...

To help with the initial question.

http://www.imdb.com/...s/vi3341722393/

I think they answer your questions in this interview at pax east.

I don't agree with the answer but..........

If i remember correctly its a 50 min interview.


I just watched the video and got to the part about Tali's face...they dragged the question it was not an aswer..they molded it from Actual people..why not Tali's voice Actress..they went through a lot source art for her face? They had a face all along.

Still not an answer....then heres my answer..I'm trading the game in and I'm completely  done with bioware..I can't stress you guys enough..its called laznies and not giving it 100% effort. That's my answer sorry Bioware.

for now on I'm going to study and research the games I'm going to buy, for now on I'm going to have to be VERY picky on what game and or Gaming company I'll be supporting, thats my answer.

Modifié par SirPounceAlot, 21 avril 2012 - 08:11 .


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SirPounceAlot wrote...

nlag wrote...

To help with the initial question.

http://www.imdb.com/...s/vi3341722393/

I think they answer your questions in this interview at pax east.

I don't agree with the answer but..........

If i remember correctly its a 50 min interview.


I just watched the video and got to the part about Tali's face...they dragged the question it was not an aswer..they molded it from Actual people..why not Tali's voice Actress..they went through a lot source art for her face? They had a face all along.

Still not an answer....then heres my answer..I'm trading the game in and I'm completely  done with bioware..I can't stress you guys enough..its called laznies and not giving it 100% effort. That's my answer sorry Bioware.

for now on I'm going to study and research the games I'm going to buy, for now on I'm going to have to be VERY picky on what game and or Gaming company I'll be supporting, thats my answer.

unfortuatly I could never willingly part with my Mass effect 1-3. the characters and connecting with them through the first two games and what little we had from the third. well I made myself a little quote to say when I start playing again.
"saying hello to some old friends for the first time again."
but I will not be buying another bioware game unless the fix this one. even then i'll be sceptical of it.

Modifié par sefudargo, 21 avril 2012 - 08:19 .


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Wintermaulz wrote...

also great pic, am a talimancer myself

Sounds like some sort of weird wizard.